The Running Thread - 2018

ATTQOTD: I run when it is convenient. On the weekends I can get out early and beat the heat. Yesterday, it was after work (3pm) that fit in my schedule so it was 80 degrees. This was my first really hot run this season, and yes, it sucked! But I will continue to run in the afternoon most weekdays, and eventually I will hopefully acclimatize. Also I drink Gatorade/PowerAde when it's hot, as opposed to just water.
 
QOTD: Lets stay with the current discussion about running in the heat today. Even if you do not run during the hottest part of the day, it isnt uncommon especially for those of us along the gulf coast to wake up to temps near 80 and high RH% or late afternoon temps still very warm. What are some things you do or would suggest to others to make these runs safe and avoid potential health issues?

ATTQOTD: Staying hydrated is the single most important thing I would suggest! Drink plenty of water and a sports drink here and there. The time of day of morning vs afternoon each have its + and -, you just have to pick your poison. Run in singlets or moisture wicking shirts and have access to water along your route is really the best option IMO. I'll add I am not above running through someones sprinkler system for a quick cool off lol. For those who have a pool, I think it would be glorious to run a nice little 5 miler and continue running right into the backyard and cannon ball into the pool on a hot day! Shoes removed at the last moment of course.
 

Regarding physical activity in the summer heat, I'd just encourage everyone to be smart and be safe! You need to be aware not just of the danger of dehydration, but also hyponatremia, the drop in sodium levels in your blood. This can result when an athlete sweats excessively and replaces fluid loss with water only, causing the sodium in the blood to become diluted. In extreme cases, this can be fatal. Be mindful of the risks of prolonged exercise when it's hot, and use a sports drink or snacks with sodium and other electrolytes if you're going to be training for an hour or more in high heat. Let's all be safe out there!

QOTD: Lets stay with the current discussion about running in the heat today. Even if you do not run during the hottest part of the day, it isnt uncommon especially for those of us along the gulf coast to wake up to temps near 80 and high RH% or late afternoon temps still very warm. What are some things you do or would suggest to others to make these runs safe and avoid potential health issues?

I wanted to ask for more detail on BikeFan's Post, so I am happy to see LSUlakes' follow up. Similar to the above post, I have noticed salt residue and a potent ammonia smell on my running clothes in the past couple of weeks. As I am just over an hour and much of the commentary on nutrition states it comes into play after the 10K mark, I have not considered this topic all that much for my current running. So, is this where some sort of salty/electrolyte drink come into play earlier than the hour/distance than they would otherwise? I am leery of over hydrating as there are not really restroom options on any of my runs currently- parks do not open theirs until Memorial Day and it is a mile off my track for lunch runs.
 
QOTD: Lets stay with the current discussion about running in the heat today. Even if you do not run during the hottest part of the day, it isnt uncommon especially for those of us along the gulf coast to wake up to temps near 80 and high RH% or late afternoon temps still very warm. What are some things you do or would suggest to others to make these runs safe and avoid potential health issues?
I'm just going to echo that hydration is key!!! I ensure that I drink at least 3 litres of water throughout the day, leading up to my run and that I carry an electrolyte beverage with me during. I have noticed a marked improvement in my ability to cope with the humidity since ensuring these two things. As well, running a course where you have access to more water to dump on your head, certainly helps too!
 
ATTQOTD: Increased electrolytes. I drink plenty of water normally, but I do add 1L of an electrolyte water on run days and will carry that or Tailwind/Skratch on shorter runs. If running at home, I always have a glass of water waiting on the counter and make sure I finish that pretty quickly.
 
Clearly more bugs means a more unpleasant run, but one can't just compare the number of bugs on one's body to another person, since there are significant factors that vary with the individual that would cause encounters with more or fewer bugs. Specifically: how fast one runs, the duration of the run, and the individual's cross-section area. Other factors, such as the tilt of the body and presence/absence of hat are considered to be second-order effects.
Might I inquire about other, perhaps more qualitative, factors and how they may/may not fit into the equation? I'm specifically concerned with the Burning Tiny Monsters of Death, aka Fire Ants, and their partners in crime, Flying Tiny Monsters of Disease, mosquitoes. While ingestion or stuckness of either is rare, they both have a track record of leaving one with long-lasting, painful reminders of their presence.

I had a bee fly into my mouth during a run last week. That was a giant nope.

