There isn't any Disney Magic in this process!!

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Seriously? Picking a bone, really? I'm not here to pick a bone about anything. I'm here to help others have a good vacation,and to get tips on how to best plan mine. If a&e does, consistently no matter the time of year, have more widespread availability I will be nothing but thrilled for everyone.

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I'm thinking that in the not too distant future, this particular "bone" the FP+ opponents have been "picking" will be a thing of the past.

I thought you were Switzerland and not a FP+ opponent? Why are you taking offense?
 
I still don't understand why Disney can't:
1. Notify guests of the date and time their FP booking window will open when guests register in MDE.
2. Have the FP booking window open at the same time daily. Maybe 9pm EST?
3. Have ADR's and FP's open on the same day so that guest can book everything at once.

IMO if Disney implemented these changes, it would really improve the guest experience.

Times differ based on location. Sure, it's sensible to provide a local-based time, but there will still be complaints like not being specific to the guest's location.
Yeah, 9 PM would make a great day all of sense.
Guests can book everything at once. Nobody is forced to reserve dining six months in advance. It's available then, but not required. You're still working with two different booking systems, though.
 

What is not magical is getting everyone up on vacation, or choosing RD over what we want to do instead-but that's just us. 15 minutes (by one person) to cover our entire trip for everybody in it could be at 3AM for all I care.

Then again we just made ours the night before XMAS DAY, so I should talk I guess.

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Am I reading this wrong, or do I understand some of the posts on this thread to be saying that some people don't like having the ability to make FP reservations in advance at all?

Or, does everyone like being able to make reservations in advance and the only problem is the time of day they have to be made or how far in advance they have to be made?
 
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What is not magical is getting everyone up on vacation, or choosing RD over what we want to do instead-but that's just us. 15 minutes (by one person) to cover our entire trip for everybody in it could be at 3AM for all I care.

Then again we just made ours the night before XMAS DAY, so I should talk I guess.

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That does nothing to prove the point of the majority of the discussion in here about A&E (and occasionally 7DMT) being hard to get unless you get your FP+ at midnight.

At the risk of sounding like a crackpot, I wonder if Disney has the resources to re-theme a building...

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The point is re-theming can't be done instantaneously. See: Maelstrom being re-themed for 2016 opening.
 
I don't like making them advance for the reasons listed a page or two back. I would much rather have the old FP system back. If they want a compromise, though, my idea is that you don't book for FP+ reservations until the day-of. Another great compromise would be that you could have three out at a time. So, you use your FP+ for Soarin, you go get another one even though you haven't used your FP+ for Turtle Talk or Spaceship Earth, yet. oh, and no kiosks required. It needs to all be able to be done from your phone.
 
That does nothing to prove the point of the majority of the discussion in here about A&E (and occasionally 7DMT) being hard to get unless you get your FP+ at midnight.

Who said I was responding to the majority of the folks clinging to the A/E meet and greet as a reason this is bad? Response for the OP.
 
For years, complaints on these forums used to stem from not being able to get an FP for a particular attraction within hours or even minutes of arriving at the park.

Now, complaints are about not being able to get an FP for a particular attraction within 60 days of arriving at the park.

I'm still trying to get my head around how that's an improvement.


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It's an improvement to me because it allows me to plan. If you're already in the park and all the fast passes are gone (or the return time is 10 hours later) what are you going to do? If you switch parks, not only is that a time suck, many of the most popular attractions in that park will be gone already too.
 
I don't like making them advance for the reasons listed a page or two back. I would much rather have the old FP system back. If they want a compromise, though, my idea is that you don't book for FP+ reservations until the day-of. Another great compromise would be that you could have three out at a time. So, you use your FP+ for Soarin, you go get another one even though you haven't used your FP+ for Turtle Talk or Spaceship Earth, yet. oh, and no kiosks required. It needs to all be able to be done from your phone.

That's what I thought. And I'm not singling you out because there are a lot of other posters who have talked about wanting each day to be a "clean slate" with the entire allotment of FPs for every attraction up for grabs on a first come, first served basis.

Somebody last week told me in no uncertain terms that EVERYONE likes being able to make FP reservations in advance.
 
Am I reading this wrong, or do I understand some of the posts on this thread to be saying that some people don't like having the ability to make FP reservations in advance at all?

Or, does everyone like being able to make reservations in advance and the only problem is the time of day they have to be made or how far in advance they have to be made?

I think it is a combination.

