This Trip Report Is Under Refurbishment For Your Future Enjoyment (UPDATED 9/13 with final bonus chapter)

Captain_Oblivious

DIS Dad #257
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:rolleyes1

Genius move. I need to start bringing a bigger bag to these places. And those pretzel rolls are totally worth it.
Especially with cheese soup. It's a winning combination.

Finally caught up with your TR. Oh poor Julie. Those summer rainstorms are the worst! We decided to purchase the FL resident 4 day park pass this year since it has been a while since we've done Disney (being "dark side" passholders for the second year) and our Epcot day is this month. After reading this I'm a little worried we'll be bored and the whole you can only get one good fastpass thing has me irritated. But we'll be with some family that hasn't been there is years and years so maybe some of it will be new to them :rotfl2: and we'll be there during flower and garden so we have that going for us.
The tiers will always be frustrating. I hate being limited to one ride on TT per day. On the plus side, they are working on adding improvements so hopefully Epcot will regain some glory in a few years.

Looking forward to the rest. Glad to see that your daughter has healed from her surgery. Am I remembering correctly that there was supposed to be a Universal trip in there somewhere for you all?
Yes! We're hoping for early 2020 if I can work out the $$ side of things.

Yep. Same problem I had on my trip too. I didn't manage to ride it until our last morning.
We got two rides, both in the early morning. And there was still a wait.

Wow, big change. I wouldn't say my family disliked it, but definitely liked old Soarin' better.
I was surprised that no one wanted to try it again. It really dropped off in our estimation.

I have to agree. With so many great attractions at the other parks, Epcot just doesn't have that much to offer anymore, unless you have the ability (sans family) to go eating and drinking around the world.
I'm curious to see all the planned changes they have in store. Latest I read is that Club Cool, Starbucks and Innoventions is being shuttered for...something.
I'm hoping it will capture the old spirit of Epcot and not just be another IP park. I loved the whole "look into the future" idea.

This reminds me of a friend of mine who plays guitar. He knows pickin'.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

:rotfl2:I must remember this for next time!
I'm sure you won't get any strange looks!

I have never done Agent P. It does seem entertaining for the younger kids. I suspect my youngest is probably past this by now.
Probably. I like seeing how the Imagineers hid the secrets in plain sight. But I could probably only do one if I was by myself before getting bored.

I can only hope to smell like beaver butt in the morning.
I'm sure your wife says the same thing about you.

It sounds like a perfectly good plan to me...
What could possibly go wrong?

...but then I have also been in trouble with SWMBO before.
It does make for a good trip report story.
The good thing about it is that it's already forgotten, never to be brought up again.

Great shots. You are faking it wonderfully.
Whew! All those acting lessons paid off!

I had all three of these things on my list to try. I failed at all three. Why does the list just seem to get bigger no matter how many trips you do?
Because we just don't get there enough. They add so many new things in five years' time that there's no hope of catching up with it all.

Well played.
I do remember once having a lunch of bananas and mini cinnamon buns that DW has confiscated from the Akershus breakfast buffet.
I mean, it's not like you didn't already pay for it.
 

docsoliday1

DIS Dad #834 Cubs, Dolphins fan forever
Joined
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Chapter 13: A Whole Lotta Meh


So here we are in EPCOT, having just finished lunch…and with not a whole lot to do.


We know we can’t ride Test Track. No FP’s available and the wait time is in excess of 90 minutes. I searched on the MDE app, and lo and behold, there were FP’s available for Hoverin’ Around The World. So I asked the kids if anyone wanted to go on it, and…everyone said no. I was a little shocked at that, but I guess it speaks volumes as to how much my family disliked the changes to Soarin’. It went from a multiple-ride headliner to a one-and-done.
Finally at a real computer, so I can multiquote.
That's surprising. While it's not nearly as good as the original and smelling dirt is nowhere near as nice as smelling oranges, it's still better than other options (except TT). It has already been said, but definitely hold out for top row center. No dangling feet and no distortion of screen. Sad there's only 1 good section out of 9.

Same with Mission: Space. None of us like the training mission enough to want to do it more than once on this trip. It was more clear than ever that Epcot needs some serious help.
I went on the Orange a few weeks ago for the first time in a long time. I seem to recall going on it years ago when I was much younger, but it's been at least 10 years. I made sure I went on it late in the evening so if I got sick, it wouldn't ruin the rest of the day. I didn't get sick, but you can definitely feel the Gs. I think the original version of that was better also. Definitely miss Gary Sinese.



We made it to Japan, where I amused myself by screwing up Julie’s scenic photo.


So, did you photobomb her picture or were you asking her to check for nose hairs?

You can see the size of the Guardians coaster building to the right.
I'm sure it will be tier 1, but at least it will allow rope dropping TT since everyone else will be going there.

I would look like a dork, but Scotty does it justice.

Always remember: when you cross the bridge, you can see both the England and France pavilions. There is no more appropriate location to loudly declare: I see London, I see France!
I'm a bit embarrassed to say I had to look this reference up. I guess I lived a sheltered life or just don't recall hearing this before. Now I have something else to yell out in EPCOT. :lmao: The first is walking into club cool and yelling don't try the Beverly and then watching to see how many people will just because someone told them don't.


At some point, the CM’s must have been bored as well, because the started a spontaneous limbo challenge. As you can see, Drew had no issues with it.





Perhaps more impressive was the fact that Sarah (of the recent spinal surgery) was able to join in.
That would be some pretty bored CMs. Is that a roll of stickers they're using for the "bar" or just handing out stickers too?

Cool that Sarah could do it.

The skies were darkening, so we moved on to Canada once we were finished saving the world. I did not pick up any Beaver Butt soap this time around, but I still felt the spiritual presence of @pkondz and @Terra Nova guy .


I disagree they're polite...they're just frozen. It's not polite when they call us wimps for thinking 10, 20, 30 is cold (yes ABOVE 0). :lmao:


I think all the pictures are good, but I really like this one.


We had one last FP for Spaceship Earth to use, so we started walking back to Future World. As we walked, we started to feel a few drops of rain. Nothing serious, but the afternoon shower was close at hand. Julie wondered aloud if we should stop at one of the gift shops by the World Showcase entrance to take cover.
Danger Will Robinson! Some advice...rain in FL is unpredictable. When it can be pouring on one side of the interstate and the the other side is sunny (yes, I'm 100% serious...I've seen it more times than I can count)


“We’re not gonna make it!” I declared, just so everyone around me would be fully aware of the now dire situation we face. The only move left was to make a break for it and sprint.
Finally, he comes to the realization he was wrong....again. :rotfl2:


Where was Julie?
Ruh roh George!


