TV Psychics Lisa Williams and John Edward

[Devil_Dog99]

I am highly skeptical of JE. I saw a news magazine show debunking faith healers and how they have plants in the reception areas of the shows before people are lead into the auditorium. They ask all sorts of leading questions to gain information from people. These folks think they are just making small talk with another audience member. Then the info is relayed to the healer and he makes his 'miraculous' diagnoses. Perhaps they use the same technique, perhaps they don't.

That being said, I do believe there is something out there. My one and only time I ever used a Ouija board was about 20 years ago when I was in college. My brother, his gf and I were just hanging out and they asked me to try it. Skeptical then, I agreed, thinking I could debunk it.

The question I asked was what was the autograph on the very first baseball glove I ever owned? It was something I knew my brother would not know since A. he hated baseball, and B. this glove was mine when I was 6 and brother was 3.

I swear to Mickey I was barely touching the pointer thing and not moving it when it spelled out B-E-N-C-H. My first glove was a Johnny Bench catcher's mitt. I did not instantly become a believer, but I had to wonder what caused it. So either DB was smarter than I gave him credit for, or there was something else. I'd like to think it was something else.

 

[lisajl]

John Edwards was doing a reading for a young lady. Her father had passed away and JE said,"Your father did not walk you down the aisle." Of course she said, no and that a good family friend did. Well, about 3 min. later JE said, "You had a good family friend walk you down the aisle, your father saw that." The girl started to tear up and I was thinking, HELLO!, girl...you just said that to him!

Lisa Williams, well, I like her. She is scarey good, like others have said.
There is something quite different about her.

Lisa

 

[sunlver]

I love Lisa Williams. I do believe that some people do have the ability. I dont believe everybody who says they are a psychic is one. I guess with the tv ones, I would have to have a reading to really know for sure.
I find Lisa Williams fascinating, she is so nice and down to earthy\.. Slyvia brown is on Montel each week. I enjoy watching her, but she isnt as "nice" as Lisa
Oh and I love the new show Psychic Challenge.,very cool

 

[poohandwendy]

I think some people have a natural knack for leading a conversation they way they want it to go and good instincts about people.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

JE cracks me up. He will pick an elderly lady who looks say Italian. He then starts

JE: I see a mother figure.
Elderly Lady : Oh yes- my Mother has passed on
Me (in my head) - Well duh! She'd have to be at least 150 years old if she was alive!!!!

JE: I see someone with a Marie or Anthony but could be Tony.
Italian Lady- Oh yes! My brother's sister's aunt's cousins all are named either Anthony, Marie, Antonina or Mario!!!!
Me (again in my head) yeah, what are the chances of a nice Italian lady having those names in her family.

Come on now! He is just too much. I do think that some people have a gift but I think that some of JE is just good reading of body language. JMHO.

 

[lookingforward]

I totally believe in Lisa Williams. She is so good! That said, my grandfather has visited me twice since he died in 1986. The visits (some say dreams) were soooooooooooooooo real, that I believed. I also have premonitions, one was that my dad was going to have a heart attack. When I was pregnant with my son I went to talk to my dad to urge him to see a doctor and stop smoking. He laughed at me.
My mom was going to come and stay with me in NC when I had the baby but I had a really bad feeling and told her to wait a while to visit. The day my son was born my dad called from a business trip in Chicago and said he had a stomach ache. He flew home and went to work. For the first time in his life he left work early and came home. My mom was there and insisited that he go and took him to the doctor under duress. WIthin minutes they were calling an ambulance and my dad had been having a heart attack since Chicago. He barely survived and had to have triple by-pass. If my mom was in NC like she had planned my dad would have died because even he admitted that he would have gone to bed...and he would not have woken up.
I felt it all and it happened. Scary. That was 17 years ago and they will be celebrating their 50th anniversary.

