Winter Dec 25 - Jan 26 Direct Incentives

[VGCgroupie]

Does the D23 500 off apply to current members too? If so I'm about to join lmao for my Poly add on

Yep. Ends 12/31 though. There was some hiccups with guides not wanting to honor the $500 until you got your physical card in the mail. I would make sure your guide is on board with you just showing him proof of membership. There is a digital card but I guess that doesn’t always show up in the account.

 

[Smooth_Whiskey]

Had to unwatch this thread. Was about to make some DVC agent go through the process with me again until I back out right before we sign everything. That copper creek deal is really tempting me.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Had to unwatch this thread. Was about to make some DVC agent go through the process with me again until I back out right before we sign everything. That copper creek deal is really tempting me.

For your viewing pleasure. It’s my thread I need to update the top with the best deals https://www.disboards.com/threads/w...dvc-contract-credit-card-rewards-etc.3946321/

 

[Brittleebee]

If I buy direct right now and it’s past my banking window, will they bank my points into next year for me?

Conversely, how does it work when I would like to purchase a new use year? Would I be considered a new member?

 

[airjay75]

If I buy direct right now and it’s past my banking window, will they bank my points into next year for me?

Conversely, how does it work when I would like to purchase a new use year? Would I be considered a new member?

Yes, they'll bank them (although that is also a prime time to take advantage of Magical Beginnings).

I don't have direct experience with your second question, but I believe I've read from others that you will still qualify for member add-on pricing if you want a new UY.

 

[ark101]

I'd be delighted for you to be right, but I think I see other ways they'll be able to justify.

Put 2 bathrooms in 1 BR villas, 3 bathrooms in 2 BR villas (to explain why the points are more than RIV).

Keep the 5th sleeper in the studio (which, among MK resorts, is only found at VGF - I guess maybe the OG PVB studios too? I know it isn't in PIT/BLT/CCV/BRV studios).

Maybe make the GV even larger than VGF's (and definitely larger than RIV to justify the higher points there).

Sell the lazy river hard - the first lazy river since Beach Club, can you believe it!

Especially if they combine with CFW, they're going to need to have a lot of points to spread out those costs and bring down the dues which, as you point out, the A Frame cabins will surely eat up a lot of those. We'll all look at it, just like we look at the PIT point chart, and think, wow, that's a lot of points. And, it will sell. Presumably RIV will be sold out before LSL opens. Then, after PIT sells out, it will be the only WDW resort in active sales.

Of course, at a minimum, I don't think the points chart will be anything like the points charts for CCV 2 BRs and under which, for me at least, makes CCV all that more compelling. And, I'm guessing we won't see CCV go on direct sale again while LSL is in active sales. Oh boy, there I go again finding reasons to justify buying some direct CCV points.

Do you think Disney can charge LSL rooms more then RIV per night (cash prices) even with all the justification you mentioned? Personally, I dont think so. The A frame cabins will likely command high prices because of their uniqueness (and reflect in their point charts) but not the rooms in the main building. For that reason I think the point charts will be much closer to CCV than RIV in my opinion. Otherwise I do not have too much interest staying there for high points except maybe the A frames. Maybe others do.

 

[ark101]

Also I am very tempted to add at CCV direct but pains me after getting loads of points at VGF fire sale.

 

[VGCgroupie]

If I buy direct right now and it’s past my banking window, will they bank my points into next year for me?

Conversely, how does it work when I would like to purchase a new use year? Would I be considered a new member?

Yes they will bank them for you. You will get a 2nd membership number and it will show that contract separate from your other in your dashboard but you are still considered and existing member for all other purposes.

 

[juliebee]

Keep the 5th sleeper in the studio (which, among MK resorts, is only found at VGF - I guess maybe the OG PVB studios too? I know it isn't in PIT/BLT/CCV/BRV studios).

Boulder Ridge does have the 5th sleeper under the TV in the studio. You are correct that CCV does not.

 

[airjay75]

Do you think Disney can charge LSL rooms more then RIV per night (cash prices) even with all the justification you mentioned? Personally, I dont think so. The A frame cabins will likely command high prices because of their uniqueness (and reflect in their point charts) but not the rooms in the main building. For that reason I think the point charts will be much closer to CCV than RIV in my opinion. Otherwise I do not have too much interest staying there for high points except maybe the A frames. Maybe others do.

I guess we’ll see. New and shiny goes a long ways towards attracting money and attention in my experience.

 

[DanCali]

Just got caught up on this...

Given that most of the excitement is about a "sold out" resort that's being discounted from $255 to the "rack prices" of RIV and PVB, I guess there is no reason to get excited regarding the actively-sold resorts...

I will keep my dry powder invested for now at least until Feb 10. I may be in the market for retail Poly, but if I passed on the pricing until now (including Member Cruise deal) this will definitely not cut it!

 

[VGCgroupie]

Just got caught up on this...

Given that most of the excitement is about a "sold out" resort that's being discounted from $255 to the "rack prices" of RIV and PVB, I guess there is no reason to get excited regarding the actively-sold resorts...