(I managed to spit it out before it stung me. Not sure if it survived. On the other hand, my pace certainly picked up after that.)
:scared1:
 
QOTD: Lets stay with the current discussion about running in the heat today. Even if you do not run during the hottest part of the day, it isnt uncommon especially for those of us along the gulf coast to wake up to temps near 80 and high RH% or late afternoon temps still very warm. What are some things you do or would suggest to others to make these runs safe and avoid potential health issues?
ATTQOTD: Oh boy, this is my area of expertise! :thumbsup2 In addition to living in FL, I've had heat stroke twice, increasing my susceptibility to further heat stress issues. Here's how I manage:

1. SLOW DOWN. I run by perceived effort, not my numbers on a watch/app. If I feel overheated, overexerted, I know I'm going too fast and I walk slowly for a while, then resume walk/running at a slower pace.

2. SUNSCREEN! I slather it on pre-run, and if I'll be out there for more than 1.5 hours, I bring a little sunscreen stick to reapply.

3. FLUIDS - on the inside! I drink water all day, every day, but in summer, I add Nuun into the mix. The day before a long, hot run, I'll drop a Nuun tab into a 20oz bottle and sip on that through the afternoon. Long runs get a mix of Tailwind and Nuun throughout the run and Nuun after. Short runs get just Nuun. I regularly lose 5-8% of my body weight in sweat on summer runs, so hydration with adequate electrolytes is a big, big deal!

4. SHADE! I'm fortunate to live in an area with lots and lots of big ol' oak trees, so if I time my run for early morning or evening, when the sun is low, 90% of my route will be shaded. I'll even run a certain 1/4 mile section of a park back and forth, over and over, because it stays shaded all day. The temp in the shade seriously feels 15-20* cooler to me.

5. FLUIDS - on the outside! I wear a bandanna tied around my wrist and stop at public water fountains regularly: take bandanna off, soak it in cool(ish - a few degrees cooler than body temp, at least) water, squeeze over my head, down limbs, down neck. Repeat as many times as necessary to bring core temp down a bit. Sometimes I'll take the wet bandanna and drape it across my shoulders/back of my neck and run like that for a while.

6. TAKE IT INDOORS OR TO THE POOL! Some weeks, my body has just hit its limit and can't take another run in the heat, so I'll do a short run inside on the treadmill, or outside in the pool for deep water running. When I need to start building long run mileage in Sept-Oct (still summer here), I'll do 8ish miles outside, then do the remainder inside.

7. RECOVERY! I take it very easy after long, hot runs. I stay inside in the AC, keep sipping fluids, and rest. That part is really critical for the long-term, since the extreme heat here lasts 6 or more months: I find heat stress to be a cumulative thing.
 
I'm a sweater, and when I can see the white lines in my clothes after a run from the salt I know I need to increase my intake.
I am too... I have salt lines on my clothes from pretty much every run when it's warm, and my dog loves to lick me clean when I come home. Doggie margarita. :D I have some race photos from one HM in November where it was pretty warm for that day up here in NH where I was wearing a black shirt, but in all my race photos it looks like there is a reflection coming off my shoulders. I realized that it was all the salt on my black tshirt turning it gray and making it look like it was shimmering. :D
 
@LSUlakes

Could you please add the following races for me?

June
16 - DopeyBadger - Hot2Trot HM (1:29:59 / N/A)

Goal #70/102 - Run a sub 90 min HM

August
18 - DopeyBadger - Madison Mini HM (1:24:59 / N/A)

Goal #69/102 - Run a sub 85 min HM

October
07 - DopeyBadger - Chicago Marathon (2:59:59 / N/A)

Goal #36/102 - Run the Chicago Marathon
Goal #6/102 - Run a World Marathon Major under 3 hours
Goal #2/102 - Run a sub 3 hour marathon
Goal #1/102 - Qualify for the Boston Marathon
 
I wanted to ask for more detail on BikeFan's Post, so I am happy to see LSUlakes' follow up. Similar to the above post, I have noticed salt residue and a potent ammonia smell on my running clothes in the past couple of weeks. As I am just over an hour and much of the commentary on nutrition states it comes into play after the 10K mark, I have not considered this topic all that much for my current running. So, is this where some sort of salty/electrolyte drink come into play earlier than the hour/distance than they would otherwise? I am leery of over hydrating as there are not really restroom options on any of my runs currently- parks do not open theirs until Memorial Day and it is a mile off my track for lunch runs.

