Unpopular Opinions- Wish Edition

[quinnc19]

I have never done an inside cabin but was strongly considering it given the DVC cruise is only 3 days and they look cool. Disappointing.

 

[mcd2745]

So we have a lot of speculation surrounding the lack of adult spaces - for both the pool deck/Quit Cove area as well as nighttime/bar areas. Since we know the Star Wars lounge will basically be off the lobby, as well as a performance stage, it has reasonably led to the speculation that the usual nighttime adult bar area/district we are familiar with might not be part of the Wish. While I, and many others, would consider that unfortunate, the question is...can we really blame Disney?

It always seemed to me that those areas are routinely under-utilized - particularly "late night" after 11-11:15pm (which I myself don't really consider "late" at all) as soon the performer, or things like "Match Your Mate" ends in the lounge. Now, I personally would put a lot of the blame for that on DCL. The show in the main lounge ends, and they never have anything else scheduled...anywhere...so just about all the adults head back to their rooms. The main lounge usually only has dancing with a DJ playing music, for some reason, at a decibel level they can hear back in Port Canaveral and maybe at most a handful of people stick around. The other bars do not do anything either. It would be nice if they offered some type of entertainment or interactive activities (how about some late-night trivia?) to keep people out and involved/engaged. When travelling with just the immediate family, my wife and I are just not likely to simply hang out at a bar and have a few drinks if nothing is going on. If we were travelling with a group of friends and/or family, different story. However, we have only travelled with larger groups on other lines, not DCL (it's hard enough getting groups of people to travel together, let alone with the price tag of DCL).

Maybe those bars are busier earlier in the evenings. I have been in O'Gills once or twice when they do trivia in the evening and it did have a decent crowd ( which brings me back to the earlier point that if you offer some type of activity, you'll attract people) but we rarely, if ever, are in those bars before dinner (we always get second seating). I feel like there is never anyone in the Champagne bar. Skyline, sometimes. Those of you who spend time in the bars in the adult district during the evenings can tell me if they are actually crowded or not. I know some days they do offer some kids activities in those spaces during the afternoon before the bars actually open, or do sales pitches, err presentations for things like DVC, sometimes in the main lounge. But those things could easily be moved elsewhere. So unfortunately, maybe DCL feels like they can better utilize the space(s) those areas usually occupy with other concepts.

 

[soniam]

So we have a lot of speculation surrounding the lack of adult spaces - for both the pool deck/Quit Cove area as well as nighttime/bar areas. Since we know the Star Wars lounge will basically be off the lobby, as well as a performance stage, it has reasonably led to the speculation that the usual nighttime adult bar area/district we are familiar with might not be part of the Wish. While I, and many others, would consider that unfortunate, the question is...can we really blame Disney?

It always seemed to me that those areas are routinely under-utilized - particularly "late night" after 11-11:15pm (which I myself don't really consider "late" at all) as soon the performer, or things like "Match Your Mate" ends in the lounge. Now, I personally would put a lot of the blame for that on DCL. The show in the main lounge ends, and they never have anything else scheduled...anywhere...so just about all the adults head back to their rooms. The main lounge usually only has dancing with a DJ playing music, for some reason, at a decibel level they can hear back in Port Canaveral and maybe at most a handful of people stick around. The other bars do not do anything either. It would be nice if they offered some type of entertainment or interactive activities (how about some late-night trivia?) to keep people out and involved/engaged. When travelling with just the immediate family, my wife and I are just not likely to simply hang out at a bar and have a few drinks if nothing is going on. If we were travelling with a group of friends and/or family, different story. However, we have only travelled with larger groups on other lines, not DCL (it's hard enough getting groups of people to travel together, let alone with the price tag of DCL).

Maybe those bars are busier earlier in the evenings. I have been in O'Gills once or twice when they do trivia in the evening and it did have a decent crowd ( which brings me back to the earlier point that if you offer some type of activity, you'll attract people) but we rarely, if ever, are in those bars before dinner (we always get second seating). I feel like there is never anyone in the Champagne bar. Skyline, sometimes. Those of you who spend time in the bars in the adult district during the evenings can tell me if they are actually crowded or not. I know some days they do offer some kids activities in those spaces during the afternoon before the bars actually open, or do sales pitches, err presentations for things like DVC, sometimes in the main lounge. But those things could easily be moved elsewhere. So unfortunately, maybe DCL feels like they can better utilize the space(s) those areas usually occupy with other concepts.

Nope. They are usually dead, unless there is some activity occurring. Even live music doesn't seem to draw people. We actually like that they aren't busy, but it's a waste of space for most people.

 

[RamblingMad]

Nope. They are usually dead, unless there is some activity occurring. Even live music doesn't seem to draw people. We actually like that they aren't busy, but it's a waste of space for most people.