I will keep my dry powder invested for now at least until Feb 10. I may be in the market for retail Poly, but if I passed on the pricing until now (including Member Cruise deal) this will definitely not cut it!

CCV base price is a bit high I agree, I guess DVC knows what they are doing with that one. CCV, is not restricted like all the active resorts aside from Poly. A 2 bed at Poly requires more points to use the membership if you want more than a studio. Pulling a random 4 nights in a 2 bed in May you need 53 more points at Poly than CCV. For me thats where CCV value lies.

 

[DanCali]

CCV base price is a bit high I agree, I guess DVC knows what they are doing with that one. CCV, is not restricted like all the active resorts aside from Poly. A 2 bed at Poly requires more points to use the membership if you want more than a studio. Pulling a random 4 nights in a 2 bed in May you need 53 more points at Poly than CCV. For me thats where CCV value lies.

They don't need to discount CCV much since they probably don't have a lot of points to sell. But keep in mind that at that $255 starting price, which has existed for anyone to buy, the demand has been close to zero (580 points sold in Oct).

The way I see it - If staying at CCV is great because the points charts is awesome, then to me this minor "sale" is neither here nor there - you can still save over $80/pt (~40%) by buying CCV resale - use that friendly points chart and and you also get an O14 resort in the process in case you want to use it elsewhere once in a while. If the argument is that CCV is great to have more unrestricted points for RIV stays, cruises, blue card etc, there are other ways to get that with the actively-sold resorts included unrestricted ones (Poly and Aulani).

 

[VGCgroupie]

They don't need to discount CCV much since they probably don't have a lot of points to sell. But keep in mind that at that $255 starting price, which has existed for anyone to buy, the demand has been close to zero (580 points sold in Oct).

The way I see it - If staying at CCV is great because the points charts is awesome, then to me this minor "sale" is neither here nor there - you can still save over $80/pt (~40%) by buying CCV resale - use that friendly points chart and and you also get an O14 resort in the process in case you want to use it elsewhere once in a while. If the argument is that CCV is great to have more unrestricted points for RIV stays, cruises, blue card etc, there are other ways to get that with the actively-sold resorts included unrestricted ones (Poly and Aulani).

There hasn't been any offers on CCV so I suspect that is partly why not much demand has been there and why some are excited for it. Granted it's not for everyone. Aulani is a hard sell due its much higher dues. (I love Aulani) But if home resort priority matters to a buyer I fully see the case for buying CCV even if the offer isnt a fire sale.

 

[RMDVC24]

If I buy direct right now and it’s past my banking window, will they bank my points into next year for me?

Conversely, how does it work when I would like to purchase a new use year? Would I be considered a new member?

We just added on a few weeks ago and were well past the banking deadline. I did the online chat on the DVC site when the points were loaded and they banked them instantly. No questions asked.

 

[AstroBlasters]

There hasn't been any offers on CCV so I suspect that is partly why not much demand has been there and why some are excited for it. Granted it's not for everyone. Aulani is a hard sell due its much higher dues. (I love Aulani) But if home resort priority matters to a buyer I fully see the case for buying CCV even if the offer isnt a fire sale.

If they can ROFR CCVs at $125-$135 and then flip it for $208…. It’s smart to test the demand waters, IMO.

 

[airjay75]

Here's a nice little comparison.

150 PVB vs. 150 CCV

With current incentives (before MB, discounts, CC cash back), you're looking at a cost of $33,900 for PVB vs. $34,350 for CCV. CCV dues are a touch higher ($8.33 vs. $9.02), but the contract is also 2 years longer. So, just doing the basic math of dividing that amount by the # of years left on the contract and adding the current dues rate, you're looking at a cost of $13.98/point/year at PVB and $14.47/point/year at CCV. And, as @VGCgroupie notes, points go a lot further at CCV than PVB.

So, if you were someone in the market for your blue card, don't really love PVB, and don't want to buy one of the restricted resorts, this is priced pretty competitively to PVB.

 

[Sandisw]

Please do not discuss contracts that are currently listed for sale.

 

[LittleBitGoofy]

Just chatted with our Guide. The D23 $500 discount does not apply for CCV, just the live/active resorts with that discount. So it's just the $26/pt off at 150 pts.

And yes, as other Guides noted, Magical Beginnings is available on CCV starting at 150 pts. She says the expansion to the non active inventory resorts was a recent update.

Still tempted. Still mulling over spreadsheets.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Here's a nice little comparison.

150 PVB vs. 150 CCV

With current incentives (before MB, discounts, CC cash back), you're looking at a cost of $33,900 for PVB vs. $34,350 for CCV. CCV dues are a touch higher ($8.33 vs. $9.02), but the contract is also 2 years longer. So, just doing the basic math of dividing that amount by the # of years left on the contract and adding the current dues rate, you're looking at a cost of $13.98/point/year at PVB and $14.47/point/year at CCV. And, as @VGCgroupie notes, points go a lot further at CCV than PVB.

So, if you were someone in the market for your blue card, don't really love PVB, and don't want to buy one of the restricted resorts, this is priced pretty competitively to PVB.

But…. PVB has less of a “drive off the lot” hit and lower annual expenses if you don’t hold until death or expiration….