[Disclaimer: I am NOT a doctor or any sort of medical expert!] From what I've read on hyponatremia, all the fatal cases have involved athletes doing intense physical activity for many hours in intense heat, so I'd guess your risk level is still low if you're only out for an hour. @PrincessV had a bunch of great tips - review and follow those and you should be OK. One of the best tips is just to take it easy. I rarely do long runs when it's 80+, and almost never do workouts (speed work or tempos) in the same. I'll hit the treadmill for those. I know I'm much slower in the heat, and that's fine - it's nothing to worry about. You really just need to listen to your body - if you start experiencing dizziness, mental confusion, headaches, and weakness, slow down or stop, and seek fluids and shade. Don't try to be a hero in the heat!
 
@Waiting2goback - I love your daily inspirational posts!

ATTQOTD: In the summer is statistically when I give up on training because of the heat. Let's see how well I do on my training plan that has me going from next week until September. Hahaha. @PrincessV had some great tips that I will definitely incorporate (especially the bandanna trick!). Also, @LSUlakes idea of jumping immediately into the pool afterwards -- I already discussed with my husband that after my long runs on the weekends I will probably go directly into the lake to cool off. I bought a hydration belt to prepare for these hot summer months. Basically my game plan is: early mornings, lots of water & nuun, cool down in the lake or pool, and take it inside if I need to (thank you gym membership).
 
Greenbrier Half Marathon Recap from May 12th. GOAL TIME: 2 Hours GOAL accomplished??: Not even close, 2:10:56

Excited to try this event as it is part of the "Resort Races Collection" series of running events held at upscale resorts like Pinehurst, Sea Island, Pebble Beach, and the Greenbrier.

Left my house at 2:30 am Saturday morning and drove 3 hours to White Sulphur Springs, WV to the Greenbrier resort. Parked across the street and rode shuttle bus to the resort.
Beautiful hotel and grounds. Packet pickup was smooth and quick. We were allowed use of the spacious golf clubhouse locker rooms during the event. Real bathrooms and lots of great old photos of presidents and golfers through the years. Water and coffee available before the start and a DJ/announcer kept things hopping.

I ran a quick 1 mile to get legs warmed up after the long drive.

Half Marathon started promptly at 7:00 AM. 10k and 5k started a few minutes later.

The first half mile included a 75 foot uphill climb followed by a 200 foot downhill. We had a nice stretch of running on the cart paths of the golf course but there really was no escape from the constant elevation changes. According to my garmin, the race had 755 feet of elevation gain but it felt like a lot more. I don't really train on big hills and it showed.
Maintained goal pace through first 5 miles. Temps already in the 70s with high humidity forced a strategy change to slower paces. Some of the uphills were so steep I had difficulty "walking" up them!

So it wasn't my day to set a PR or even make my goal. But I finished and made the best of it and learned a valuable lesson to never, ever, run in West Virginia again, LOL.

Nice medal, Vineyard Vines cloth bag, shirt, and champage flute with event logo given to all finishers. After party was held at the pool with live band, french toast, pastries, fresh fruit, beer, champage, and mimosas! What a great idea to have a finisher party at a pool!

Drove home and took it easy rest of the day.

It's a nice event especially for those that ended up staying at the resort for the weekend. I attached a few pictures if you want to see more.
Thanks for reading. greenbrier 4.jpg Greerbrier 2.jpg greenbrier 5.jpg greenbrier 3.jpg
 
ATTQOTD: The best suggestions for running in high heat and humidity have already been given. Slow down, give yourself time to acclimate, hydrate beforehand and during the run. The biggest thing is to be self aware. Know what you should feel like under given conditions and be sensitive to changes in that state and be ready to react and cut a run short, slow down, or take a break. I don't remember seeing posted yet, so apologies if I'm repeating, I learned a great trick for the heat from @DopeyBadger. Keep freezer pops on hand and eat a couple before a hot run to start out with a little lower core temp to help with performance and after a hot run eat a couple to help cool your core back down quickly. I'm not good at the pre-run usage, but I have found having a couple post-run helps get things back to normal more quickly.
 
QOTD: Lets stay with the current discussion about running in the heat today. Even if you do not run during the hottest part of the day, it isnt uncommon especially for those of us along the gulf coast to wake up to temps near 80 and high RH% or late afternoon temps still very warm. What are some things you do or would suggest to others to make these runs safe and avoid potential health issues?
Hydrate. That’s all I really have to contribute to the heat discussion.
 














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