The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

[Mango7100]

At HS and Epcot today with Genie…I’m not sure if it works as well as I had hoped for stacking.
7 am—-got Slinky Dog for 1040-1140. After got ILL for ROR at 110-210 and Remy for 630-730
11am—purposefully did not tap into SDD in order to enact the 120 minute rule. Got TSMM for 255.
Tapped into SDD at 1105 and got Test Track for 815. Wanted MFSR but it was already at return times at 8pm by then.
At 1 pm—made Soarin for 445-545.
After tapping in to TSMM at 3 there wasn’t anything left for HS and the ones left at Epcot are not helpful (like Living with the Land, Figment, etc).
At 4 pm there are no LL for any ride left at HS for the rest of the day and I refreshed about 10 times.

The ones we used did save time—we waited 5 min for Slinky with a posted 85. Waited 5 for TSMM with a posted 60. Waited 10 for ROR with a posted 135. And judging by where the lines ended those posted times were accurate. Touring Plans has not been as accurate this time. We did do 2 standbys and our actual wait time was exactly what was posted.

Im not sure how well Genie will work at Peak times in HS. You may get 1-2 selections of rides besides paying for ILL. We kept refreshing but it was not as successful as we had with old FP.

 

[Cotta]

I've been rethinking my HS strategy .. this is long sorry!

as a solo traveler.. I want to ride SDD but it's not be all end all..

I'm going the Monday after thanksgiving as my Hday.. so crowds remain unknown.. could have lingering holiday crowds.. there could be a lull....

But... I'm not park hopping. Rise is a priority so I am inclined to book my ILL for that first... and MMRR (has it ever ran out of ILL in the morning?)

but if I'm not park hopping then could it actually be worse for me to get stuck with a SDD for later after noon and evening and thus locking me out until 11am to book another?

I realize if I don't book SDD first then I probably won't get a genie+ For it..

but would genie then be more valuable to me to be able to book more of the other rides?

Idk.. right now this was my plan:

7am
Buy rise (aim for 12-1 time)
Book SDD
Buy MMRR (aim for 1-2 time)

*booking rise and MMRR for heavy crowd times.

early entry rope drop: head to TT and RR

I can single ride RR

Single ride MFSR...

In theory if I can get an earlier time for SDD then I could use genie+ for some shows, TSMM...


what if I forgo SDD and just start booking other things. Could I get more things with Genie+? I mean.. maybe I just suck up the standby for SDD?

I would rope drop SDD, then you could book something else at 7 am, I would probably go with ToT since you can single rider RnR and MFSR. And remember you can choose your times for ILL (Rise and MMRR).

 

[Sjm9911]

The problem is if MMRR goes down. Then the times are a mess. I was told all the magnetic rides, MMRR, Remmy and rise have problems everyday. When I went, we disnt do rise, but the other two were broken down everytime we were there, and it messes up any and all planning. I would do those early, that way if it does break down ot will not be at 730 at night for a return time.

 

[SkyGuy]

Going in January and will go directly to HS after leaving our bags at hotel. Will arrive in park around 16h00. So want to make sure I have the right Genie+ strategy. I should reserve the most popular rides (that I'm interested in) for the latest time possible righ? Here is what I'm thinking:
7h00 a.m. = Reserve MF for around 20h00-21h00
9h00 a.m. when park opens = SDD for around 18h00-19h00
11h00 a.m (if able to on the plane) = Reserve Star Tours for 16h00-17h00?

Is there anything else I could do to stack?
Ty

Slinky should definitely be first. The issues you’re going to run into are that the system doesn’t give you a choice of times for Lightning Lanes. You can only chose times for the paid options (Rise, Mickey & Minnie’s Runaway Railway at HS). You may very well be able to procure a later in the day SDD since they go so quickly. The 120 minute rule starts at park open, not after your 7am selection, so you would not be able to get another LL until 11am. At 11am, the times for Millennium Falcon might not be pushed out to 20:00 yet, and Star Tours will almost certainly not be offered that far in advance.

 

[soniam]

Okay thank you so much for that information!! So our typical schedule is rope dropping to about 12, taking an afternoon break and then park hopping to another park around 4. I'm thinking our best strategy is to book a Genie+ ride for park opening and then tapping in and seeing what we get immediately after that (and continue that trend until we break at 12). Then using the 12-4 break to stack a few rides for the evening park? I know we risk the big rides being gone but we have a 1 and 4 year old and just want to ride whatever we don't have to wait for

That is how Maxpass worked at DLR. We used that. However, DLR usually had good Maxpass availability. If it's a busy time, I don't know if DHS will be the same. The other parks might be OK, but some evidence above suggests otherwise.

 

[katyringo]

I would rope drop SDD, then you could book something else at 7 am, I would probably go with ToT since you can single rider RnR and MFSR. And remember you can choose your times for ILL (Rise and MMRR).

I'm thinking about this... I was gonna rope drop TT thinking most folks headed to SDD.. but I'm also really good at being one of the firsts in the park too... soooo maybe it's worth rope dropping SDD and then using genie for TT and thus having quicker return times..

 

[AZMermaid]

I'm thinking about this... I was gonna rope drop TT thinking most folks headed to SDD.. but I'm also really good at being one of the firsts in the park too... soooo maybe it's worth rope dropping SDD and then using genie for TT and thus having quicker return times..

