THE LIBERAL THREAD #3- No Debate Please

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I love that name!

It always makes me think of Lydia Deitz in Beetlejuice though...

Lydia: They don't wanna come down.
Delia: Charles...
Otho: Why not?
Lydia: I think the reason is, is that they were trying to scare you away, and you didn't get scared.
Delia: Please, they're dead. It's a little late to be neurotic.


Lydia: You can't scare her, she's sleeping with Prince Valium tonight.

:rotfl: Yeah, that's how DH came to suggest the name. He threw it in with a bunch of weird ones that sounded like we were naming a character in a fantasy novel, not having a baby. I bet he wanted Lydia all along, and the odd names were decoys. :lmao:

Thanks for the compliments on the first name, everybody. Lots of people seem to like it. I hope our daughter does too. :)
 
On my shirt. I'd changed Thomas, but I kept smelling that poo smell.

Not quite sure how it got there.

Okay, I guess that was a big off-topic.

Still looking for a spinster for my terrorist's brother.

That is all.
 
Chris, if your terrorist brother looks anything like the eye candy whose pic was posted upthread, I'm sure you will find a bevy of likely candidates. ;)
 
On my shirt. I'd changed Thomas, but I kept smelling that poo smell.

Not quite sure how it got there.

Okay, I guess that was a big off-topic.

Still looking for a spinster for my terrorist's brother.

That is all.


I know where there is a bevy of spinsters!!! I'll send you a PM, I don't want them to be offended and vomit or anything.
 

Foldable camp seat (check)
Two thermos--one for hot chocolate, one for coffee (check)
Travel mugs (check)
Are you sure that you will be able to take these with you? Will you have to go through security? I went to a number of rallies last year and they wouldn't even let us bring in bottles of water.
 
I'm headed down in about 4 hours.

OH HAPPY DAY!!


and because I can be a royal "#$itch" at times, I plan on posting a blog here tomorrow, every hour on the hour. :lmao:
 
It's official.

I am not going.

My body can't handle the climate change right now, and I can't get a straight answer from my insurance company if they'll cover a hospital visit in DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

I'll go to a watch party tomorrow.
 
Are you sure that you will be able to take these with you? Will you have to go through security? I went to a number of rallies last year and they wouldn't even let us bring in bottles of water.

Yes, we will need to go through security checkpoints. Travel mugs were not on the contraband list (and both thermos are the travel mug type and do not contain glass so I think we pass).

The little seats fit in the small bag we're allowed to carry. Bottled water is definitely allowed. I've read on many blogs that people bring milk crates (which are not on the contraband list) to sit/stand on. I'm not toting a milk crate. If I'm wrong about the seats and have to hand them over--no big deal. They cost a couple of bucks from IKEA.
 
It's official.

I am not going.

My body can't handle the climate change right now, and I can't get a straight answer from my insurance company if they'll cover a hospital visit in DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

I'll go to a watch party tomorrow.

I am sorry :guilty:
 
It's official.

I am not going.

My body can't handle the climate change right now, and I can't get a straight answer from my insurance company if they'll cover a hospital visit in DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

I'll go to a watch party tomorrow.

Sorry Rob. If it's any consolation...you somehow passed the death plague on to me.

Quit breathing on the screen when you type.

:hug:
 
It's official.

I am not going.

My body can't handle the climate change right now, and I can't get a straight answer from my insurance company if they'll cover a hospital visit in DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

I'll go to a watch party tomorrow.

I'm sorry you can't make the trip. I hope you're back in top shape in time to toast President Obama.:thumbsup2
 
It is snowing! About an inch of accumulation is expected, which is not much, but DC folks don't deal well with snow.
 
Interesting reading....


Why the Uniter Divided Us

By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Monday, January 19, 2009; A19

There are many reasons why most Americans are not mourning President Bush's departure. But our new president would do well to concentrate on the deeper causes of the public's disaffection with the man headed to Texas.

From the very beginning of his presidency, won courtesy of a divisive Supreme Court decision that abruptly ended his contest with Al Gore, Bush misunderstood the nature of his lease on power, the temper of the country and the proper role of partisanship in our political life. His win-at-all-costs strategy in Florida became a template for much of his presidency, reflected especially in the way the Justice Department was politicized.


Bush did not respect the obligation of a leader in a free society to forge a durable consensus. He was better at announcing policies than explaining them. He dismissed legitimate opposition and plausible doubts about the courses he wished to pursue. It is partly because of these failures that Americans reacted by selecting a successor with such a profoundly different political personality.

Barack Obama's first response to a political problem is to offer a detailed analysis and put the challenge into some larger context. He loves sparring with his intellectual adversaries. And his "if you have a better idea, I'll take it" approach is the antithesis of the my-way-or-the-highway politics of the past eight years.

Bush was capable of considerable charm, but he never really engaged his opponents. He rolled over them. He did not try to win expansive electoral majorities. Instead, he sought to build a compact, ideologically pure coalition that he could use on behalf of dramatic conservative departures. He claimed mandates he did not have.

Maintaining long-term support for the Iraq war would have required him to do more than just push a resolution through Congress on the eve of a midterm election using political threats and campaign-trail rhetoric. "It's better to fight them there than here" was not an argument that took the average citizen's intelligence seriously. Cutting taxes rather than asking us to pay for the war suggested that while the president might ask others to sacrifice their priorities, he would never sacrifice his own.

Ironically, the clearest evidence of Bush's larger failure can be found in the areas where he can claim genuine success.

Bush's Medicare prescription drug plan and his No Child Left Behind education program were far from perfect. But they reflected broadly shared goals -- expanding health coverage, promoting accountability in education -- and involved actual bipartisan wrangling and negotiation. Aspects of both programs will endure.

Bush's dedication to the victims of AIDS in Africa and his dramatic increases in foreign aid were admirable, and they surprised his fiercest critics. In the final days, his supporters were touting these least typical of his achievements.

For a few months after Sept. 11, 2001, the president governed as a truly national leader. At that moment, we saw the consensus-builder he promised to be in 2000. He might have built a durable majority for his party on the basis of more moderate, consensual policies. Instead, he moved to ridiculing those who doubted the wisdom of his Iraq adventure and used the war on terrorism for electoral advantage.

A hyper-partisan domestic politics of us vs. them followed naturally from Bush's instinct to confuse moral certainty with moral clarity. In his farewell address, he declared yet again that "good and evil are present in this world, and between the two, there can be no compromise."

Yes, but the hardest moral decisions are usually not between good and evil but between competing goods (security vs. liberty) or lesser evils (a draining war in Iraq vs. a messy, long-term strategy to contain Saddam Hussein).

Our new president will make his own characteristic mistakes. He risks overestimating his capacity to persuade his most implacable foes. He may forget that a two-party system inevitably creates its own dynamic of loyalty and opposition.

But he is decidedly not an us-vs.-them guy. He gets both the uses and the limits of partisanship. He has been known to quote the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr on the dangers of moral arrogance. He could make nuance and complexity cool again. Of course it will take more than that to be successful. But it's a start.
 
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