VERY RUDE owner

[ukwhowner]

Why do we have to move on from this issue - surely this a forum where people can air their opinions - even after the event.

Glad you agree with our ethos sandy ridge dave - we as home owners are just trying to achieve a fair price for our investment and not be insulted by "low-ball" price wars.

 

[irishgreek]

robin - I think your reply today was quite fair and honest and now we've all cooled down it's easier to see all sides.

As a vacation home owner I know home owners can sometimes get depressed with never ending taxes, maintenance costs, management fees etc and may snap occasionally when they see prices getting lower and lower.especially with property values crashing.
Homeowners especially get annoyed when they see their neighbours undercutting prices (as you point out has happened at Windsor Hills) to a level that we know makes no sense and can result in poor upkeep of the property.

But, as a travel agent I also know that one has to get the best deal for clients.

And,sometimes, there are such clashes.

I suppose, as an old man with a more traditional approach, I was taken aback by your somewhat colourful style of writing. I should not have been.

i wish you well in your travel agency endeavours as I do my fellow Windsor Hills home owner.

 

[rosiep]

Robin

Thank you for your honesty regarding your e-mail to me confirming that I had been telling the truth about your response to me and for your apology. I also apologise if I offended you and if you felt that I was rude, it was not my intention.

Let's put it behind us and move on.

I'm glad to see something like this worked out on our little boards. Both persons stated their cases, were honest about their words and I hope both now feel better about it all.

 

[BonnieA]

we as home owners are just trying to achieve a fair price for our investment and not be insulted by "low-ball" price wars.

Maybe homeowners should write in their descriptions that they do not accept lower offers. That way those of us who do like to make offers will know to avoid you. I don't intentionally want to insult you but I don't know who "you" are. And there are many owners who will consider a lower offer.
If my inquiry goes out to many owners at a time (as thru windsorhillsrent) I don't intend to insult you, why be so rude in your reply?

 

[Lakey]

Ok folks...

Just a reminder, there are rules for posting here, everyone has to play nice.
You can read those rules up under the FAQ portion of your header.

If you see a post that is questionable, please send me a pm, or use the "Report this post to a Moderator" button on the lower left of your display screen.

Homeowners are always welcome to participate here, but no direct links to your homes, no "I sent you a pm" type responses.
You can provide links to your home's community, or general rental sites.

OP and the homeowner have resolved this - let's move on.

Have a Disney kind of Day, all!

Sorry but how is posting an email from someone with half the email address in it 'playing nice' exactly? Especially when you've sent an incredibly rude, derogatory and insulting reply to that person, to further add insult to injury? Everyone else then 'assumes' (incorrectly as it happens) the recipient has made it up so they're all virtually calling that person a liar? This is 'playing nice' is it? Strangest sort of 'playing nice' I ever heard of!

By the way 'bugger' means a lot worse than 'My apologies if 'bugger off' means anything more than 'take a flying leap off a tall bridge' - perhaps it would be better not to use words for which the user doesn't understand the meaning? Look it up in an online dictionary (she obviously doesn't have one at home) and you'll find it means sodomise or, for the Americans, sodomize. A charming word to use!

Personally, I think the so-called travel agent who's shopping for herself (apparently) called 'TravelinGal' should be removed from the forum for unacceptable behaviour, using inappropriate language on a public forum and definitely not 'playing nice'....

 

[TravelinGal]

Sorry but how is posting an email from someone with half the email address in it 'playing nice' exactly? Especially when you've sent an incredibly rude, derogatory and insulting reply to that person, to further add insult to injury? Everyone else then 'assumes' (incorrectly as it happens) the recipient has made it up so they're all virtually calling that person a liar? This is 'playing nice' is it? Strangest sort of 'playing nice' I ever heard of!

By the way 'bugger' means a lot worse than 'My apologies if 'bugger off' means anything more than 'take a flying leap off a tall bridge' - perhaps it would be better not to use words for which the user doesn't understand the meaning? Look it up in an online dictionary (she obviously doesn't have one at home) and you'll find it means sodomise or, for the Americans, sodomize. A charming word to use!