Apparently, that strategy had backfired. She was…how do I put this?...less than pleased. Hey, on the bright side, we have a fun story to tell now, right honey?


Honey?


Sweetie-pie?
You're going to be paying for this for years. I don't think it will be a funny story for her.

Would a cute kid help? That always helps.


Helps us, but I don't think Julie's cute kid will absolve you of your lack of weather prediction prowess.


Gradually, the skies cleared and we started to air-dry as we walked to Spaceship Earth. Once again, I was too ugly for the camera to register that I was actually on the ride, but the others got some fun poses in.





Love their faces.

We found a Photopass guy out by the front entrance and pretended to still like each other.








Good pictures.
I wonder if Julie is secretly thinking...he's so dead when we get back to the room. Seriously, great picture of you two.



We stopped in Club Cool just for something to do. Dave and Scotty put their heads together and, being 1) boys, and 2) bored, came up with the Beverly Challenge. Each of them would fill a cup with Beverly and then down the entire thing in one swallow. I managed to get the following priceless video of the event, which was joined by a late challenger:

Still love that video. Gives a whole new meaning to "YOU GO GIRL!!!".

We were getting hungry, and we’d already had our sit-down meal for the day. Our choices were either PB&J sandwiches or to scrounge up whatever snacks struck our fancy in EPCOT. Seeing as how we’d left the PB&J supplies back in the hotel room, the choice was made easy. Taking care to ensure a balanced diet of starch, meat, dairy, and sugar, we all shared in a veritable feast of cheddar-bacon soup, cheddar-bacon French fries, and cronuts.






I've seen the soup and the poutine, but didn't know they had cheddar bacon fries or cronuts there. I happen to like the brisket poutine.
 
  • Steppesister

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    I was a little shocked at that, but I guess it speaks volumes as to how much my family disliked the changes to Soarin’. It went from a multiple-ride headliner to a one-and-done.
    While I don't count it out completely, I too am a one and done now.

    Always remember: when you cross the bridge, you can see both the England and France pavilions. There is no more appropriate location to loudly declare: I see London, I see France!
    :rotfl::lmao::rotfl2:

    Perhaps more impressive was the fact that Sarah (of the recent spinal surgery) was able to join in.
    Nice shot of the kids!

    Sooooo pretty! Just perfect!

    Apparently, that strategy had backfired. She was…how do I put this?...less than pleased. Hey, on the bright side, we have a fun story to tell now, right honey?


    Honey?


    Sweetie-pie?
    :lmao:

    I'm pretty sure you may be paying for that one for... awhile.

    It wound up being a fairly expensive trip to the souvenir shop as I tried to buy my way back into her good graces.
    Here, let me fix that for you:

    It wound up being a fairly expensive trip to the souvenir shop year as I tried to buy my way back into her good graces.

    Awww...

    Gorgeous! I really like this one. :lovestruc

    Julie revealed her master stroke: she produced six pretzel rolls from her bag, having successfully smuggled them out of the Biergarten earlier. Rumor has it we are now Delaware’s most successful crime family.
    :worship:

    Living on the edge.
     

    Captain_Oblivious

    DIS Dad #257
    Joined
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    Your EPCOT day sounds like ours anymore. The rides are def just meh to us for the most part.
    Soarin' and Mission: Space both were must-do's for us before. Both of them really took step back with the recent "upgrades".

    Finally at a real computer, so I can multiquote.
    That's surprising. While it's not nearly as good as the original and smelling dirt is nowhere near as nice as smelling oranges, it's still better than other options (except TT). It has already been said, but definitely hold out for top row center. No dangling feet and no distortion of screen. Sad there's only 1 good section out of 9.
    We'll hold out for the center seat next time, but I still felt there was less sense of flying in the new version.

    I went on the Orange a few weeks ago for the first time in a long time. I seem to recall going on it years ago when I was much younger, but it's been at least 10 years. I made sure I went on it late in the evening so if I got sick, it wouldn't ruin the rest of the day. I didn't get sick, but you can definitely feel the Gs. I think the original version of that was better also. Definitely miss Gary Sinese.
    Gary Sinise had that Apollo 13 connection going. Added a little sense of authenticity that the nameless actors don't.

    So, did you photobomb her picture or were you asking her to check for nose hairs?
    Yes.

    I'm sure it will be tier 1, but at least it will allow rope dropping TT since everyone else will be going there.
    True. Much like Avatar, I'm sure it will be FP or bust.

    I would look like a dork, but Scotty does it justice.
    He hasn't reached his "dork" phase yet.

    I'm a bit embarrassed to say I had to look this reference up. I guess I lived a sheltered life or just don't recall hearing this before. Now I have something else to yell out in EPCOT. :lmao: The first is walking into club cool and yelling don't try the Beverly and then watching to see how many people will just because someone told them don't.
    You can never have too many inside jokes.

    That would be some pretty bored CMs. Is that a roll of stickers they're using for the "bar" or just handing out stickers too?
    Yep, the stickers were the prize. Kids will do anything for stickers.

    Cool that Sarah could do it.
    ::yes::

    I disagree they're polite...they're just frozen. It's not polite when they call us wimps for thinking 10, 20, 30 is cold (yes ABOVE 0). :lmao:
    On the flip side, we can handle the heat better.

    I think all the pictures are good, but I really like this one.
    Thanks!

    Danger Will Robinson! Some advice...rain in FL is unpredictable. When it can be pouring on one side of the interstate and the the other side is sunny (yes, I'm 100% serious...I've seen it more times than I can count)
    I believe it. It comes at you fast.
    Finally, he comes to the realization he was wrong....again. :rotfl2:
    First mistake of the year!

    You're going to be paying for this for years. I don't think it will be a funny story for her.
    I'm the husband. All of my mistakes are remembered forever, to be brought up at any time in perpetuity.

    Helps us, but I don't think Julie's cute kid will absolve you of your lack of weather prediction prowess.
    Whatever. I'm no worse than the guys on TV.

    Good pictures.
    I wonder if Julie is secretly thinking...he's so dead when we get back to the room. Seriously, great picture of you two.
    Thanks. I'm sure she's thinking that all the time.

    Still love that video. Gives a whole new meaning to "YOU GO GIRL!!!".
    :woohoo:

    I've seen the soup and the poutine, but didn't know they had cheddar bacon fries or cronuts there. I happen to like the brisket poutine.
    You gotta get the cronut. They're wonderful.

    While I don't count it out completely, I too am a one and done now.
    It's just so...meh. It makes me sad, because I loved the California version.

    Nice shot of the kids!
    Thanks!