This is our plan. We are going to rope drop Slinky and book TT at 7, ideally for a window starting 9-9:30, but not sure if it will be that early. I’m hoping it books only after people see late returns for Slinky and MF. Depending on the Toy story waits and time we get off slinky, we might do one of those rides before heading to RR just before 9. Then we will ride TT (ideally) and book MF after we tap in. If our TT is 10:00 or later, I’m thinking we will hit MF standby right after slinky and then wait for the 11:00 stacking period. We will ride MMRR standby at some point, not sure when. Maybe midday when we are basically waiting for our LL times to mature. Not ideal, but I think that’s the plan. I’ll book Rise for 1ish after lunch or before our 4:10 Ogas.

 

[Sydnerella]

At 7am May I buy and book IAS LL passes for ROTR for my inlaws who are in my friends list but not my main travel party so we all ride together? We are both staying at different Disney resorts.

 

[coolbrook]

At 7am May I buy and book IAS LL passes for ROTR for my inlaws who are in my friends list but not my main travel party so we all ride together? We are both staying at different Disney resorts.

I think so as long as they have park reservations at the same park as you show on your friends and family list. I just got back from a trip last week where I was staying at a different resort from my sister and her family. We took turns doing the AM purchasing and choosing and were always able to buy the G+ and ILL for each other. On the Epcot morning I got the Remy BG and she bought G+ and the Remy ILL.

 

[ssgtravel]

Need some expert advice. I plan to try double stacking by booking a LL for 9-10, waiting until just after 10 to book another, then tap in before the end of the grace period at 10:15, after which I can book another LL. A couple of questions. If your first tap is within the 15 min grace period, but the second one is not (say the LL line inside the ride is longer than expected), what happens? Does the second tap turn green, or if not, does the CM let you in anyway?

We plan to use baby swap on some rides. What if the first party taps into the ride within the grace period, but the second party who are waiting do not because their wait extends beyond the 15 minutes? I assume the cast member will let them in anyway because they did arrive before the end of the grace period, but then have been waiting, but is that true? And does this affect the ability to book the second LL, because the second party is not tapped in within the actual allowable return time for the ride (so the system thinks they did not ride), and also the second LL is being booked after the 15 minute grace period ends.

 

[Sjm9911]

You xan not book a new LL untill everyone has tapped in. So if they have 2 taps, and most rides do. You need to have everyone through before the next selection. Taping in after the grace period, may or may not work. TbH sounds like a time waste trying to get a CM to fix it, if they can. I saw people having trouble with the phones and cards at tap in points. They were there a long time fixing what was wrong. If your doing normal stacking , you need to wait untill 2 hours after park opening to get another selection. If you are using the glitch, I have no idea. Its up to you on what to try and how far to push the system. But it could backfire. Not a chance i would take.

 

[Luisfba]

But as far as general grace period use (forgetting about G+), as long as you are past the first tap point within the grace period.. you are ok right?

 

[DisneyKidds]

But as far as general grace period use (forgetting about G+), as long as you are past the first tap point within the grace period.. you are ok right?

I can’t imagine them turning you away at a second tap point if you’ve already cleared the first.

 

[DisneyKidds]

If your doing normal stacking , you need to wait untill 2 hours after park opening to get another selection. If you are using the glitch, I have no idea. Its up to you on what to try and how far to push the system. But it could backfire. Not a chance i would take.

When we have the opportunity to use G+ next summer I’ll start with “better safe than sorry” standard triple hop stacking, but after a few successful days of that (hopefully) I’ll definitely test the limits of the system and try adding in some grace hack stacking!

 

[TinkBink]

Have people had any luck with refreshing the tip board and getting genie+ reservations suddenly pop up for the time they want? I used to have a lot of luck doing that with FastPass+ and just wondering how this compares?

 

[Tiggr88]

Have people had any luck with refreshing the tip board and getting genie+ reservations suddenly pop up for the time they want? I used to have a lot of luck doing that with FastPass+ and just wondering how this compares?

It doesn’t appear to happen as often. More importantly, there is no modify option. if you already have a G+ and need to cancel it to get this new one you need to cancel and then search again so it will probably be gone by the time you do that.

 

[dez1978]

Does anyone remember when Genie was 1st announced and there was a thread about that and there was a person who was just adamant that LL would never run out and would always be available all day, and that you would be able to pick virtually anytime you wanted to pick all day? And that those of us who didn't love it were just nayayers who weren't giving it a chance and wed see how wrong we were... Are they here? Because it seems they were wrong...

 

[Cotta]

Can someone tell me what happens when a ride is down that you have reserved a g+ for? I understand you get an anytime pass. Can you remake a g+ for that same ride later? Also does this in fact "end" your stack? Can you make another reservation once you tap into the anytime pass? Sorry for all the questions!

 

[dez1978]

I am not finding anything for Remy on Thrill data. Do I have any chance at Remy if we are not on site and hopping to Epcot? I don't have a problem buying it, but are they still available when Epoct opens?

 

[elgerber]

I am not finding anything for Remy on Thrill data. Do I have any chance at Remy if we are not on site and hopping to Epcot? I don't have a problem buying it, but are they still available when Epoct opens?

There are still some available for purchase right now