I rarely saw people in the bars/lounges during my cruise on the Fantasy. I think, folks will stop by the Star Wars one for a peak and then leave. I'm not sure what the draw is going to be to stay. It's not like Disney is going to have dancers and a band like in Jabba's Palace.

 

[soniam]

I rarely saw people in the bars/lounges during my cruise on the Fantasy. I think, folks will stop by the Star Wars one for a peak and then leave. I'm not sure what the draw is going to be to stay. It's not like Disney is going to have dancers and a band like in Jabba's Palace.

I would feel bad for the CM who has to play "sexy Leia"

 

[dad of 3 addicted to DCL]

Every single cruise my wife and I vow to stay up late and hit the clubs for some dancing and late night entertainment. 12 cruises later, we're snoring at 10:30. Every. Single. Time. We're just too worn out. At the beginning it was keeping up with the littles. Now, well, we're on the other side of 50...

Either way, generally underwhelmed - so far- with the Wish, which is really too bad as I was very ready to be pleased.

 

[MomOTwins]

But way nicer than ending up wrapped in a shower curtain when you try and shower! One of my biggest gripes about cruise bathrooms. Also easier to clean

That’s why I loved the rooms on the Dream class with the big round tubs which it looks like are gone on the Wish.

 

[kathi]

I feel like there is never anyone in the Champagne bar.

We are always in the champagne bar on the Fantasy. It is full before second seating every night when they have piano or violin music.

 

[scroogie]

I would feel bad for the CM who has to play "sexy Leia"

I was taking a sip of my coffee when I read this and nearly choked!

We are always in the champagne bar on the Fantasy. It is full before second seating every night when they have piano or violin music.

Ooh La La? I only ventured in there once during my last cruise on the Fantasy, but there was indeed quite a respectable crowd in there.

 

[Keyser]

I'll add one (admittedly pretty minor) disappointment that I haven't seen others mention: the theming of Palo. I'm glad they are keeping Palo (one of my favorite places to eat, anywhere), but I thought the whole point of even the name was a Venice theme. Not sure how that relates to an English clock living in France?

I guess I'm willing to take a "wait and see" approach on some of the others. A Marvel themed restaurant does not sound at all interesting to me (and total side note: does it bother anyone besides me that the company is marketing heavily to the 12-and-under range with movies that typically get PG-13 ratings?!?), and a dinner show sounds more annoying that fun. But, I can see Disney pulling off something really good with them as well, and my 12 year old is excited about the Frozen theme...

In a more general sense, I'd been hoping to hear about some new thing for families/all ages to do (someone here mentioned an obstacle course? And, I guess the AquaMouse kind of fits there). Most things in this announcement seemed very kid-oriented, and with my youngest about to be a teen, it felt like little of this was aimed at us. Maybe some of that's to come, though.

 

[HokieRaven5]

I guess I'm willing to take a "wait and see" approach on some of the others. A Marvel themed restaurant does not sound at all interesting to me (and total side note: does it bother anyone besides me that the company is marketing heavily to the 12-and-under range with movies that typically get PG-13 ratings?!?), and a dinner show sounds more annoying that fun. But, I can see Disney pulling off something really good with them as well, and my 12 year old is excited about the Frozen theme...

I know this is anecdotal but my kids ( DS 5 and DS 3) know who a good bit of the marvel heroes are because of a few of the kid focused series that are available on Disney+. The one they've viewed the most is Marvel Superhero Adventures which is focused toward the 2-6 age group.

 

[TestingH2O]

but I thought the whole point of even the name was a Venice theme. Not sure how that relates to an English clock living in France?

I have asked myself the same question. While I may not be excited about the Frozen restaurant, I know the theming will be strong and consistent. I don’t have that feeling from Palo.

 

[Calantha]

I know this is anecdotal but my kids ( DS 5 and DS 3) know who a good bit of the marvel heroes are because of a few of the kid focused series that are available on Disney+. The one they've viewed the most is Marvel Superhero Adventures which is focused toward the 2-6 age group.

Same here. DS 6 isn't allowed to watch any of the live action movies, but I think he's seen every Marvel cartoon on Disney+ (or anywhere else they might turn up (e.g., Netflix/Amazon)).

 

[HokieRaven5]

I have asked myself the same question. While I may not be excited about the Frozen restaurant, I know the theming will be strong and consistent. I don’t have that feeling from Palo.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed both of the adult dining options have Beauty and the Beast themes. Giving Palo a Pinocchio theming would at least be consistent with the Italian vibe.

 

[MomOTwins]

We are always in the champagne bar on the Fantasy. It is full before second seating every night when they have piano or violin music.

