Using an annual pass as KttW.

[DoughR]

I suppose it's fairly common knowledge now that, for the time being, AP holders can double dip FPs when they link their passes to any magicbands they might have received. But I just found out that I can use my annual pass as a room key, to make charges, and even use it to scan into my scheduled FP+ attractions. It has pretty much eliminated the need to wear my band at all. It is a bit easier to scan my pass that is hanging on a lanyard around my neck inside a pin trading pouch. Much less finicky than the band. Is this common knowledge? A few CMs have been surprised by this when I do it. I have a premier pass that I received at DLR so I'm curious to see if it works with any other passes.

 

[bumbershoot]

The other day I read a post where I think a CM told someone it could be used in that way, but I know that I didn't believe it. (if I'm remembering correctly)

Interesting. And it will be interesting to see if anyone but Premier holders can do it.

 

[pampam]

Now, that is a jaw dropping bit of info. i too am curious about a regular AP.

 

[AmyB2006]

The other day I read a post where I think a CM told someone it could be used in that way, but I know that I didn't believe it. (if I'm remembering correctly)

Interesting. And it will be interesting to see if anyone but Premier holders can do it.

LOL, that was my post, I believe. And no, you didn't believe it.

That was my friend that checked into SSR and they didn't give her a KTTW card. When she asked about it, he told her that her AP was her KTTW card. Is how she told me at least. And she has a regular AP.

I knew it could be used for FP-, didn't know it could be used like a MB for all those other things. It makes sense. The new ones are all RFID cards.

 

[HM]

I don't get how this works. It's an AP card and theoretically has no credit card information attached to it (you could have paid cash for it) and doesn't have your room information on it. Right? (I get that it can be used for FP). What am I missing?

 

[AmyB2006]

I don't get how this works. It's an AP card and theoretically has no credit card information attached to it (you could have paid cash for it) and doesn't have your room information on it. Right? (I get that it can be used for FP). What am I missing?

But it's an RFID card now, same as the bands. Maybe it can transmit and receive the same information that the MB can if it's linked to your MDE page? It doesn't have information stored on the card, but neither does the band.

 

[JanaDee]

But it's an RFID card now, same as the bands. Maybe it can transmit and receive the same information that the MB can if it's linked to your MDE page? It doesn't have information stored on the card, but neither does the band.

RFID AP's have been around since last Spring. I know mine didn't work as a KTTW in late October.

I would be interested in hearing from people that have actually *used* the AP to charge stuff and open their resort door.

 

[AmyB2006]

RFID AP's have been around since last Spring. I know mine didn't work as a KTTW in late October.

I would be interested in hearing from people that have actually *used* the AP to charge stuff and open their resort door.

I realize they've been around since Spring, but they didn't have this whole system really come online till October. And your AP would had to have been linked to the account etc.

I'll let you know on Sunday. LOL I definitely plan on testing this out.

 

[JanaDee]

I realize they've been around since Spring, but they didn't have this whole system really come online till October. And your AP would had to have been linked to the account etc.

I'll let you know on Sunday. LOL I definitely plan on testing this out.

Mine was linked. OP has a Premier Pass, I'm wondering if that is the difference.

 

[LynnsGirl2027]

We just got back last night after being there since Friday. We are annual pass holders and stayed at the Boardwalk. We were given KTTW cards and had our magic bands. We went into all of the parks and tried all kinds of things. We were able to triple dip on the fastpasses using all three (Magic Bands, KTTW cards and Annual Pass cards). Most of the time we didn't need the passes because the crowds weren't bad at all, so we looked for the most frustrated looking people in lines and passed them out. Furthermore - we were able to get fp- using the cards one right after another - not waiting until they expired like they were managed previously. Now - we didn't try this on rides like Toy Story Mania - but the triple dipping worked on Soarin', Tower of Terror, Big Thunder Railroad, Everest, Splash Mountain and Rockin' Rollercoaster. The only time that we were 'denied' was on rides that no longer use paper fastpasses like Little Mermaid and the new Ariel's ride in Fantasy Land. Again it was just an experiment to see what we could do.

In general we didn't encounter any trouble with the magic bands. If the fp- rules could just be transferred to the magic bands - it would be a terrific idea.

 

[DoughR]

It's my last day in the parks and I'll be using my AP in lieu of my band. I'll update later on how well it goes. I have my band in my pocket in case anything happens.

 

[AmyB2006]

It's my last day in the parks and I'll be using my AP in lieu of my band. I'll update later on how well it goes. I have my band in my pocket in case anything happens.

Don't forget!

 

[jaysmom4285]

Furthermore - we were able to get fp- using the cards one right after another - not waiting until they expired like they were managed previously..

Just to clarify - are you saying that you didn't have to wait the two hours, or until the entry time for one FP- had gone by? If you pulled a FP- at 9 AM with a return time of 10-11 AM, were you able to pull another one for a different attraction before 10?

 

[LynnsGirl2027]

jaysmom4285 - yes - we got confused on which cards we used. We were at Epcot and got a FP- for Soarin' for 7-8 pm. It was 1:00pm and we used the KTTW cards (the same ones we used for Soarin') to get one for Test Track from 7:15 - 8:15 pm. We couldn't believe it happened! We sat down and went through it in our heads together and were positive that's how it happened because I was holding the KTTW cards and hubby had the AP's.