Personally, I think the so-called travel agent who's shopping for herself (apparently) called 'TravelinGal' should be removed from the forum for unacceptable behaviour, using inappropriate language on a public forum and definitely not 'playing nice'....

Hmmm...where to start.
Offended I displayed the first part of the e-mail address? I'll gladly share the first part of my e-mail address as well, if you think that will make a difference. I deleted that because it is against board policy as it can be considered a solicitation for business. Having been mentioned by others, I now have the right to defend my position.

OK - now for " Everyone else then 'assumes' (incorrectly as it happens) the recipient has made it up so they're all virtually calling that person a liar?"
Apparently, you didn't read my post where I did say what he said I said was correct. Oh wait, you did - because you quoted from that exact post. So you know full good and well that I took responsibility for my words - AND that I apologized for responding so sharply to the original e-mail I received.

Regarding the words - Fine - I WILL use an online dictionary -

From Wikipedia:

Today, the term is a general-purpose expletive, used to imply dissatisfaction (bugger, I've missed the bus [i.e. Darn it, I've missed the bus!], or used to describe someone whose behaviour is in some way displeasing (the bugger's given me the wrong change).

As with most other expletives its continued use has reduced its shock value and offensiveness, to the extent the Toyota car company in Australia and New Zealand ran a popular series of advertisements where "Bugger!" was the only spoken word. The term is generally not used in the United States, but it is recognised, although inoffensive there.

It may have more extreme roots, but my intent was not to be profane.

As far as my 'removal from the boards' - a moderator has been involved with this discussion from the start (post #3 - mbb) and if there were a problem with what I posted, I'm sure I would have been dealt with in a manner fitting of the rules of the board.


I honestly have to question the number of first time DISboard posters we've had here on this one subject. (other than Toby, who I don't blame for chiming in) This reeks of TROLL. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure seems that way to me. Would be interesting to see if all the new members posting on this one thread had the same ISP. But that is not mine to know - nor do I actually want to know.


These boards are a wonderful source for people to share both good and bad experiences - with anything related to Disney. Be it a rental car company, a Disney owned hotel, off site hotel, private house or town home etc. To forbid people to post the negative would violate the rights to freedom of speech/expression.

 

[Blondiex46]

Actually I love that you posted everything here. We are consumers and as such we need to have as much information possible where are a capable of making a decision on anyting based on as much information as possible. As consumers we have the right to ask as many questions as we need to ask to get the best possible deal for our money, which is hard earned. As a business person which is what the homeowner is they should have everything written specificially the way it is. If something is not written then the only way to find out is to ask. I believe that that question was that just a question, but I do think that the answer was rude. I really don't care how much anybody has paid for anything, how much the fees are or whatever. I am renting a home in 2 weeks and if I would have gotten an e-mail like that I would have cancelled and gone elsewhere.

I have an issue with a mole which it appears there is. These boards to some are sacred. I think we feel as though we can ask a question and not be flamed, well let me think about that cause people are flamed all the time. I see all the time people that aren't mod. calling people to the carpet for things, this is jmo but people need to say out of things that don't concern them, it is like elementary school where people are tatteling on others. Again JMO

 

[HeatherPage]

I'll chime in with my apologies to Tony. Lakey...give me a break!

 

[Lakey]

I'm not offended by your posting part of the email address - I just don't happen to think that it's 'playing nice' or even fair, come to that. What about that person's rights? You consider they don't have any I suppose, just you have rights to say what you wish to others whether it's insulting, personally derogatory or anything else.

I don't think anyone is the least bit interested in your email address although it would be nice to ban it from everywhere I guess so perhaps you could do us that kind service? I can't imagine anyone, having read this thread, is likely to solicit your business in any way, shape or form!

I don't doubt that your intention wasn't to be profane but you really should look up words before you throw them around with such abandon and insult people. Yes, even other readers than you haven't even sent that disgusting email to are/should be offended by reading it. What if there are children who may access this website?

So I joined today did I? Especially to have a pop at you? I think not... If you take the trouble to look (obviously you didn't or you wouldn't have mentioned it) you'll see I've been a member since 2005!