    Sooooo pretty! Just perfect!
    I'll never get tired of Disney eye candy.

    :lmao:

    I'm pretty sure you may be paying for that one for... awhile.
    Just put it on my tab.

    Here, let me fix that for you:

    It wound up being a fairly expensive trip to the souvenir shop year as I tried to buy my way back into her good graces.
    Well, you remember the Husband Scoring System:

    Put Toilet Seat Down = +1 point.
    Buy Her Flowers = +1 point.
    Take Her Out To Her Favorite Restaurant = +1 point.

    Leave Toilet Seat Up = -1,000,000 points.
    Step Over Mess Instead of Noticing It And Cleaning It Up = -3,000,000,000 points.
    Fail to Accurately Predict Downpour = -1,000,000,000,000,000 points.

    I mean, I knew going in that I'd never be in the positive.

    Gorgeous! I really like this one. :lovestruc
    :thanks:
     

    docsoliday1

    DIS Dad #834 Cubs, Dolphins fan forever
    Joined
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    Soarin' and Mission: Space both were must-do's for us before. Both of them really took step back with the recent "upgrades".
    ::yes::

    We'll hold out for the center seat next time, but I still felt there was less sense of flying in the new version.
    Front row center is worth waiting for. Agreed, it's more international, but not nearly as good.

    Gary Sinise had that Apollo 13 connection going. Added a little sense of authenticity that the nameless actors don't.
    I thought he was also in from earth to the moon. If you've never seen it, I recommend it.

    True. Much like Avatar, I'm sure it will be FP or bust.
    Next time y'all are down, give me a holler...I have a few things in my bag of tricks.

    He hasn't reached his "dork" phase yet.
    Good for him he's not like me. I never had a non-dork stage.

    You can never have too many inside jokes.
    If it's done on the bridge, wouldn't that be an outside joke?

    On the flip side, we can handle the heat better.
    True.

    First mistake of the year!
    Why do I doubt that?

    I'm the husband. All of my mistakes are remembered forever, to be brought up at any time in perpetuity.
    Truer words were never spoken.

    Whatever. I'm no worse than the guys on TV.
    Okay, now truer words were never spoken.

    You gotta get the cronut. They're wonderful.
    I've had it, just not from there.

    It's just so...meh. It makes me sad, because I loved the California version.
    ::yes::
     

    Captain_Oblivious

    DIS Dad #257
    Joined
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    Yes. And it's so easy. You get to the first person and say "We'd like center, top, please" (I prefer top so no dangling feet in your line of vision) and chances are they'll say "Tell it to the next CM". Do it again and you might have to wait... a whole 5 minutes... or nothing at all.
    I will definitely have to try that next time. If we don't spend all day waiting in line for the Guardians coaster.

    You have kids and you ask this????
    What was I thinking?

    I thought it was an ingrown mustache.
    :rotfl2: and Ew.

    Huh. Never knew that. They didn't have that when I did a mission there... about 2-3 years ago.
    It's been there the whole time--I remember it from when the big kids were little. There are several "stops" for each mission in a particular country, and depending on how many people are doing a mission at once, their algorithm will parse out the crowds to various stops. I think you usually skip one or two during the course of a "mission".

    Butchart Gardens, Victoria (Vancouver Island), BC.
    Thanks! Looks like I will be in that vicinity a couple of times over the next 2 years so maybe I'll get the chance to see it.

    This is good. Now she has more ammunition. Nice to have variety.
    I have given her no shortage of ammunition.

    Nomination for saint-hood is in the mail.
    She should have gotten that many times over by now.

    Front row center is worth waiting for. Agreed, it's more international, but not nearly as good.
    One-and-done, I think.

    I thought he was also in from earth to the moon. If you've never seen it, I recommend it.
    I have not seen that yet, but would definitely like to.

    Next time y'all are down, give me a holler...I have a few things in my bag of tricks.
    Thanks, I'll try and remember this when we're back in a few years!

    Good for him he's not like me. I never had a non-dork stage.
    That makes two of us.

    If it's done on the bridge, wouldn't that be an outside joke?
    :scratchin :rotfl:

    Why do I doubt that?
    O ye of little faith.

    Truer words were never spoken.
    Okay, now truer words were never spoken.
    That's the one thing you can count on in these here TR's. Unvarnished truth. And exploding helicopters.
     
  • Captain_Oblivious

    DIS Dad #257
    Joined
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    Chapter 14: Compassionate Parenting 101


    It was our last day in the parks. If my feet could talk, they would have told you that they felt like we’d been there for a month. The rest of me felt like I’d been there for…oh, about 3 days or so. I swear time speeds up on Disney property.


    We managed to get ourselves up and on the bus to the Magic Kingdom in time to make it for Rope Drop. My parents would join us later, as would my brother’s family—their daughter had an important appointment that morning at the Bibbidy Bobbidy Boutique, which I was happy enough to miss out on.











    All of those early mornings and long days in the heat were starting to catch up with the little guy. I was hoping we wouldn’t be spending an entire day with Captain Crankypants. Julie was hoping for the same, and also hoping Drew would be in a good mood.








    We’d followed a plan of spending 3 days in the Magic Kingdom since it was Drew’s first trip. We thought that would be where he’d want to spend the most time. That was followed by 2 days at Epcot (which had been our favorite) and 1 day at the other parks. Looking back, I wish we’d had more time in Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom. I feel like we especially left meat on the bone at AK.


    Anyway, our plan was to head straight to 7DMT as the “warm-up” ride, which suits it perfectly. But we had a FP for it later in the day, and with Drew acting grumpy, we decided to let him choose what ride we were going to do first. He chose Buzz Lightyear, which had quickly become one of his favorites. I was good with that—after all, I had unfinished business there.


    As we walked through the queue, I stretched and loosened my trigger-finger muscles. I like to do this by clenching my fist and then opening it, much as one does when someone “was using the bathroom” and then “tries to re-join their family” by cutting through the standby line. I was purely focused on my mission: defeating Zurg and saving the galaxy. This is not something to be taken lightly. Once again, I ran down the list of high-value targets in my mind.


    Robot’s left hand

    Top of the volcano

    Bottom of Zurg’s ship


    Sarah was my co-pilot. I was trusting her to keep the ship steady, but she had no interest in flying and shooting at the same time. If I wanted to be a Galactic Hero, it was totally in my hands.


    But once again, I was just another space cadet.





    Maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we looked like we had fun.








    Note: Dave was pretty much done with this ride. He was struggling to find the right red dot, and…well, we sometimes get competitive in this family.


