VIP/Tiered Rewards to be released soon

[Dean]

I agree this would make me mad. If they do stuff I hope it is something that doesn't put others at a disadvantage or "punish" them. Discounts and AP type stuff makes sense. Or even more housekeeping, early check in late out stuff doesn't necessarily put others out of anything.

A true VIP tiered system does favor one group over another. If they do this, the internet threads should be fun.

 

[Starr W.]

A true VIP tiered system does favor one group over another. If they do this, the internet threads should be fun.

Yep, I'll try to get on this site and get the "system overloaded, try back later" message.

 

[DVC Mike]

A true VIP tiered system does favor one group over another. If they do this, the internet threads should be fun.

The discussion so far has been "fun".

 

[montrealdisneylovers]

We are new owners having recently closed on 2 BLT resale contracts just before the changes : We have been going to Disney for the past 12 years and stayed at BLT on cash reservations the past two. We are really looking forward to our next and technically first trip ``home`` this coming Christmas. We only travel to Disney once a year for about 4 days during the Christmas break. These habits may change in the future but it is what works best for us now with DD 17 and DD 15 both very busy.

I was trying to decide what would encourage me to add on more points at this time. The only thing I could think of is if Disney offered each Member staying on DVC property along with their guests 1 VIP pass per day of their stay per 100 points that they own. We currently have 260 points and would qualify for 2 VIP passes per day that we are on site. I would be very tempted to add on the additional 40 points (direct) to bring that up to 3 VIP passes per day. If the current minimum purchase to buy direct is 160 points, Disney may be able to sell 200 points much easier without officially upping the minimum.

I am aware that these additional 40 points would cost me about $160 per year in additional MF but given the time we travel it would make it worth while for us.

This way being a DVC owner has a real perk when being in the parks and those that have 1000 + points would get that many more VIP passes per day. Other guests in line will hear about this perk pretty quickly and may be the last thing they need to do that emotional purchase.

This perk would have to have to be lifetime or have some long guarantee to it though!

Just my 2 cents for what it is worth!!

 

[Sammie]

With all due respect, I'm sure at least some guides do receive some inside info. Not all guides, and not all info may pan out in the long run, but to suggest guides have zero inside scoop is wrong IMO.
Now, if it was a bus driver...

MG

Oh I agree about other things, I just do not believe that this program has developed to the point that a guide can state that a certain number of points will definitely benefit. I think it was an educated guess based on industry standard and JL's comment at the annual meeting not that the guide does not have inside info at times.

 

[disneynutz]

I still say that any VIP perks offered will only be perks that cost Disney nothing. Disney is a business who's only goal is to make money. Rule changes, banking, borrowing, holding won't cost them a thing, staffing a VIP phone line at MS with existing Senior Cast Members won't cost them a thing. Providing VIP Concierge service would cost very little. VIP Fast Passes cost nothing, and if Disney Parks agrees and if the VIP program produces X amount of additional profit, we could see VIP passes to the Parks.

I read a study that free passes are only redeemed 50 to 60% of the time. It seems that getting them is more important than using them. It's like the DDP, everyone talks about what a great deal it is but how many Guests go home with credits still in their account. Two snack credits per day per person is a lot of snacks, we were giving Disney cookies as Christmas gifts we had so many.

It's all about cost, perceived value, and making VIP's feel special compared to the next guy. That's why we are in a club and not just owners, that's why only members staying at BLT can go to the TOTWL, and that's why we like Concierge and Valet Parking.

Bill

 

[been2marceline]

With all due respect, I'm sure at least some guides do receive some inside info. Not all guides, and not all info may pan out in the long run, but to suggest guides have zero inside scoop is wrong IMO.
Now, if it was a bus driver...

MG

I agree that some of the guides do seem to get more info than others...

I found out about BLT and GCV from a guide - solid info that time for sure.

 

[disneynutz]

I agree that some of the guides do seem to get more info than others...

I found out about BLT and GCV from a guide - solid info that time for sure.

Disney is no different than any other business. Some Guides are in the know and others are a black sheep and won't know anything until the memo comes out.

Bill

 

[Dean]

The discussion so far has been "fun".

I've enjoyed it but then I tend to enjoy DVC thread's that are technical, philosophical or other timeshare related. But I don't think you've seen anything. Such a change would put the reallocation and valet parking thread's to shame.

Oh I agree about other things, I just do not believe that this program has developed to the point that a guide can state that a certain number of points will definitely benefit. I think it was an educated guess based on industry standard and JL's comment at the annual meeting not that the guide does not have inside info at times.

Unlike other timeshares sales staff, DVC guides are not particularly prone to throwing these type of rumors around. Nor is DVC management prone to involving the sales staff in such issues until they're fairly close to rolling them out. This makes me think that whatever is coming is pretty close.