Perhaps your moderator will feel inclined to check out the IP address (the ISP won't prove anything whatsoever) of everyone who's posted on this thread? I'm 110% certain that they're not all the same and no, it's not your right to know that - at least you're correct about one thing.

I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but starting a thread knowing that you had sent that email to someone (but you presumably didn't expect them to retaliate and post your email response to them I take it?) isn't 'freedom of speech' or even 'playing fair' IMHO. It's called blatant discrediting or getting your own back - serves you right that the recipient posted it and you had to admit you did send it after all. Shame on you and not them...

As far as I can see, the only person you've just about managed to totally discredit is yourself throughout this whole thread that you started.

 

[Detailor]

IMO, this was one of the best resolved disagreements that I've seen on a forum - about a dozen posts back. Both parties seem to have acted with cooler heads and maturity.

Both of the principals in this issue apologized to each other and to the members of the board. Why don't we just leave them alone and, as Tony James Wright suggested, put the topic behind us and move on?

Dick Taylor

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Interesting read! Just a thought, but if those rallying around the rental home owner are indeed different people, it would probably be to your benefit if noone learns your true identity or which home you own. None of you are coming across as renter friendly. In this situation, the owner is the person who benefits most by the home being rented. The potential renter has nothing to lose. If anyone is losing by their rude behavior, it's the owner. As an owner, you may get upset by fellow owners undercutting you. Unfortunately, that's business. If you must be rude to someone, contact the other owners & tell them how you feel about it. The way I see it, taking it out on potential renters is a losing proposition. That is, unless you're not really that interested in renting out your home in the 1st place.

 

[Darcy03231]

I have to say that I too thought the owner's response was rude. If he didn't want to accept a lower offer all he had to do was not respond to the inquiry.

 

[MiaSRN62]

I honestly have to question the number of first time DISboard posters we've had here on this one subject.

I agree...seems odd that quite a few of them are just popping up with 5 or less posts to their name ?
I've been following this thread too. While I've never rented a home, I have considered it. I feel Travelin'Gal was gracious and apologized, as did Tony. So kudos to them both for being able to come to an amicable end point.

As for Lakey.....please ? I hardly feel they should be removed from the boards ? And I hardly feel TravelinGal has discredited herself. I can understand how she might have acted in an angry, heat-of-the-moment from the intial response she received. It was sort of like a knee-jerk reaction to the email. But that aside, I am glad they came out civil towards eachother in the end.

 

[Chaufeurse]

Hi,

Blimey, this rocked a few boats!

The reason that so many new people, including myself, came here was due to the incident and emails being discussed on another forum - in full. Tony listed the responses from both parties - not just the side he wanted people to see. It was during the discussions that people in that forum were made aware of Robin having posted her side of the story on this forum. Understandably Tony wanted to, and had the right, to ensure that the full story was forthcoming to people who had already decided that he was the rude one, then he had made up the reply, and then suddenly there were 'new people popping in to add their comments' wherein it was 'hinted' that it was one person from the same ISP! That is what a forum is all about - discussing issues be they pleasant or not. Both parties were entitled to their opinions to be heard fairly and on this forum that was not initially the case. Thankfully the issue was resolved between Robin and Tony.

It's a begger renting out sometimes - luckily, because my place is in Cape Coral, I do not receive too many emails requesting cheap or bargain prices compared to the owners within the Disney area. Occassionally it gets the better of us and we become irritated - would not be human if we didn't - and possibly skint due to all the costs of maintaining said 'begger' too! Hmmm, Begger House, now there's an idea for a name change of our place. Seriously though, owners make incredible sacrifices to maintain the high standards of their Disney and Gulf homes and the rental prices for these homes are excellent. Just occasionally the barage of people wanting to knock the price down and down can be depressing. It pays to think outside the box from both aspects - the owner and renter.

So, another Brit, sitting watching our 4th day of persistent rain with 10 degree 'warmth' (tongue in cheek at this point especially as another 3 days of the same are forecast - psssst Florida, chuck some sun this way please luv!) just wanting to add her two pence worth to why so many of us came to the forum and added our comments.

Tarrah all, take care,

Christine

 

[mbb]

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