    We had an early FP for Space Mountain. Julie wanted no part of riding that again, so she took Drew off to Fantasyland while the big kids and I settled in for another trip through the galaxy, this time without laser cannons. Unfortunately, this time I forgot to hold my breath in the vacuum of space.





    We met back up with Julie and Drew, and when I found out where they had gone, I was even more thankful for Space Mountain.





    It was still early in the day and the crowds hadn’t picked up yet. We debated what to do next, and I pushed for another crack at Buzz Lightyear. The rest of the family may or may not have rolled their eyes at me. Except for Drew—he was all in.


    Once again, I climbed into my fighter ship. Red-Five, standing by. I tried to block out all distractions, but my mind was cluttered with other thoughts—were the others sick of this ride? How could we be at the end of our vacation already? Would we actually see my brother today?


    And then, like a light switch had been flipped, I blocked all of that out. I was suddenly in the Zone. Using The Force. Traveling to Infinity And Beyond. Mixing my Sci-fi Movie References.


    I switched off my targeting computer. Headquarters radioed back to ask what was wrong, but I told them it was nothing—I was trusting my instincts on this one. I began my attack run. Zurg’s ships tried everything—full shields, chaff, evasive maneuvers, cloaking devices—but suddenly, I couldn’t miss. I could almost hear Zurg whispering to himself: “The Force is strong with this one.”


    I hit the inside of the robot’s left hand.

    I blew the top off the volcano.

    And then, when you thought I couldn’t make any more painful movie metaphors, it was as though time slowed down and I could suddenly see The Matrix—one shot after another, laser-focused on Zurg’s spaceship.

    I blasted the crap out of the bottom of Zurg’s ship.


    And this was how the battle ended. Not with a bang, and not with a whimper either, but with electronic noises and blinking red numerals.





    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.





    I didn’t bother to go get my Galactic Hero button from the CM’s. For one thing, in the two minutes after the ride was over, my family was already tired of my obnoxious celebration. And for another, a true hero doesn’t broadcast his exploits. He merely picks up his weapon and heads to the next battle. The safety of his family is his true reward.


    But I have now been promoted, and no longer sit at the rank of Captain. You may refer to me as Galactic Hero Oblivious.


    Is there anything else you can do to top the achievement of saving the world? Well, sure—my kids wanted to have immediate revenge on me by forcing me to ride Splash Mountain with them.


    We all walked over to Frontierland together, and then the big kids and I got in line. The wait time was up to 30 minutes. Drew decided it looked too scary, so he and Julie went off to do…something. Maybe ride the train?


    The kids know that I am not a huge fan of big drops, which was of course why they wanted me to ride. I am even less of a fan of being called a chicken than I am of big drops, so I went along, even though it’s not my favorite ride in the world. It actually turned out to be a 40-minute wait, which was not a ton of fun.


    The ride itself is fine. I find it to be schizophrenic—ten minutes of happy woodland creatures singing happily (there’s a banjo in the song; it’s impossible to play a sad song on the banjo) and then they throw you off a cliff. It never looks that bad from the ground, but somehow from the top of the big hill it looks like it’s straight down. The part about drops that bothers me is the feeling that you’re coming out of your seat and will fall out of the boat (or whatever ride vehicle). I think this is why I like drops that go into turns, like on Expedition Everest. On that one, the centrifugal force keeps you in your seat so you don’t feel like you’re in imminent danger.


    Was that too nerdy? I feel like it was too nerdy.


    Anyway, I discovered that the drop bothers me less if I’m trying to think of something stupid to do for a camera pose. In this case, I figured I’d pretend like I was trying to get out of the raft, and David wanted to look like he was laughing at me. We both failed miserably, but at least it distracted me from the drop.





    It was now time for our Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Fastpass. The rest of my family had joined up with us, and we got to hear all about my niece’s makeover at the castle, which she loved. Now we could all go on the ride together (which makes what, 3 in total so far?).


    We were determined to get Drew on this ride somehow. We knew that if he’d just try it, he would love it. So we just grabbed his hand and got into line. We didn’t tell him what it was for.


    That didn’t stop him from asking, though. “What ride is this, Mommy?” “Is this a fast ride, Mommy?”


    Now, let’s take a step back. Julie and I are experienced parents. We have been doing this for 17 years now. If you combine the ages of all of our kids, we have 48 cumulative years of parenting experience and wisdom from which to draw. This is not our first rodeo, in other words.


    There comes a time in every kid’s life when you must teach him or her how to confront their fears head-on. We must be honest with them, and teach them to be honest with themselves. They must learn how to take risks, lest they be doomed to life as a meek shut-in, without adventure. Now, you can do this with tact. You can learn withhold information, so you’re not technically lying to your kid, but not giving him/her the whole truth, either. You can fib just a little in order to make it a little more appealing. For example:


    “What ride is this, Mommy?”

    “Uh…it’s a fun one. You’ll like it.” That’s how Julie started.


    “Is this a fast ride, Mommy?”

    “Well…it goes slow and fast.” Again, this demonstrates nice technique with a healthy amount of vagueness. This is technically a true statement.


    We continued making our way through the queue. And then the penny dropped for Drew.


    “Mommy…is this the fast train ride?”


    When asked a direct question like this, it demands a direct answer. Drew is a smart kid, and here he was savvy enough to eliminate any possible equivocation on the response. In essence, he was putting all of the cards on the table and demanding the truth.


    Julie drew from that wealth of knowledge, hard-won over 48 cumulative years of being a Mom.


    She set her pants ablaze* and bald-faced lied through her lying liar’s teeth.

    (*--Note: this is a figure of speech. No pants were harmed in the making of this Trip Report.)

    “Nope, this isn’t it!”


    Of course, Drew discovered our deception just a few short minutes later and started to get upset, but by that time we’d passed the point of no return and were ready to get on the ride, which was of course the whole point of lying to his face. We’ll be offering online sign-ups next month for our Master’s class in Compassionate Parenting to anyone who would like to take notes.

    You may have noticed that we did not maintain any consistency here. Earlier in the week, we were letting him skip rides he liked. We also forced him into 7DMT at one point. All I can say is that parenting decisions are made entirely in the moment based on their perceived needs of the child and the context at the time. In other words, we make it up as we go. Anyone who says differently is lying through their lying liar’s teeth.

    So Drew fussed and complained and told us he didn’t want to ride the train, and we forced him into the seat and the lap bar down on his lap, trapping him in place. Are you still taking notes?


    And then we were off.


    Next, we walked over to—I’m sorry, what’s that?


    Oh, you want to know what he thought of Thunder Mountain? I mean, it’s kind of anti-climactic. I was pretty much done with the story.


    Ok, fine.


    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD. Seriously, it’s the one he talks about the most. He loved it. It’s the first one he names when we ask him what he wants to do when we go back.