I still say that any VIP perks offered will only be perks that cost Disney nothing. Disney is a business who's only goal is to make money. Rule changes, banking, borrowing, holding won't cost them a thing, staffing a VIP phone line at MS with existing Senior Cast Members won't cost them a thing. Providing VIP Concierge service would cost very little. VIP Fast Passes cost nothing, and if Disney Parks agrees and if the VIP program produces X amount of additional profit, we could see VIP passes to the Parks.

I read a study that free passes are only redeemed 50 to 60% of the time. It seems that getting them is more important than using them. It's like the DDP, everyone talks about what a great deal it is but how many Guests go home with credits still in their account. Two snack credits per day per person is a lot of snacks, we were giving Disney cookies as Christmas gifts we had so many.

It's all about cost, perceived value, and making VIP's feel special compared to the next guy. That's why we are in a club and not just owners, that's why only members staying at BLT can go to the TOTWL, and that's why we like Concierge and Valet Parking.

Bill

I disagree somewhat. If they do a rewards type program only, it is likely it'll be low cost fluff. However, if they do a true Timeshare VIP program, there will be some costs. Not it's possible that some of those costs will be passed on to other members. IMO, it's not possible to do a program that will be robust enough to get a lot of members attention to add on without having benefits of real value, those come with some cost. We'll see what happens.

 

[Sammie]

I've enjoyed it but then I tend to enjoy DVC thread's that are technical, philosophical or other timeshare related. But I don't think you've seen anything. Such a change would put the reallocation and valet parking thread's to shame.

Unlike other timeshares sales staff, DVC guides are not particularly prone to throwing these type of rumors around. Nor is DVC management prone to involving the sales staff in such issues until they're fairly close to rolling them out. This makes me think that whatever is coming is pretty close.

I disagree somewhat. If they do a rewards type program only, it is likely it'll be low cost fluff. However, if they do a true Timeshare VIP program, there will be some costs. Not it's possible that some of those costs will be passed on to other members. IMO, it's not possible to do a program that will be robust enough to get a lot of members attention to add on without having benefits of real value, those come with some cost. We'll see what happens.

You really think they would pass the cost of a VIP reward program to everyone. I hope not.

 

[Dean]

You really think they would pass the cost of a VIP reward program to everyone. I hope not.

Depends on how you look at it. At present there are some members who are subsidizing other members, the question is could they simply change the landscape. For example, there's a certain amount of built in costs to having a member and it costs more per point for smaller point owners than larger ones overall. These costs are currently passed on to other members. Most other similar systems charge a club fee, normally in the $100-150 range. Bluegreen has a base maint fee charge then X amount per point making it cheaper per point for larger point owners over smaller ones. It is my believe that IF they do a VIP program, it will be a shared expense. Some costs shared among all owners and some to DVD chalked up to marketing and sales incentives.

 

[Brian Noble]

I would suspect that most "real" costs would be shouldered by DVD. Some minor differences may crop up in day to day operations (e.g. early check in, etc.) and that would fall to DVCMC.

 

[LoveToDisney]

We would really like to see VIP fast passes. That's something we would definitely use and appreciate.

 

[laura-k]

You would be surprised what people will do for "free" and "food".

People buy items that they don't really need just to get the rewards points and they will go on a Disney vacation just to get "free" dining. They will also buy more DVC points than needed just to get the sales incentive or decide to buy now to get their name on a robe or tile.

Disney knows the psychology of people and they use it very effectively.

Bill

Oh Please -
Haven't you seen the post about the tote bag and hat incentives or the "free cruise " ect...
Call it free and see what happens -
( I got a tote bag and I guess I kinda thought it was funny when they called it free gift after that check I just wrote Hello )

 

[nunzia]

.. I never even got a tote bag....

 

[Brian Noble]

Haven't you seen the post about the tote bag and hat incentives or the "free cruise " ect...

Some people do see through the word "free". But, many do not. Every year, we see people falling head over heels for "FREE DINING", even when the room-only discount plus paying for a dining plan would actually be less expensive for some folks.

 

[JimMIA]

Some people do see through the word "free". But, many do not. Every year, we see people falling head over heels for "FREE DINING", even when the room-only discount plus paying for a dining plan would actually be less expensive for some folks.

Yeah Brian, but you just don't get it. FREE Dining is FREE!

I personally don't see why DVC owners don't get FREE dining with every stay.

 

[Geezer]

Nothing at Disney is free! Even free dining. Doesn't take much to understand that.

 

[Greysword]

Yeah Brian, but you just don't get it. FREE Dining is FREE!

I personally don't see why DVC owners don't get FREE dining with every stay.

Free dining for DVC might be considered a full stocked refrigerator

 

[JWG]

Free dining for DVC might be considered a full stocked refrigerator

Hey, DVC provides all the water you can drink from multiple tap sources for convenience. At least 2 in every studio and up to 6 in a 2 BR depending on location.