The Running Thread - 2018

Random Satuday Question not related to running. We are going back to WDW for the MNSSHP and have been playing with the idea of family theme costume. I'm working on making a case for Carousel of Progress, and wonder should everyone dress according to the same scene, or everyone pic there person from one of the scenes.
LOVE this idea! I think either way works. Make it happen!!

Any advice on alternative ways to get those benefits without having to meaningfully weight-bear with your shoulders? Thanks!
Power massager! No weight-bearing invovled.

Question for those of you that have done Dopey, or any runDisney challenge race. Is it possible to get the challenge medals without a finish time in the actual races? In other words, if someone were to take the chip off their bib, is there any way they could still get their Dopey medal?
Theoretically, maybe... assuming they don't check to see chip finish results. They do (supposedly) check to make sure the person getting the challenge medal/s' face matches the picture taken at bib pick-up, but I've not seen any indication that they also check finish results from previous races.

QOTD: Do you or anyone you know run during the hottest part of the day during summer? If so why do you choose that time?
ATTQOTD: Not on purpose, really - it just happens that after work, in the evenings, is the best time for me to do short runs, and in summer, that's often also the hottest time of the day. BUT, it feels "cooler" than midday because I can run almost entirely in shade form trees and buildings when the sun is low.
 
QOTD: Do you or anyone you know run during the hottest part of the day during summer? If so why do you choose that time?

I was wondering about all of you from warmer climates as I was wondering how I would get long runs in this summer. I have had a few runs so far this spring where it was above 70 degrees and humid and I did not enjoy it at all. I tried running in a hat to sop up the sweat that was pouring in my eyes, and threw it off about a mile in as I thought I was channeling Lewis Black's rendition of anger. I also found I have nowhere to wipe sweat if I wear a sleeveless shirt. And in between cursing about needing to run in lab goggles and carry a towel, I wondered how people from the South or Southwest run at all! Way to go, folks!
 
You get the challenge medals at the end through a special tent. You walk over a mat (I think), I assumed it popped up that you finished and showed your picture from the expo to prove it's really you at that moment. But people's chips fail so maybe as long as you are wearing the bib you are fine. If you get swept you aren't allowed in that area anyway so only people who really finished would be coming through. Why is someone taking off their chip though?

Don't they check your times from the other races though to make sure you finished those? This person has been faking Disney races for some time now and is now claiming to have finished Dopey but doesn't have one finished race time to prove they were even there.


QOTD: Do you or anyone you know run during the hottest part of the day during summer? If so why do you choose that time?

ATTQOTD: My dad would run during his lunch break up until about a year ago. His running days are over now as he has started having some knee issues. For him, it was just a convenient time to get in a run. I for one, just cant make myself do it. lol

In 2014 I did run in August during the hottest parts of the day on purpose because I had been reading about how hot and humid the 2013 TOT race was and I was trying to be as prepared as I could be for the 2014 race in the event we got similar weather. I figured if I could handle 95' and MA humidity, usually about 80%, then I could handle FL humidity at night.

Luckily we got much better weather. I am not opposed to running in the hottest temps, my work schedule and 4 kids usually force my runs to early morning or night time after they are settled.
 
I was wondering about all of you from warmer climates as I was wondering how I would get long runs in this summer. I have had a few runs so far this spring where it was above 70 degrees and humid and I did not enjoy it at all. I tried running in a hat to sop up the sweat that was pouring in my eyes, and threw it off about a mile in as I thought I was channeling Lewis Black's rendition of anger. I also found I have nowhere to wipe sweat if I wear a sleeveless shirt. And in between cursing about needing to run in lab goggles and carry a towel, I wondered how people from the South or Southwest run at all! Way to go, folks!
We SLOW DOWN! Really - that's mostly how I survive FL summer. Plus avoiding the sun as much as possible, pouring water over my head and limbs, moving some runs indoors or into a pool.
 

I was wondering about all of you from warmer climates as I was wondering how I would get long runs in this summer. I have had a few runs so far this spring where it was above 70 degrees and humid and I did not enjoy it at all. I tried running in a hat to sop up the sweat that was pouring in my eyes, and threw it off about a mile in as I thought I was channeling Lewis Black's rendition of anger. I also found I have nowhere to wipe sweat if I wear a sleeveless shirt. And in between cursing about needing to run in lab goggles and carry a towel, I wondered how people from the South or Southwest run at all! Way to go, folks!