All I can say is that things are so wacky right now. I wish I were still there to see if my annual pass would have opened our doors.

 

[bumbershoot]

LOL, that was my post, I believe. And no, you didn't believe it.

That was my friend that checked into SSR and they didn't give her a KTTW card. When she asked about it, he told her that her AP was her KTTW card. Is how she told me at least. And she has a regular AP.

You know how it goes here, though...the first report of something, especially if it's a report on behalf of someone else (who we can't ask further, detailed questions), almost has to be doubted, because otherwise mass hysteria starts. Whenever someone has a glitch and reports as fact it causes freakouts. Far better to start off slowly, get it verified, etc.

And honestly it seems so surprising, unexpected, and IMO weird to have it work like that.

I don't get how this works. It's an AP card and theoretically has no credit card information attached to it (you could have paid cash for it) and doesn't have your room information on it. Right? (I get that it can be used for FP). What am I missing?

What I feel I'm missing is the WHY for this. Why would we want our APs to act in all of these ways? It's *admission*, not a KTTW. Now if this is some way to have APs on the KTTW, which I *think* is something that hadn't yet happened, that's one thing. But I know that I don't expect my *admission* media to access my full info in my account, nor do I personally really WANT it to.

And, of course, CMs with all of this stuff have such conflicting info. Oct 6th when we went to get RFID APs at AK Guest Relations (so tempting to put GR there but I just couldn't take all those abbreviations in a row) the CM who seemed competent in every way was absolutely flummoxed to find that our APs were linked to our MBs and we could have entered with our MBs. He hadn't seen this, didn't know it was live. And because of this he had no idea how to create RFID cards for us. So despite an October trip, we still have the normal tyvek APs along with our MBs, because he didn't know how to do it and (because he seemed so competent and knowledgable) we didn't know that using MBs for admission when you have APs was a *thing* by then, and I didn't know I could ask someone else for the RFID card. And I figured that I could just use the Tyvek card for parking if offsite and for discounts.

Anyway, I just wouldn't have expected this. I just read the new T&C and don't remember seeing anything like this there.

 

[DoughR]

Okay so first instance this morning was my brother trying to buy a pack of Halls inside Everything POP shopping & dining and the CM told him that he needed ID to use his AP and she was rather rude about it. I think she misunderstood what he was trying to do because he got the AP discount for the Halls and he paid with his regular card. You wouldn't need ID normally because like KTTW and magic bands, scanning the AP for charges requires the same pin you set up for it to work. In DHS we used our APs at Pizza planet just fine and then again to use our FP+ for Toy Story. When our FP+ for ToT were up we headed there and the CM was confused on what we did to scan in and asked what we used. We showed her our APs and she expressed intrigue and sent us on our way. The ride was a walk on at the point btw, DHS was fairly dead today due to the early closure. We came back to POP and I asked for a list of charges under our account from the concierge and sure enough our Pizza Planet charges were there under each of us and we have separate pins for our folios.

Here is a video of me using my AP to open my room: http://youtu.be/DXJhHe4Xpl8

 

[AmyB2006]

You know how it goes here, though...the first report of something, especially if it's a report on behalf of someone else (who we can't ask further, detailed questions), almost has to be doubted, because otherwise mass hysteria starts. Whenever someone has a glitch and reports as fact it causes freakouts. Far better to start off slowly, get it verified, etc. And honestly it seems so surprising, unexpected, and IMO weird to have it work like that.

Meh, I know. I knew it would be questioned. I even prefaced my whole post I think saying it's not firsthand. Lol. I knew I'd find out for myself in a few days anyway. 4 more days!!

 

[fairestoneofall]

I suppose it's fairly common knowledge now that, for the time being, AP holders can double dip FPs when they link their passes to any magicbands they might have received. But I just found out that I can use my annual pass as a room key, to make charges, and even use it to scan into my scheduled FP+ attractions. It has pretty much eliminated the need to wear my band at all. It is a bit easier to scan my pass that is hanging on a lanyard around my neck inside a pin trading pouch. Much less finicky than the band. Is this common knowledge? A few CMs have been surprised by this when I do it. I have a premier pass that I received at DLR so I'm curious to see if it works with any other passes.

the CM who gave me my APs told me the same thing. he said it's because all RFID is linked.

 

[dayvewc]

I'm kind of curious if this is an intentional thing, or more of an accident due to how the rfid works.

 

[DebbieB]

Okay so first instance this morning was my brother trying to buy a pack of Halls inside Everything POP shopping & dining and the CM told him that he needed ID to use his AP and she was rather rude about it. I think she misunderstood what he was trying to do because he got the AP discount for the Halls and he paid with his regular card. You wouldn't need ID normally because like KTTW and magic bands, scanning the AP for charges requires the same pin you set up for it to work. In DHS we used our APs at Pizza planet just fine and then again to use our FP+ for Toy Story. When our FP+ for ToT were up we headed there and the CM was confused on what we did to scan in and asked what we used. We showed her our APs and she expressed intrigue and sent us on our way. The ride was a walk on at the point btw, DHS was fairly dead today due to the early closure. We came back to POP and I asked for a list of charges under our account from the concierge and sure enough our Pizza Planet charges were there under each of us and we have separate pins for our folios.

Here is a video of me using my AP to open my room: http://youtu.be/DXJhHe4Xpl8

You need to show ID to get the AP discount.

I think everything links back to your MDE account, so whichever you use, it should work.