The people who don't like the ability to make FP reservations at all are the anti-fast passers.
The people who don't like the new FP+ system are the anti-fast pass plusers.
The people who don't like the time of the day they need to make their FP reservations are the anti-fast pass midnight reservationists.
The people who don't like Disney at all and just come here to spread their angst and direct that angst towards the entire fast pass system, old and new, are the anti-Disney fast pass plusers midnight reservationists.

It's like a Dr. Suess book.
 
I think it is a combination.

The people who don't like the ability to make FP reservations at all are the anti-fast passers.
The people who don't like the new FP+ system are the anti-fast pass plusers.
The people who don't like the time of the day they need to make their FP reservations are the anti-fast pass midnight reservationists.
The people who don't like Disney at all and just come here to spread their angst and direct that angst towards the entire fast pass system, old and new, are the anti-Disney fast pass plusers midnight reservationists.

It's like a Dr. Suess book.

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OP I totally agree with you! sounds very frustrating! ADRs used to open at 7:00 AM...that was much easier to deal with than 1 AM! yikes! I hope you got the FP ressies you were looking for! :)
 
Copied this from a post of mine in a previous thread about the same topic.....

This thread has given me some thoughts. I'm not calling anyone out, just offering another option.....

What does it matter SO MUCH that a particular experience MUST be done? Are people seriously spending thousands of dollars and multiple days/weeks at a destination just for one approximately 5 minute experience? Has anyone thought of not staying up all hours waiting for the window and then seeing what there is when you wake up? Then if whatever is not available you either tell the person that wanted it, "I'm sorry but there were no FPs left for that, so your options are we can spend an entire park day waiting in line for that ONE thing OR we can spend the rest of the day checking out other fun things to do." Or if it is a child that didn't know to begin with, you don't tell them anything and then if they see at a park, you explain what happened.

If you want to tell me that this event is "ALL" your party wanted to do or "were really really looking forward to" and you can't do without, then perhaps you are creating people that are spoiled to having all of their expectations met. Call me crazy, but not everyone gets EXACTLY what they want EXACTLY when they want it and EXACTLY how they want it to happen.

There are how many people staying on disney property and in the parks on any one day? Hundreds? thousands? Millions? Do the math....people have different FP opening days than you. Not everyone with reservations/tickets is going to get to ride/meet "exhibit a" on May 1, 2015. They might not even get to do it during their time there from May 1-May 5. That's when you have an alternate plan.

I may be thinking crazy, but I am betting there are other things to do at Disney. I dare say there is even more than one park to find things to do! And resorts too!
 
Well as sad as that may be, Disney is right to not avoid progress just because some guests prefer outdated paper printed tickets to computers.
You specifically mentioned the use of phones in the park and that was what I was talking about. It would've been nice if Disney had found a way to implement whatever system without increasing guest iphone use while they were in the parks. I know guests don't have to use their phones in the parks just like they don't have to use FP+. Yes, I know every company is increasing their reliance on technology, but that doesn't mean it's beneficial.
 
It's an improvement to me because it allows me to plan. If you're already in the park and all the fast passes are gone (or the return time is 10 hours later) what are you going to do? If you switch parks, not only is that a time suck, many of the most popular attractions in that park will be gone already too.

Here's a specific example that shows what I think is a major improvement with the FP+ system.

On our upcoming trip (Saturday before Easter to the following Saturday), we decided that we would eat dinner at BOG for the first time (we have had lunch there.) So, I made a reservation for 5:30 PM one evening. With that reservation in mind, I have now been able to book a FP for 7DMT that we can use just before dinner, one for A&E for after dinner (that was my adult daughters' choice not mine) and one for Wishes at 9 PM, which I am doing in part to see if that FP improves the experience of viewing Wishes.

So, now we know that from 4 PM on that day we have the dinner reservation we want and 3 attractions we want to enjoy. The rest of our day is totally unplanned, so we don't have to decide where we want to go that morning until the time comes, and we will probably make that decision based on what we have done up to that point. More likely than not we will start the day at a different park, like maybe DAK where we can arrive at 8 PM, do all of the major attractions without FPs or long waits, and then spend the busier middle part of the day strolling the animal trails, seeing the Flights of Wonder show, and things like that.

With the paper FP system, if we arrived at the MK in the middle or later part of the afternoon at that time of year, our chances to get a FP for a popular attraction for any time between 4 and 9 PM would be slim to none. Even if we planned to be in the park all day (which we rarely do), we would have had to be in just the right places at the right times to get 3 FP's that wouldn't interfere with our dinner plans.

I realize that not everyone sees these opportunities as an improvement. But anyone who can't see how FP+ can be an improvement for a lot of guests is simply choosing not to look.
 
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