The Minas Morgul scene from the books and movies of Lord of the Rings

[FlowersChild]

I had a question for the Lord of the Rings book fans who saw Peter Jacksons films. Do you think Peter Jackson made a good move by taking the Minas Morgul scene from the Two Towers and moving it to the Return of the King ? I think it made a lot of sense as that part of the story takes place long after Saruman has been cast down.

I guess it's one of those things where in the books it's better in the Two Towers, but in the movies it worked better in Return of the King. One of the things that I enjoyed the most when reading the Lord of the Rings was when Frodo comes to the terrible city of Minas Morgul. I was wondering what the Minas Morgul part would be like in the movies. Now the Minas Morgul scene in the movie was a little different than it was in the book, but I still enjoyed the Minas Morgul scene from the movie.

One of the things about this part of the story that I find interesting is when Frodo had a desire to run to the gates of the Tower of Minas Morgul. I mean if anything you would think that Frodo would want to run as fast as he could away from the Tower of Minas Morgul and that he would have no desire to go near the Tower. In fact even if it was someone who did not have the ring and someone who was not with anyone who had the ring it seems like all they have to do is just look at the Tower of Minas Morgul and that should be more than enough to tell them that they better turn around and get as far away from that Tower as they can. But Frodo did have the ring which put him in far greater danger.

I really felt this part of the story did show the power of evil with the way Frodo had a desire to run to the gates of the Tower. I also felt it showed the power of good, because Frodo is a hobbit who is about 3 feet tall and in the end he did not give in to the intense powers of evil he did not run to the gates of the tower.

Also when the Lord of the City came out with his great host Frodo felt pressure again and this time he felt the command to put on the ring, but Frodo did not give in. I mean yes Frodo knew that he did not have the power to face the Lord of the City as he was only a simple hobbit, but that is one of the neat things it's like in this case it's almost better to not be a powerful Gandalf because that way it's more easy for you to see that you better not use the ring right now.

Now if Gandalf had been there what would he do ? In the Two Towers book Gandalf said let us be glad that the ring has gone beyond our reach and that we can no longer be tempted to use it. I would like to think that Gandalf would not have used the Ring, but since Gandalf was so much more powerful than Frodo I believe that it would have been harder for Gandalf than it was for Frodo.

This part of the story was like a battle, but not a battle with swords, but a battle with the will of evil and the will of good and in this case a simple hobbit won the battle against the intense forces of evil. It's also interesting because the Lord of the City was so close to the ring. There are 9 Ring-Wraiths and the Lord of the City was the greatest of the 9 and he was Saurons most powerful servant he was the Lord of the Nazgul. If the Lord of the City could have just got the Ring then Sauron would have won. It's amazing as powerful as the Lord of the Nazgul was he was not able to get the ring when it was so close to him and he had an army to back him up and only Frodo,Sam and Gollum to deal with.

Anyways for those of you who have read the book and seen the movie where you happy with the way the scene played out in the movie ? In the movie when the lighting flashes in Minas Morgul, well I thought that was awesome. The lighting flashes seemed more intense in the book, but I did not expect the movie to be as good as the book.

 

[crcormier]

Love the movies but never read the books though, so I can't really comment. Nice post, makes me want to read the books to find out.

Interesting juxtaposition to your other threads though. How come you don't do more threads like this?

 

[MosMom]

Interesting juxtaposition to your other threads though. How come you don't do more threads like this?

Because this got zero response....the others get 20 pages of responses.

 

[crcormier]

Because this got zero response....the others get 20 pages of responses.

Too bad. I find it more interesting. Bet other people would too.

 

[bananiem]

Gosh, thanks for asking. It's so kind of you to ask my opinion. Do you really want to know what I think?

 

[Mermaid02]

After reading this- all I can say is WOW!

 

[crcormier]

Gosh, thanks for asking. It's so kind of you to ask my opinion. Do you really want to know what I think?

Yes.

After reading this- all I can say is WOW!

I know. Very well written.

 

[MushyMushy]

Despite the rude intentions behind bringing this thread forth, it's a great post, Tim.

I honestly can't recall the differences between the movie scenes and the book scenes off the top of my head, but you've made me want to go back and read the series again.

One thing I wonder is if you think the movie should have included Tom Bombadil since he had so much of the book devoted to him. I was surprised that he wasn't in any of it! I really enjoyed his character, although it was frustrating that he could have put an end to all the evil going on, but chose to stay out of it.

 

[Mermaid02]

Despite the rude intentions behind bringing this thread forth, it's a great post, Tim.

I honestly can't recall the differences between the movie scenes and the book scenes off the top of my head, but you've made me want to go back and read the series again.

One thing I wonder is if you think the movie should have included Tom Bombadil since he had so much of the book devoted to him. I was surprised that he wasn't in any of it! I really enjoyed his character, although it was frustrating that he could have put an end to all the evil going on, but chose to stay out of it.

Why is this rude? It's out there- why is it rude to bring it to attention?

 

[FlowersChild]

Why is this rude? It's out there- why is it rude to bring it to attention?

I am not MushyMushy, but I think she does not like the fact that some people will use this thread that I started against me. Some might start saying stuff like " this posts shows that I know how to post like an adult and that means FlowersChild is making up his childlike ways "

The thing is I have never said that I can't post like an adult. I know I can post like an adult and I can also post as a child. I will not stop posting like a child, because I am a child and I will not stop posting like an adult because I am an adult. This is just the way I am and I am never going to change.