It's my go to place as well. Love the champagne cocktails.

A Marvel themed restaurant does not sound at all interesting to me (and total side note: does it bother anyone besides me that the company is marketing heavily to the 12-and-under range with movies that typically get PG-13 ratings?!?), and a dinner show sounds more annoying that fun. But, I can see Disney pulling off something really good with them as well, and my 12 year old is excited about the Frozen theme...

In a more general sense, I'd been hoping to hear about some new thing for families/all ages to do (someone here mentioned an obstacle course? And, I guess the AquaMouse kind of fits there). Most things in this announcement seemed very kid-oriented, and with my youngest about to be a teen, it felt like little of this was aimed at us. Maybe some of that's to come, though.

I think the ship has sailed on Marvel stuff--alllll the kids in my now-9 year old twins' class saw the movies starting when they were about 7 so of course they have too. They are definitely on a spectrum of age-appropriateness. We tried to curate a subset of movies that had less of the scary/dark stuff, and fast-forwarded through a couple of bits. Black Panther, Ant Man, Captain Marvel, Thor, and Guardians of the Galaxy aren't too bad.

On family activities, I think the "Hero Zone" is intended to cover that.

 

[mcd2745]

I'll add one (admittedly pretty minor) disappointment that I haven't seen others mention: the theming of Palo. I'm glad they are keeping Palo (one of my favorite places to eat, anywhere), but I thought the whole point of even the name was a Venice theme. Not sure how that relates to an English clock living in France?

I think most people wanted a new, adult-only specialty restaurant and a steakhouse was the logical choice. However, they probably did not want to dedicate the space to a 3rd specialty restaurant, so they are seemingly just adding steakhouse offerings to Palo while still keeping the Italian offerings. I hope ultimately "Palo Steakhouse" does not suffer from an identity crisis as a result.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed both of the adult dining options have Beauty and the Beast themes. Giving Palo a Pinocchio theming would at least be consistent with the Italian vibe.

Pinocchio doesn't have a princess...so it's apparently not an option.

 

[JWG]

With such incomplete deck plans, I think it's hard to speculate on adult areas as they just maybe aren't being shown yet. They did push Vibe and adult dining together into the back of deck 12. That said, it looks pretty clear once you step off the elevator you you go a specific direction depending on who you are and you won't be mingling once you do that.

Aft deck 11 is surely Cabana's (or whatever that will be) plus the ice cream or sweet shop ahead of it. Further forward on 11 is probably the mix of quick serve dining and beachy retail (sun screen, bathing suits, flip flops) like on the dream class ships.

1923 looks amazing. Marvel seems interesting, but I'll wait and see. Animator's was an understated "show" and this looks more in your face. This ship is definitely more "Disney in your face" than previous, which isn't a surprise given their focus on IP everywhere.

We try to get on each ship once to try it, and then really go by itinerary after that. If the experience holds up, the Wish will be great.

 

[shoes99]

Since I have all this free time on my hands, I looked at the wish deck plans on the DCL website and were disappointed that most of the HC rooms are verandah.
We are a couple who need an accessible bathroom. We can book with the first Platinum tier and we wanted an inside or ocean view. They are scarce. We
dont need a verandah for a 4 night trip on the Wish.

Deck 2 2062 O, and 2559 I
Deck 6 6006 O and 6504 O
Deck 7 7510 O and 7512 O
Deck 8 8073 I
Deck 9 9175 I
I counted 25 verandah accessible cabins on the deck plan

 

[JWG]

Since I have all this free time on my hands, I looked at the wish deck plans on the DCL website and were disappointed that most of the HC rooms are verandah.
We are a couple who need an accessible bathroom. We can book with the first Platinum tier and we wanted an inside or ocean view. They are scarce. We
dont need a verandah for a 4 night trip on the Wish.

Deck 2 2062 O, and 2559 I
Deck 6 6006 O and 6504 O
Deck 7 7510 O and 7512 O
Deck 8 8073 I
Deck 9 9175 I
I counted 25 verandah accessible cabins on the deck plan

With 70% of the staterooms having verandahs this isn't surprising. The % seems to hold for HC staterooms. A separate argument may be if they have enough total accessible rooms. Each new ship seems to increase the # of verandah rooms and diminish inside staterooms.

 

[nmoody1]

It certainly would make sense to me to have Luna as the D-Lounge and night club rolled into one.... i rarely see both filled at the same time... D lounge is popular in the daytime/adult night clubs popular at night.... I feel like there is usually some character dance thing in the evenings I've seen in D lounge... but that could be moved to an open house in the kids club or even the atrium with its stage.

I also agree with the above poster that the adult spaces lack events/happenings to keep younin the bar late at night. They really could offer more at night