Brian, thanks for that input & info....I was curious if discounts were even available. I was running into that same garbage regarding Disney not letting us check in on dec 19 and continue our stay into their holiday rates for value rates. They had it open but I couldn't do a continuing stay.

When my girls came home from WI w/my parents I asked them about Xmas at GF again and my littlest one cried. She needs Xmas at home so that's where we'll be - which is a bummer, but we'll just keep our Thanksgiving ressie at the 40% off which is really too good to dump anyway!
I was less than thrilled w/how Disney is handling the AP rates nightly. They way they jump up during holiday season it's almost a wash betwn booking rack and having the rate hold at value for the duration than booking AP and having it jump up so high w/ their new nightly system. I am just not feeling the Disney love lately at all. Their new changes really do stink and it is just so many changes all at once. Now I found out that you can't even put an AP room on courtesy hold anymore, either. Little by little their new crackdown rules are becoming known to me and I am not liking it.
Good luck! Hope you can eek your way into the Grand for your Dec trip!

I remember just a little while ago that the rooms that were always available were at the Grand. They couldn't FILL them. Now, probably thanks to all our gabbing and giving away the secret of the magic at the GF we can't get ourselves in unless we book a half a year out. * Good grief *