 

[DISUNC]

I totally believe in Lisa Williams. She is so good! That said, my grandfather has visited me twice since he died in 1986. The visits (some say dreams) were soooooooooooooooo real, that I believed. I also have premonitions, one was that my dad was going to have a heart attack. When I was pregnant with my son I went to talk to my dad to urge him to see a doctor and stop smoking. He laughed at me.
My mom was going to come and stay with me in NC when I had the baby but I had a really bad feeling and told her to wait a while to visit. The day my son was born my dad called from a business trip in Chicago and said he had a stomach ache. He flew home and went to work. For the first time in his life he left work early and came home. My mom was there and insisited that he go and took him to the doctor under duress. WIthin minutes they were calling an ambulance and my dad had been having a heart attack since Chicago. He barely survived and had to have triple by-pass. If my mom was in NC like she had planned my dad would have died because even he admitted that he would have gone to bed...and he would not have woken up.
I felt it all and it happened. Scary. That was 17 years ago and they will be celebrating their 50th anniversary.

My Grandfather had died quite unexpectantly, and he took care of EVERYTHING when he was alive.
My Grandmother SWORE that he "talked" to her all the time. She would ask him "Where did you place the hammer?" and soon after she find the hammer in the bathroom closet. Once her hall light (very high ceiling light) burnt out, and called me over to change it....she couldnt use the stairs because it was so dark. She also asked Grandpa to fix it. I got there about 2 hours later, dragged the ladder out, then me not thinkin ...flipped the switch...and whooola the light went on. No need to change it.
My grandmother lived in that house for another 10 years....and that lightbulb NEVER needed to be changed!

 

[transparant]

I'm more of a skeptic, but my mom swears by it.

 

[Poohbear123]

John Edwards is fake, not sure about Lisa Williams as yet. My Mom could "read your hand" and could tell a fake person or a liar from the get go! I now have that abilility, now that I am older. My DD is VERY much like my Mom, and sounds and acts JUST like her at times!

 

[Feralpeg]

I have heard JE is definatly not doing what he claims and has an extensive team of researchers and such that help him get info on the people he reads, is that true? I dont know, if it brings people comfort and peace than more power to him, hes doing those folks a service and that is great.

Lisa williams however,well she just seems downright scarey good, I had read or seen somewhere her grandmother was one of the royal families personal medium as well.

I would like to believe

Oh after williams on friday nights they have a psycic challenge show, thats pretty cool if you like stuff like this

I saw JE. You'll never convince me that he is fake. He did a reading on a friend of mine who had lost her mom shortly before attending the show. There is no way he could have known anything about her because we got the tickets at the last minute. He was right on. It was wonderful and made my friend feel much better.

 

[lookingforward]

My Grandfather had died quite unexpectantly, and he took care of EVERYTHING when he was alive.
My Grandmother SWORE that he "talked" to her all the time. She would ask him "Where did you place the hammer?" and soon after she find the hammer in the bathroom closet. Once her hall light (very high ceiling light) burnt out, and called me over to change it....she couldnt use the stairs because it was so dark. She also asked Grandpa to fix it. I got there about 2 hours later, dragged the ladder out, then me not thinkin ...flipped the switch...and whooola the light went on. No need to change it.
My grandmother lived in that house for another 10 years....and that lightbulb NEVER needed to be changed!

I believe. I think that people who do believe are more open to things like that happening. Your grandmother just accepted his help from beyond so she was more open to it. She felt the connection and did not fight it. Beautiful when you think about love transcending like that.

 

[mommylicious]

My mother and I have been to see John Edward and I do believe he is the real thing. I went in suspecting the plant theory. There was a woman who arrived just after my mother and I and stood in line just behind us. She was crying quietly and clutching something in her hands. We said hello to her but didn't have any significant conversation with her. She ended up sitting just down from us. He read her that evening. Her daugher came through. She had been blaming herself for her daughter's death and he said to her "your daughter said you need to stay here. Do you understand?" she said yes. Later, after the show, he was signing copies of his book and she was again, in line near us. As he was handing her the book back he sort of whispered and asked her if she had been contemplating suicide. She sobbed and nodded yes. He told her he believed she was the reason he was there that night and that her daughter said she need to stay here, meaning among the living. He told her a few other things including mentioning her daughter's favorite book. Considering this woman stoood next to us in line and sat next to us we saw that no one came out and talked to her or anything. If she was a plant, her "act" extended into the after show book signing and she deserves an academy award for her performance.