    So it took the whole week, but he conquered the ride.


    We took the raft over to Tom Sawyer’s Island, mostly because that was the one thing in the Magic Kingdom that we hadn’t done yet. I actually really like Tom Sawyer’s Island, and I hope they never change it. It’s a source of low-tech fun that still appeals to kids after so many years of technological advancements. The appeal of the island is simply exploring—the sense of “hey, what’s around this corner?”


    Is it boring for older kids and adults? By themselves, yes. But if you tell a little boy that he can climb through an old saw mill, bounce on a barrel bridge, take hidden pathways and explore a secret cave, he will never turn it down. And that will be true forever.














    Coming Up Next: We finally decide to ditch the kids. And I may try to wrap this up so it’s done before we leave on our next adventure.
     
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    piglet1979

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    It’s a source of low-tech fun that still appeals to kids after so many years of technological advancements. The appeal of the island is simply exploring—the sense of “hey, what’s around this corner?”
    This is the reason I do not like Tom Sawyer Island. Exploring in what feels like caves and what not scares me. I swear there will be snakes and that freaks me out. Though my kids did have fun here when they were little.

    It never looks that bad from the ground, but somehow from the top of the big hill it looks like it’s straight down. The part about drops that bothers me is the feeling that you’re coming out of your seat and will fall out of the boat (or whatever ride vehicle). I think this is why I like drops that go into turns, like on Expedition Everest. On that one, the centrifugal force keeps you in your seat so you don’t feel like you’re in imminent danger.
    This is me as well. I hate drops. But it the drop goes into a turn I am ok. I used to go to Cedar Point all the time as a kid. I would get in line for the Magnum only to talk myself out of it every summer. I don't go on roller coasters that go upside down either or back words or in the dark.
     

    docsoliday1

    DIS Dad #834 Cubs, Dolphins fan forever
    Joined
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    Chapter 14: Compassionate Parenting 101


    It was our last day in the parks. If my feet could talk, they would have told you that they felt like we’d been there for a month. The rest of me felt like I’d been there for…oh, about 3 days or so. I swear time speeds up on Disney property.
    The mind says go go go, but your body says no no no. I'm kinda glad your feet can't talk though...they'd probably say toe toe toe.

    We managed to get ourselves up and on the bus to the Magic Kingdom in time to make it for Rope Drop. My parents would join us later, as would my brother’s family—their daughter had an important appointment that morning at the Bibbidy Bobbidy Boutique, which I was happy enough to miss out on.
    Woo hoo...rope drop!


    Great pic!


    Not looking good for Captain Crankypants not being in play here.

    We’d followed a plan of spending 3 days in the Magic Kingdom since it was Drew’s first trip. We thought that would be where he’d want to spend the most time. That was followed by 2 days at Epcot (which had been our favorite) and 1 day at the other parks. Looking back, I wish we’d had more time in Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom. I feel like we especially left meat on the bone at AK.
    I enjoy all of the parks for different reasons, so I'd think on a time constrained trip, giving each park at least one day is best. For Drew, he'd like TSM, A$$ and ST. Doubt he'd like ToT, RNRC or SDD, the ones most folks flock to and prevent others from getting FPs. In AK, all except EE are possible for him. It's possible he might be too short for FOP.

    Anyway, our plan was to head straight to 7DMT as the “warm-up” ride, which suits it perfectly. But we had a FP for it later in the day, and with Drew acting grumpy, we decided to let him choose what ride we were going to do first. He chose Buzz Lightyear, which had quickly become one of his favorites. I was good with that—after all, I had unfinished business there.
    Good warm up. Zurg was humming the Ghostbusters theme "I ain't afraid of no Mark".


    Sarah was my co-pilot. I was trusting her to keep the ship steady, but she had no interest in flying and shooting at the same time. If I wanted to be a Galactic Hero, it was totally in my hands.
    Did you just say trusting her? Earning your login name yet again, eh?

    But once again, I was just another space cadet.
    And this has anything to do with the ride, how?



    Maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we looked like we had fun.


    Like that one.




    Note: Dave was pretty much done with this ride. He was struggling to find the right red dot, and…well, we sometimes get competitive in this family.
    Yeah, Dave doesn't look thrilled.

    We had an early FP for Space Mountain. Julie wanted no part of riding that again, so she took Drew off to Fantasyland while the big kids and I settled in for another trip through the galaxy, this time without laser cannons. Unfortunately, this time I forgot to hold my breath in the vacuum of space.
    And yet you survived?


    We met back up with Julie and Drew, and when I found out where they had gone, I was even more thankful for Space Mountain.


    ::yes::

    It was still early in the day and the crowds hadn’t picked up yet. We debated what to do next, and I pushed for another crack at Buzz Lightyear. The rest of the family may or may not have rolled their eyes at me. Except for Drew—he was all in.
    I'm positive from the previous photo, Dave was definitely not thrilled.

    Once again, I climbed into my fighter ship. Red-Five, standing by. I tried to block out all distractions, but my mind was cluttered with other thoughts—were the others sick of this ride? How could we be at the end of our vacation already? Would we actually see my brother today?


    And then, like a light switch had been flipped, I blocked all of that out. I was suddenly in the Zone. Using The Force. Traveling to Infinity And Beyond. Mixing my Sci-fi Movie References.


    I switched off my targeting computer. Headquarters radioed back to ask what was wrong, but I told them it was nothing—I was trusting my instincts on this one. I began my attack run. Zurg’s ships tried everything—full shields, chaff, evasive maneuvers, cloaking devices—but suddenly, I couldn’t miss. I could almost hear Zurg whispering to himself: “The Force is strong with this one.”
    :yoda:
    Confused you are. Concerned with the force, Zurg is not. Good laser, necessary it is. When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not.
    There is no try. Only do, or do not.


    Proud of you, we are young padawan.

    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.
    Know that idiot, we do.

    About time, it is.

    Now, let’s take a step back. Julie and I are experienced parents. We have been doing this for 17 years now. If you combine the ages of all of our kids, we have 48 cumulative years of parenting experience and wisdom from which to draw. This is not our first rodeo, in other words.
    I'm not adding up mine...I feel old enough already

    “Mommy…is this the fast train ride?”
    Good answer here would be...7 dwarves mine train is the fast train ride.

    When asked a direct question like this, it demands a direct answer. Drew is a smart kid, and here he was savvy enough to eliminate any possible equivocation on the response. In essence, he was putting all of the cards on the table and demanding the truth.


    Julie drew from that wealth of knowledge, hard-won over 48 cumulative years of being a Mom.