If you like what I posted when I started this thread that is great, but that does not mean that I am going to stop posting as a child. When someone tells me they like my adult like ways, but hate my child like ways that is the same as someone telling me that they think my ears are okay, but they think my nose is ugly. I am not going to change my nose, just because some people want me to change my nose. My nose is a part of who I am. I am not going to change my childlike ways, just because some people want me to change my childlike ways. My childlike ways are a part of who I am.

If I changed who I was, just because I wanted people to accept me, it would not work. For how can people accept me, if they don't accept me for who I really am ? They only way that you can accept me is if you accept me for who I am.

My best friends treat me with kindness and they accept me for who I am and they never try to change me

 

[SplshMtn99]

Very nicely written. Great post. (in response to post #1)

 

[Mermaid02]

I am not MushyMushy, but I think she does not like the fact that some people will use this thread that I started against me. Some might start saying stuff like " this posts shows that I know how to post like an adult and that means FlowersChild is making up his childlike ways "

The thing is I have never said that I can't post like an adult. I know I can post like an adult and I can also post as a child. I will not stop posting like a child, because I am a child and I will not stop posting like an adult because I am an adult. This is just the way I am and I am never going to change.

If you like what I posted when I started this thread that is great, but that does not mean that I am going to stop posting as a child. When someone tells me they like my adult like ways, but hate my child like ways that is the same as someone telling me that they think my ears are okay, but they think my nose is ugly. I am not going to change my nose, just because some people want me to change my nose. My nose is a part of who I am. I am not going to change my childlike ways, just because some people want me to change my childlike ways. My childlike ways are a part of who I am.

If I changed who I was, just because I wanted people to accept me, it would not work. For how can people accept me, if they don't accept me for who I really am ? They only way that you can accept me is if you accept me for who I am.

My best friends treat me with kindness and they accept me for who I am and they never try to change me

Nobody here is making fun of you Tim. I stand by that it was not rude to bump this post- it's part of who you are and what you like. There's no "pineapple" here.

And Tim- when you say "my best friends" I hope you are talking about friends in "the real world" because this isn't "the real world" and you don't really "KNOW" any of these people..... the internet can be a very dangerous place for anyone who is "too trusting". Be safe.

 

[lindalinda]

Excellent post. I really didnt have any issues with moving some scenes in the two towers to the return of the king. The movie needed to be a little more linear, I think, so it made more sense to do it that way.

I do agree with the prior poster that Tom Bombadil should have been included. I was actually hoping when the extended versions came out he would be there. Oh well. Great movies though, and wonderful attention to detail.

 

[lindalinda]

I didnt realize the post was a year old.

 

[JadenLayne]

Tim,

I think your first post was excellent and so was your second post. It explains that you are an adult, with an adult mind but that at times you like to act more like a child. It's who you are and you want people to accept you the way you are.

Both posts were excellent..........although...........believe it or not........I have never seen Lord of the Rings! I bought the whole pack but want to have time to sit down and watch them and that extra time never seems to come!!!!

 

[MushyMushy]

Why is this rude? It's out there- why is it rude to bring it to attention?

He has never once been anything but up front and honest about his ability to post in a childlike manner as well as in an adult manner. Yet, people are constantly bringing forth these "shocking" examples of him doing just that.

Most people can and DO write in different manners for different situations. Big deal. Why is it news when Tim does it?

 

[MushyMushy]

Tim,

I think your first post was excellent and so was your second post. It explains that you are an adult, with an adult mind but that at times you like to act more like a child. It's who you are and you want people to accept you the way you are.

Both posts were excellent..........although...........believe it or not........I have never seen Lord of the Rings! I bought the whole pack but want to have time to sit down and watch them and that extra time never seems to come!!!!

Despite the fact that fantasy/sci fi was my first love, I was never able to get through the books when I was reading that genre. I read The Hobbit, but just couldn't get into Fellowship.

The movies really hooked me! So, I'm actually glad I got a chance to see the movies before the books. After I saw Fellowship, I devoured the Rings series.

Anyway, when you get a chance, watch the movies! I wish I had a chance to see them for the first time and fall in love with them.

 

[FlowersChild]

Tim,

I think your first post was excellent and so was your second post. It explains that you are an adult, with an adult mind but that at times you like to act more like a child. It's who you are and you want people to accept you the way you are.

Both posts were excellent..........although...........believe it or not........I have never seen Lord of the Rings! I bought the whole pack but want to have time to sit down and watch them and that extra time never seems to come!!!!

Awwwwwwww thank you for your kind post JadenLayne JadenLayne you treat little me with kindness, because you accept little me for who I am

Now I have the mind of a child and of an adult I am always a child and I am always an adult I don't always post as a child, but I am always a child. I don't always post as an adult, but I am always an adult I don't always post about Star Wars, but I am always a Star Wars fan. I don't always post about the Lord of the Rings, but I am always a Lord of the Rings fan JadenLayne you may not understand all of this, but that is okay No one really understands little me I don't even understand myself I don't understand myself, but I accept myself My friends don't understand me, but they accept me

I am very happy to have you as my big sister JadenLayne, just as I am very happy to have DreamFlight99 as my big sister

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Wha?!?! What the heck is going on on this thread?!?

 

[SplshMtn99]

Wha?!?! What the heck is going on on this thread?!?

I take it that you've never opened a thread written by FlowersChild....and you came here looking for an intelligent conversation about Lord of the Rings?