A few years later my cousin came through as he was reading my mother. She was 18 when she was murdered by her ex-boyfriend. He was reading someone else when he asked if anyone had a young woman named Barb or Barbra who died in her car but not in a car accident (she was sitting in the car when he shot her). She was a B-B (her initials) and a daughter figure (my mother's God Daughter). My Mom stood up and said "I think that is my niece." He knew her death was unexpected, told us she didn't suffer and said she wanted her Mom to know it was OK to wear the ring and OK to move the furniture. We were not aware of it but after she died my Aunt had taken the ring she was wearing and carried it with her all the time but couldn't bring herself to wear it. Also, my Aunt and Uncle wanted to make a room in their house for their grandkids to sleep in but her room was the only "spare" bedroom and they were hesitant to take her things out of the room feeling like they would be moving her out of their lives. Neither Mom or I were aware of the ring or the room situation so neither of us could have given any clues on that. It wasn't untill after the reading when Mom called my Aunt that we found out what that meant. So yeah, I believe he is real.

Who knows though! I do know my Mom and my Aunt (same Aunt from above, MY Godmother, who passed last year after fighting breast cancer for several years) promised each other that they would make sure to contact each other if they could. Before my Aunt died Mom asked her to "surround her with yellow butterflies" and low and behold we've had yellow butterflies around all year, even when it is chilly. When I was pregnant with my now 1 year old and we went through a scary time thinking something may really be wrong, I came home from a rather discouraging appointment, opened my front door and a big yellow monarch butterfly flew out of my door and landed on my stomach for a moment before flying away. The doors and windows in my house were all shut tight so I have no idea how that butterfly could have gotten in there. My mother had an experience a while ago where she had been thinking of my Aunt and she said she had this experience like my Aunt was talking to her "inside her head" like she could hear her but not a physical sort of hear if that makes sense. My Aunt said "tell Rob (her son) that I am, I was and always." Mom didn't call my cousin thinking he would think she was crazy. When it happened again she decided she may as well call and see if he knew what it meant. He did. He said he had been asking her to let him know if she was OK, if she was there when his son was born and if she was with him and his kids. So the answers...I am, I was and always made perfect sense to him.

Also, my son who is now 7 was born about 2 weeks before my Grandfather passed away. I was very upset that I didn't get to go to see him when we knew his time was coming. I had preeclampsia and was on bed rest so I couldn't travel. I was so upset that I didn't get to say goodbye to him in person. When my son was about 2 he started talking about "his white haired man." He talked about him a lot in sort of an imaginary friend sort of way. He told me once his white haired man must think I was a nice Mommy because he smiled at me a lot and sometimes blew me kisses. The references to the white haired man continued untill he was about 4 and a half. One day when he was around 4 or so we were visiting family and I was showing him pictures of me growing up. He picked up one of my Grandfather and said to my cousin "Aunt Christy, where did you get this picture of my white haired man?" We asked him if the white haired man ever talked to him and he said no, just played with him and would sit by his bed when he was scared at night. I asked him about a year later if he still saw the white haired man and he told me no, he went to go dance with some lady and they never came back. I told my Mom this and she started crying. The night my grandfather died Mom dreamed of him. In her dream they were at a party and were sitting together talking about some of her fondest childhood memories. He told her "I have to go dance with your mother now" and got up. My grandmother had been dead nearly 10 years by that point so him "going to dance with some lady" had significance to my mother.

 

[GirTheGecko]

I have no idea if John or Lisa are fakes, but I do believe it can happen. After my mom passed, a dear friend of hers went to a psychic with friends for a fun girl's night out. He's going through, reading them, etc. He gets to Julie (dear friend) and just stops. Afterwards, he pulls her aside and tells her of what he saw. It was how my mother died, and he didn't want to tell the other girls since it was supposed to be a fun night. She said he looked pretty shaken up. So, my mom is still being her normal, blunt self on the other side using this poor gent to get her point across.