    She set her pants ablaze* and bald-faced lied through her lying liar’s teeth.

    (*--Note: this is a figure of speech. No pants were harmed in the making of this Trip Report.)

    “Nope, this isn’t it!”
    See above

    Of course, Drew discovered our deception just a few short minutes later and started to get upset, but by that time we’d passed the point of no return and were ready to get on the ride, which was of course the whole point of lying to his face. We’ll be offering online sign-ups next month for our Master’s class in Compassionate Parenting to anyone who would like to take notes.

    You may have noticed that we did not maintain any consistency here. Earlier in the week, we were letting him skip rides he liked. We also forced him into 7DMT at one point. All I can say is that parenting decisions are made entirely in the moment based on their perceived needs of the child and the context at the time. In other words, we make it up as we go. Anyone who says differently is lying through their lying liar’s teeth.
    Consistency is highly overrated. As a parent of 7, what works for one does not necessarily work for another, so it's where the term flying by the seat of your pants came from.

    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD. Seriously, it’s the one he talks about the most. He loved it. It’s the first one he names when we ask him what he wants to do when we go back.
    Not at all surprised. This would also have been a good parenting moment to reinforce with him "Drew, you must at least give each ride a try and ONLY THEN decide if you like it or not".

    The good thing is you can use this to your advantage in the future. "Remember how much you liked BTMRR? This is even better!!!"




    So it took the whole week, but he conquered the ride.
    :woohoo: and Finally!
     
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  • Terra Nova guy

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    their daughter had an important appointment that morning at the Bibbidy Bobbidy Boutique, which I was happy enough to miss out on.
    I can't blame you there. I've sat through it twice - one for each daughter. That was enough. Fine to do with your own kids once, but I can't imagine doing it every time.

    We’d followed a plan of spending 3 days in the Magic Kingdom since it was Drew’s first trip. We thought that would be where he’d want to spend the most time. That was followed by 2 days at Epcot (which had been our favorite) and 1 day at the other parks. Looking back, I wish we’d had more time in Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom. I feel like we especially left meat on the bone at AK.
    It a good plan, but I can see how a little more time at DHS and AK would be good.

    Robot’s left hand

    Top of the volcano

    Bottom of Zurg’s ship
    I generally forget everything after Robot's left hand and I get frustrated because I can't find my little blinking red dot.

    And this was how the battle ended. Not with a bang, and not with a whimper either, but with electronic noises and blinking red numerals.
    Well done! I have never come close myself.

    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.
    :rotfl2:

    I didn’t bother to go get my Galactic Hero button from the CM’s.
    If I ever get Galactic Hero, I think I will ask for a button.
    Although do they still do them? I thought I read they may not. Cut backs, you know. Gotta pay for Galaxy's Edge somehow.

    The part about drops that bothers me is the feeling that you’re coming out of your seat and will fall out of the boat (or whatever ride vehicle). I think this is why I like drops that go into turns, like on Expedition Everest. On that one, the centrifugal force keeps you in your seat so you don’t feel like you’re in imminent danger.
    This!

    Was that too nerdy? I feel like it was too nerdy.
    Erm...maybe, but considering your audience here, probably not.

    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD. Seriously, it’s the one he talks about the most. He loved it. It’s the first one he names when we ask him what he wants to do when we go back.
    Awesome! Great to hear he liked it. Always good to have another Big Thunder fan.

    We took the raft over to Tom Sawyer’s Island, mostly because that was the one thing in the Magic Kingdom that we hadn’t done yet. I actually really like Tom Sawyer’s Island, and I hope they never change it. It’s a source of low-tech fun that still appeals to kids after so many years of technological advancements. The appeal of the island is simply exploring—the sense of “hey, what’s around this corner?”
    I like it too. One of the most relaxing afternoons I had in Disney was me and youngest DD (back in 2014) exploring Tom Sawyer Island while DW and oldest DD were on Splash Mountain. I think I had the better time.
     

    pkondz

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    :rolleyes:

    It's been there the whole time--I remember it from when the big kids were little. There are several "stops" for each mission in a particular country, and depending on how many people are doing a mission at once, their algorithm will parse out the crowds to various stops. I think you usually skip one or two during the course of a "mission".
    Huh. I had no idea. Thought everyone had the same thing.

    Thanks! Looks like I will be in that vicinity a couple of times over the next 2 years so maybe I'll get the chance to see it.
    Well worth seeing.

    I have given her no shortage of ammunition.
    This I have no doubt.

    She should have gotten that many times over by now.
    ::yes::
     

    pkondz

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    Joined
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    If my feet could talk, they would have told you that they felt like we’d been there for a month.
    And you'd have the weirdest feet on the planet.

    The rest of me felt like I’d been there for…oh, about 3 days or so. I swear time speeds up on Disney property.
    <sigh>
    Yeah...

    You wait and wait and wait and... is this trip ever going to get here??? Until, Yay! It's here! We're finally go... it's over already?

    their daughter had an important appointment that morning at the Bibbidy Bobbidy Boutique, which I was happy enough to miss out on.
    I was so disappointed that this only started after my girls went to Disney.
    Such a shame.
    Truly.

    Like the shot with the light only on one side.

    I was hoping we wouldn’t be spending an entire day with Captain Crankypants. Julie was hoping for the same, and also hoping Drew would be in a good mood.
    :laughing:

    Looking back, I wish we’d had more time in Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom. I feel like we especially left meat on the bone at AK.
    There's only one sure thing about WDW.
    You can't do it all.

    As we walked through the queue, I stretched and loosened my trigger-finger muscles.
    Gotta prep. Totally understandable.

    I like to do this by clenching my fist and then opening it, much as one does when someone “was using the bathroom” and then “tries to re-join their family” by cutting through the standby line.
    :laughing:

    But once again, I was just another space cadet.
    Dude! You even stretched!

    Maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we looked like we had fun.


    ::yes::
    I'll give you that!

    Note: Dave was pretty much done with this ride. He was struggling to find the right red dot, and…well, we sometimes get competitive in this family.
    He does look a tad.... done.

    Unfortunately, this time I forgot to hold my breath in the vacuum of space.
    You just never learn, do you?

    :lmao: While your shot is pretty good and Dave's is even (unintentionally) funnier... Scotty is hilarious!

    We met back up with Julie and Drew, and when I found out where they had gone, I was even more thankful for Space Mountain.
    ::yes::

    I tried to block out all distractions, but my mind was cluttered with other thoughts—were the others sick of this ride? How could we be at the end of our vacation already? Would we actually see my brother today?
    Use the Force...

    And then, like a light switch had been flipped, I blocked all of that out. I was suddenly in the Zone. Using The Force.
    There it is.