If you have the option, there's always the treadmill when the heat is too much. I've used it plenty of times when the heat or the air quality outside is not at a safe level. I generally prefer running outside, but if that's not an option, I'll hit the treadmill.
 
I hate waking up earlier than needed but I suck it up and do that in the Summer to avoid running in the worst of the heat. So morning runs before work and if I have to run after work, I'll do it on the treadmill at the gym.
 
ATTQOTD: Nope. It can get up to 120* at the hottest part of the day here in my city, so nope to running on the sun, thanks. I already run in the early mornings on my weekday runs, but would sometimes sleep in until 7-8 for my long runs on the weekends. That is definitely changing during this training cycle in the summer. The lowest temperature point during the summer here is between 4-6am and that's still a nice 90* usually.
 
It was also a big game changer to learn about T+D adjustment from @DopeyBadger.

For those interested, just add the current temperature and current dew point together. That gives you a T+D. Then use the following chart to adjust the paces (as an example):

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So this runner's current fitness HM pace is an 8:04. If the T+D is 146, then they should put a 4% adjustment on the pace and aim for a 8:24 min/mile instead.

This pace adjustment chart is general. Some make bigger or smaller adjustments individually, but it's a starting point.

I usually do the following.

-Find the adjusted T+D pace on the chart.
-Run the workout with the adjusted T+D pace.
-If I felt the effort was spot on for that type of pace and could run consistent adjusted paces, then that's a good adjustment for that T+D for the next time.
-If I felt the effort was too hard for that type of pace or saw a fade during the paces, then I need a bigger adjustment (run slower) for the next similar workout under similar conditions.
-If I felt the effort was too easy for that type of pace, then I would consider making a smaller adjustment (run faster) the next time.

Essentially, I use the above chart to set a new goal workout pace and then allow my effort to guide me during the workout to determine the validity of it. My rule of thumb is always "one more". Could I realistically do "one more" at the end of the workout? Whether that be one more mile at the pace or one more interval. If I realistically believe I could do one more, then it was a well paced workout. If I don't believe I could have done one more, then I should slow down a bit more on the next attempt.
 
ATTQOTD: I try as hard as I can to avoid it. The rise in temps has kicked my butt these past two weeks. I keep telling myself that I was able to adjust last summer but that involved waking up at 5:00 or 5:30 to get it done.
 
Question for those of you that have done Dopey, or any runDisney challenge race. Is it possible to get the challenge medals without a finish time in the actual races? In other words, if someone were to take the chip off their bib, is there any way they could still get their Dopey medal?

I would think as long as your bib is on and you appear to have run everything through their checks you should get it. I am not sure why you would take the chip off though.

QOTD: Do you or anyone you know run during the hottest part of the day during summer? If so why do you choose that time?

I try not too. Sometimes the hottest temperature of the day isn't as bad as say in Florida though.
 
ATTQOTD: I either run on lunch with our running group at work or right before sunset. Probably not the smartest decision dealing with the heat of Alabama, but I cannot run early in the morning as we have no streetlights where I live and I prefer outside to the treadmill. I figure it helps prepare me for faster times in the fall, maybe.

Edited to add: Finished the Auburn Running Festival half on Saturday in 2:01:53. Full recap in my journal if you care to read. LOL.
 
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This talk about Dopey and removing the tracking chip actually made me think.
I had a race last month that I was super freaked out about and almost didnt run. I actually needed an official time from this race for something, but I wonder ... if something like that happens again, would taking the chip off my bib make me less nervous? Then nobody will know my time unless I choose to tell them ... so I dont have to worry about other people potentially judging me for not reaching my goal (which I know isnt likely to happen, but still...)

But yeah, I could see someone removing the chip if they're worried that they might not run to standards set by others (or themselves) and dont want people to know whether or not they reached their goals.
 
Regarding physical activity in the summer heat, I'd just encourage everyone to be smart and be safe! You need to be aware not just of the danger of dehydration, but also hyponatremia, the drop in sodium levels in your blood. This can result when an athlete sweats excessively and replaces fluid loss with water only, causing the sodium in the blood to become diluted. In extreme cases, this can be fatal. Be mindful of the risks of prolonged exercise when it's hot, and use a sports drink or snacks with sodium and other electrolytes if you're going to be training for an hour or more in high heat. Let's all be safe out there!
 
ATTQOTD: I try not to, but if I drag my feet all morning and have evening plans I have been known to make myself. I always end up with a truly brutal headache later though so one day I'll learn.
 














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