 

[froglady]

A woman in line, openly crying and clutching something? No way she could have suffered a recent loss! And what was she clutching? Maybe a picture of a young woman, or the young woman's favorite book?
And what a surprise....she blamed herself for her daughter's death. It would be more surprising if he had said, "Gee, you don't have any guilt nor do you feel the least bit of blame for your child's death, and you haven't been despondent enough to EVER consider suicide since she died. What's wrong with you?"

If she wasn't a plant, I don't think it would take a physic to figure out she had just lost someone close to her. Anyone, including a plant who was searching the audience for a mark, could obtain a lot of information without talking to her. Do you really think that these physics don't have advance people checking newspapers, etc, before they arrive someplace, especially the obituaries?

I stand by my leading questions theory, and perhaps a process we don't know about. The fact that I can't tell you EXACTLY how a magician performs an illusion doesn't mean that it is really magic, and that he/she has the ability to do something that defies explanation, and that he really DID make that elephant disappear.

Sometimes people are just very observant, good guessers, and are able to obtain information without the appearance of doing so.


Now, do I believe that sometimes our loved ones communicate with us? I've lived long enough to experience many strange, unexplainable things, so I will not discount it. I also know that if you're specifically looking for something, a sign, if you will, you will find it.

Whether it is real (as when I heard my deceased father tell me not to forget the yellow roses for his memorial service, or my dream when I saw him wealking without his walker, smiling and pain free at last) or just my subconscious is another question. I would like to think that the voices, dreams, etc are really my parents communicating with me, but I also believe that if they truly are contacting me, they don't need a stranger to help them.

BTW, when I was around 22, and deeply (or so I thought) in love with someone, I went to a psychic for fun, and she told me that I would not be marrying the person I was dating, but would meet a YOUNG man with salt and pepper hair, and marry him.

So, the question in my mind has always been, was she right, or did I subconsciously talk myself into falling in love with DH (who fit her description) because of what she had said a couple of years earlier?

After 32 years, I still don't know for sure.

 

[Feralpeg]

A woman in line, openly crying and clutching something? No way she could have suffered a recent loss! And what was she clutching? Maybe a picture of a young woman, or the young woman's favorite book?
And what a surprise....she blamed herself for her daughter's death. It would be more surprising if he had said, "Gee, you don't have any guilt nor do you feel the least bit of blame for your child's death, and you haven't been despondent enough to EVER consider suicide since she died. What's wrong with you?"

If she wasn't a plant, I don't think it would take a physic to figure out she had just lost someone close to her. Anyone, including a plant who was searching the audience for a mark, could obtain a lot of information without talking to her. Do you really think that these physics don't have advance people checking newspapers, etc, before they arrive someplace, especially the obituaries?

I stand by my leading questions theory, and perhaps a process we don't know about. The fact that I can't tell you EXACTLY how a magician performs an illusion doesn't mean that it is really magic, and that he/she has the ability to do something that defies explanation, and that he really DID make that elephant disappear.

Sometimes people are just very observant, good guessers, and are able to obtain information without the appearance of doing so.


Now, do I believe that sometimes our loved ones communicate with us? I've lived long enough to experience many strange, unexplainable things, so I will not discount it. I also know that if you're specifically looking for something, a sign, if you will, you will find it.

Whether it is real (as when I heard my deceased father tell me not to forget the yellow roses for his memorial service, or my dream when I saw him wealking without his walker, smiling and pain free at last) or just my subconscious is another question. I would like to think that the voices, dreams, etc are really my parents communicating with me, but I also believe that if they truly are contacting me, they don't need a stranger to help them.

BTW, when I was around 22, and deeply (or so I thought) in love with someone, I went to a psychic for fun, and she told me that I would not be marrying the person I was dating, but would meet a YOUNG man with salt and pepper hair, and marry him.

So, the question in my mind has always been, was she right, or did I subconsciously talk myself into falling in love with DH (who fit her description) because of what she had said a couple of years earlier?

After 32 years, I still don't know for sure.