    Hey!!! Nice! You did it! Congrats!

    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.
    :laughing: Poor Dave.

    I didn’t bother to go get my Galactic Hero button from the CM’s. For one thing, in the two minutes after the ride was over, my family was already tired of my obnoxious celebration
    So... you're saying you were too embarrassed or didn't know who to ask, huh?

    And for another, a true hero doesn’t broadcast his exploits. He merely picks up his weapon and heads to the next battle. The safety of his family is his true reward.
    Uh huh. Then what was all that writing about up there?

    But I have now been promoted, and no longer sit at the rank of Captain. You may refer to me as Galactic Hero Oblivious.
    Yessir. But your post count's going to go down to zero when you change the name.

    The wait time was up to 30 minutes.
    Not bad.

    The kids know that I am not a huge fan of big drops, which was of course why they wanted me to ride.
    ::yes::

    It actually turned out to be a 40-minute wait, which was not a ton of fun.
    Still not too bad for that ride.

    (there’s a banjo in the song; it’s impossible to play a sad song on the banjo)
    Uh huh. And just what exactly do you think of when you hear the Deliverance tune?

    The part about drops that bothers me is the feeling that you’re coming out of your seat and will fall out of the boat (or whatever ride vehicle). I think this is why I like drops that go into turns, like on Expedition Everest. On that one, the centrifugal force keeps you in your seat so you don’t feel like you’re in imminent danger.
    Don't worry. If you fall out Julie will be fine.

    Anyway, I discovered that the drop bothers me less if I’m trying to think of something stupid to do for a camera pose.
    ::yes:: Found that out a few years ago.

    While you guys aren't bad... the lady in front nailed it.

    Now, let’s take a step back. Julie and I are experienced parents. We have been doing this for 17 years now. If you combine the ages of all of our kids, we have 48 cumulative years of parenting experience and wisdom from which to draw. This is not our first rodeo, in other words.
    Uh, huh...

    There comes a time in every kid’s life when you must teach him or her how to confront their fears head-on. We must be honest with them, and teach them to be honest with themselves. They must learn how to take risks, lest they be doomed to life as a meek shut-in, without adventure. Now, you can do this with tact. You can learn withhold information, so you’re not technically lying to your kid, but not giving him/her the whole truth, either. You can fib just a little in order to make it a little more appealing.
    Uh, huh...

    She set her pants ablaze* and bald-faced lied through her lying liar’s teeth.

    (*--Note: this is a figure of speech. No pants were harmed in the making of this Trip Report.)

    “Nope, this isn’t it!”
    :lmao:

    We’ll be offering online sign-ups next month for our Master’s class in Compassionate Parenting to anyone who would like to take notes.
    You'll make a fortune!

    Or go broke.
    One of those.

    In other words, we make it up as we go.
    There it is.
    That's the real truth to parenting
    that no kid gets.

    We don't know what we're doing.
    We're just trying to wing it best we can.

    Next, we walked over to—I’m sorry, what’s that?
    HEY!!!!

    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD.
    Yay!! :goodvibes

    So it took the whole week, but he conquered the ride.
    Good for Drew! :)

    We took the raft over to Tom Sawyer’s Island, mostly because that was the one thing in the Magic Kingdom that we hadn’t done yet. I actually really like Tom Sawyer’s Island, and I hope they never change it. It’s a source of low-tech fun that still appeals to kids after so many years of technological advancements. The appeal of the island is simply exploring—the sense of “hey, what’s around this corner?”
    ::yes::
    I finally got over there. I'm glad I did. :)

    Nice shot. :thumbsup2
     

    StarWarsMomofGirls!

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    Chapter 14: Compassionate Parenting 101
    This is going to be a good post!

    It was our last day in the parks. If my feet could talk, they would have told you that they felt like we’d been there for a month. The rest of me felt like I’d been there for…oh, about 3 days or so. I swear time speeds up on Disney property.
    So true! It goes by so fast when you are there.


    Poor little guy! Disney is exhausting.

    Note: Dave was pretty much done with this ride. He was struggling to find the right red dot, and…well, we sometimes get competitive in this family.
    It's funny i have gotten better at the ride, but then I have that one time, and I am just lost at it...

    This might be the best ride photo idea!

    I switched off my targeting computer. Headquarters radioed back to ask what was wrong, but I told them it was nothing—I was trusting my instincts on this one. I began my attack run. Zurg’s ships tried everything—full shields, chaff, evasive maneuvers, cloaking devices—but suddenly, I couldn’t miss. I could almost hear Zurg whispering to himself: “The Force is strong with this one.”
    :rotfl2:




    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.


    Bet ride photo ever. Crushing your teens dreams!

    Is there anything else you can do to top the achievement of saving the world? Well, sure—my kids wanted to have immediate revenge on me by forcing me to ride Splash Mountain with them.
    Only second to riding Small World?!?

    We continued making our way through the queue. And then the penny dropped for Drew.


    “Mommy…is this the fast train ride?”
    That is always the worst, the direct straight forward question that you don't really want to answer but know you should... Every parent has those moments! We have also all forced them on a ride that they didn't want to go on.
     

    Steppesister

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    It's just so...meh. It makes me sad, because I loved the California version.
    I did too. :( Really miss the orange grove scent as it brought back so many childhood memories.

    I'll never get tired of Disney eye candy.
    Keeps me going back.

    Well, you remember the Husband Scoring System:

    Put Toilet Seat Down = +1 point.
    Buy Her Flowers = +1 point.
    Take Her Out To Her Favorite Restaurant = +1 point.

    Leave Toilet Seat Up = -1,000,000 points.
    Step Over Mess Instead of Noticing It And Cleaning It Up = -3,000,000,000 points.
    Fail to Accurately Predict Downpour = -1,000,000,000,000,000 points.

    I mean, I knew going in that I'd never be in the positive.
    It's that last one that going to necessitate a do-over. You know that too, right?

    Whoa!! Nice shot! No people! Sweet!

    All of those early mornings and long days in the heat were starting to catch up with the little guy. I was hoping we wouldn’t be spending an entire day with Captain Crankypants. Julie was hoping for the same, and also hoping Drew would be in a good mood.
    LOL!! I think we've all hit the wall at some point and turned into our own versions of the Crankster.

    I feel like we especially left meat on the bone at AK.
    YUS!! Now there's talking some sense!

    As we walked through the queue, I stretched and loosened my trigger-finger muscles. I like to do this by clenching my fist and then opening it, much as one does when someone “was using the bathroom” and then “tries to re-join their family” by cutting through the standby line. I was pure
    :lmao:

    Unfortunately, this time I forgot to hold my breath in the vacuum of space.
    So you're saying no one heard your girlie screams?

    The rest of the family may or may not have rolled their eyes at me. Except for Drew—he was all in.
    You get off easy if that's what it takes to elicit a family eye roll.

    And some idiot in an Eagles t-shirt yelling like a drunked fool and raising his fists in triumph. And the poor kid next to him, who would really rather be anywhere else at this particular moment.
    :lmao: Take that, Boy! He'll be talking about that moment for about 50 years at every family gathering.

    But I have now been promoted, and no longer sit at the rank of Captain. You may refer to me as Galactic Hero Oblivious.
    .... who forgets to hold his breath in the vacuum of space.

    So it took the whole week, but he conquered the ride.
    :dancer:

    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD. Seriously, it’s the one he talks about the most. He loved it. It’s the first one he names when we ask him what he wants to do when we go back.
    Best part of the TR!
     

    wvgoofyfan

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    Nice update- now don't you go and make my "adopted" grandson grow up too fast! Compassionate parenting, my foot, you were flying by the seat of your pants and you know it...... good for you and way to go!
     

    Captain_Oblivious

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    This is the reason I do not like Tom Sawyer Island. Exploring in what feels like caves and what not scares me. I swear there will be snakes and that freaks me out. Though my kids did have fun here when they were little.
    Disney would never force you to have to deal with snakes...


    ...right?

    This is me as well. I hate drops. But it the drop goes into a turn I am ok. I used to go to Cedar Point all the time as a kid. I would get in line for the Magnum only to talk myself out of it every summer. I don't go on roller coasters that go upside down either or back words or in the dark.
    I hadn't tried going upside-down until I rode RnRC, and...it really wasn't bad at all. By the time you realize you're upside-down, it's already over with.

    The mind says go go go, but your body says no no no. I'm kinda glad your feet can't talk though...they'd probably say toe toe toe.
    I'm glad they don't talk as well, because they probably wouldn't shut up.

    Great pic!
    Thanks!

    Not looking good for Captain Crankypants not being in play here.
    Thankfully he rallied for that last day.

    I enjoy all of the parks for different reasons, so I'd think on a time constrained trip, giving each park at least one day is best. For Drew, he'd like TSM, A$$ and ST. Doubt he'd like ToT, RNRC or SDD, the ones most folks flock to and prevent others from getting FPs. In AK, all except EE are possible for him. It's possible he might be too short for FOP.
    Next time we go, I'm sure Drew will be tall enough for all of the rides. We'll probably spend less time at MK next time and more exploring the newer attractions at the other parks.

    Good warm up. Zurg was humming the Ghostbusters theme "I ain't afraid of no Mark".
    I've always been underestimated like that.

    Did you just say trusting her? Earning your login name yet again, eh?
    You don't think my teenage daughter would turn on me, do you? Don't answer that.

    And this has anything to do with the ride, how?
    You don't expect me to have a point, do you?

    And yet you survived?
    My brain seems to be used to a lack of oxygen.

    I'm positive from the previous photo, Dave was definitely not thrilled.
    He positively hated it by the end there.

    Confused you are. Concerned with the force, Zurg is not. Good laser, necessary it is. When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not.
    There is no try. Only do, or do not.
    And I did!

    Proud of you, we are young padawan.
    It was cool to cross that one off the bucket list.

    I'm not adding up mine...I feel old enough already
    I needed a calculator.

    Good answer here would be...7 dwarves mine train is the fast train ride.
    But it's not very fast...

    Consistency is highly overrated. As a parent of 7, what works for one does not necessarily work for another, so it's where the term flying by the seat of your pants came from.
    Yep. We try to at least be fair, even if the treatment is not the same. But it's so hard to do.

    Not at all surprised. This would also have been a good parenting moment to reinforce with him "Drew, you must at least give each ride a try and ONLY THEN decide if you like it or not".

    The good thing is you can use this to your advantage in the future. "Remember how much you liked BTMRR? This is even better!!!"
    This kid is so stubborn. Just because it worked once, there's no guarantee it will work again.

    What great parent hasn't done this?
    I don't know about the great ones, but we do it all the time!
     

    cinderaimee

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    But I have now been promoted, and no longer sit at the rank of Captain. You may refer to me as Galactic Hero Oblivious.
    :worship::worship:

    You may have noticed that we did not maintain any consistency here. Earlier in the week, we were letting him skip rides he liked. We also forced him into 7DMT at one point. All I can say is that parenting decisions are made entirely in the moment based on their perceived needs of the child and the context at the time. In other words, we make it up as we go. Anyone who says differently is lying through their lying liar’s teeth.


    Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now Drew’s MOST FAVORITIST RIDE IN THE WHOLE DISNEY WORLD. Seriously, it’s the one he talks about the most. He loved it. It’s the first one he names when we ask him what he wants to do when we go back.
    :love: Aw, I'm so glad he liked it! Congratulations on not scarring your child for life.
     

    Captain_Oblivious

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    I can't blame you there. I've sat through it twice - one for each daughter. That was enough. Fine to do with your own kids once, but I can't imagine doing it every time.
    I'm so glad I avoided that. I'm afraid I'd be so bored.

    It a good plan, but I can see how a little more time at DHS and AK would be good.
    Next time we go, Drew should be able to ride everything. So I'm guessing we will spend less time at MK.

    I generally forget everything after Robot's left hand and I get frustrated because I can't find my little blinking red dot.
    You can ride with my son next time!

    Well done! I have never come close myself.
    I was so proud! I don't care what the rest of the family says.

    If I ever get Galactic Hero, I think I will ask for a button.
    Although do they still do them? I thought I read they may not. Cut backs, you know. Gotta pay for Galaxy's Edge somehow.
    I have no idea. I didn't know who to ask and didn't want to waste everyone else's time searching. I figure I got a photo of my score, and that's good enough for me.

    Erm...maybe, but considering your audience here, probably not.
    Oh, thank goodness.

    Awesome! Great to hear he liked it. Always good to have another Big Thunder fan.
    I'm glad we forced him to go. We knew he'd love it if he just gave it a chance.

    I like it too. One of the most relaxing afternoons I had in Disney was me and youngest DD (back in 2014) exploring Tom Sawyer Island while DW and oldest DD were on Splash Mountain. I think I had the better time.
    I believe you. The only downside for us was that the fort was closed for some reason.

    Huh. I had no idea. Thought everyone had the same thing.
    I was looking forward to Drew's reaction to the yodeling beer steins on the Germany mission, but we never got that one. We did do another part that I hadn't seen before, though. I guess that setup rewards repeat efforts.
     

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