So how do you explain my experience with my friend. She talked to nobody but me and my sister in line. We did not talk about her mom in line. We went in and sat down. JE waked around and stopped when he came near our section of the audience. He asked if there was anyone in the area named Frannie or Francis. My friend's name is Francis. He told her that her mom had recently passed. He described her mom to a T. Francis was not coping well with her mom's death. She thought they should have done more to help her. JR told Francis that her mom was fine and that they had done everything they could for her. Now, I'd like to know how he did that by observing her. We weren't wearing name tags. I don't even remember calling Francis by name in the line. You won't convince me that he is a fake. If that makes me gullible, so be it. I'd rather be gullible than a skeptic on everything I can't explain.

 

[merryweather20]

I agree with most of the posters. I beleive but, not in alot of the TV guys especially John Edwards. I used to watch his show all the time and was fairly sceptical since most of his comments seemed VERY vague. Sometimes though he would come up with an incredibly specific detail, or something that simply would aply to very few people.

I told my Mom one time about a sheep-herding comment he had made to one of the guests thinking it was incredibly specific and indicated he must have some sort of guft. She said, well it would have worked for us too. She was right. The guest had owned sheep, we owned sheep herding dogs, and someone who was more religious, especially catholc would have taken it as a biblical reference.

Reading through some of the experiences posted, the comments made by the psychic would have rung true for me as well. Say the one about the ring and the furniture, this would have meant something to me as well, but its very common to keep jewellery as a memento, and to be worried about moving things whether pictures, furniture, etc. from the other persons life.

That said I have certainly read and seen some psychic crime scene investigators that have blown me away.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I am a fan of JE and have seen him live, too. His book One Last Time is one of my favorites. I have no interest in debating whether he's "real" or not. If you don't believe, then so be it. But if the day comes when you want to open your mind and explore the afterlife a little more, IMO he's the place to start.

 

[Tinks]

I had a reading by JE and I'm a believer. I find that you have to have experienced it to believe it.

 

[froglady]

So how do you explain my experience with my friend. She talked to nobody but me and my sister in line. We did not talk about her mom in line. We went in and sat down. JE waked around and stopped when he came near our section of the audience. He asked if there was anyone in the area named Frannie or Francis. My friend's name is Francis. He told her that her mom had recently passed. He described her mom to a T. Francis was not coping well with her mom's death. She thought they should have done more to help her. JR told Francis that her mom was fine and that they had done everything they could for her. Now, I'd like to know how he did that by observing her. We weren't wearing name tags. I don't even remember calling Francis by name in the line. You won't convince me that he is a fake. If that makes me gullible, so be it. I'd rather be gullible than a skeptic on everything I can't explain.

I cannot EXPLAIN exactly how David Copperfield, for instance, actually performs some of his illusions, but I also know that he really didn't make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Only JE KNOWS how he does it. Just as I can't convince you that he's fake, there's no way you can convince me that he's real.

Having a good "intuition" (whatever that really is) doesn't make you a psychic, even though it may appear that way to others.

One day, and year or so after we married, out of the blue, I had an intuition that DH's ex girlfriend had called him at work, and he admitted it when I asked him.

I STILL don't know why I suddenly had that idea; maybe he had a guilty look. I just know that it wasn't anything paranormal.

 

[DISUNC]

So how do you explain my experience with my friend. She talked to nobody but me and my sister in line. We did not talk about her mom in line. We went in and sat down. JE waked around and stopped when he came near our section of the audience. He asked if there was anyone in the area named Frannie or Francis. My friend's name is Francis. He told her that her mom had recently passed. He described her mom to a T. Francis was not coping well with her mom's death. She thought they should have done more to help her. JR told Francis that her mom was fine and that they had done everything they could for her. Now, I'd like to know how he did that by observing her. We weren't wearing name tags. I don't even remember calling Francis by name in the line. You won't convince me that he is a fake. If that makes me gullible, so be it. I'd rather be gullible than a skeptic on everything I can't explain.

As a poster stated above. After all these years and all these shows....If JE had "scouts" in the audience...surely someone who have come forward by now. I heard too many stories of how he was 'spot on" and very specific and a few very vague 'anybody can do it' stories.

If someone is debunking him, I wish they be specific in how he is lying. As I said in my original posts...the Debunkers are always more vague.

Once, Penn from Penn & Teller was "debunking" JE...but he NEVER explained how JE was faking or tried to prove his theory in anyway, other than that Penn said so.