The Bachelor 17 Sean Lowe NO SPOILERS

[Jeafl]

Regarding the letter, i too thought it might be from his mom. But then they showed a closeup and it was addressed just "Sean--". I think if it was from his mom it would have sad "Dear Sean". Then again, I may be way overthinking this.

What I don't get about this show is that you would think they would WANT the relationships to succeed because it might make for better ratings. Letting girls come back for any reason, crash dates, send letters, etc. seems counterproductive. I guess they feel that a trainwreck is better for ratings than a happy ever after.

 

[Jeafl]

One other thought... Maybe Sean knows he is for sure choosing Lindsey, and wanted Catherine to be the jilted one in the end because she could handle it better than AshLee. He did say last night he knew he was n love with one of the girls...

 

[Amy]

Ok, Lindsay and eating the bugs - when are these girls going to stand up for themselves and say "NO!". All the bungee jumping, mountain climbing, polar bear plunge stuff and now eating bugs: c'mon....quit making them do dangerous stunts just for ratings! Yes, Sean wants an adventurous girl. And I guess he obviously wants a girl who will do whatever he asks, no matter what it is. Jump in freezing water and get pneumonia? Sure, if it'll get me a rose. What about a girl who is strong, and knows what she wants and is willing to stand up for herself? Yes, I know it's bad for ratings. And Selma - didn't she get sent home the night she wouldn't do the polar bear plunge? If a guy is going to reject me because I didn't do something crazy like that, then he isn't the guy for me.

As for AshLee, I couldn't see her with Sean. I liked her up until a couple of weeks ago when the neediness started to come out big time. I'm not so sure it was anger that kept her so quiet when she left; maybe it was her dignity, and she didn't want to lose it on national tv. I know when I'm upset, I do much better not saying anything because once I start talking, I'll really lose it and start bawling uncontrollably.

 

[Imzadi]

Jeafl, you just posted a spoiler in your first post, last paragraph.

 

[phorsenuf]

Jeafl, you just posted a spoiler in your first post, last paragraph.

I saw that too.

 

[shortbun]

I think her angry reaction is totally appropriate. He led her down the rosy path, continued to play the 'I'm in control' game with her for no reason. She was played, big time, and I would have been furious as well. This is a cruel season. The bachelor is a mysogenist, determined to be 'the man' in a 50's-nay 40's-kinda way. The woman he sent home was the only one left who would have successfully given him a challenge. I predict Catherine goes home and Lindsay-the one who's able to be totally led by the nose-is his choice.
He should have kept Stacey. I don't like him. He keeps saying, "I have three girls left." The 'girls' is insulting and that he considers them captive for his bidding... where's the barfing smilie?

 

[phorsenuf]

My husband predictions last night was he marries Lindsay, hangs out with Catherine a couple days a week and has AshLee come over to babysit.

 

[java]

Born again virgin has me cracking up. No sorry you can't get it back. You can choose to be celibate for a while, but you can't reclaim you virginity. What a pile of bull.

Hmm I'm still thinking Catherine.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Okay, here is my take....
I KNEW Ashlee was going home.
No question.

And, like others may have mentioned... the two that are left are the two most immature and non-prepared, 12 year old, school-girls with a crush, that were in the whole house.

But, remember, SEAN, himself, is an immature commitment phobe.
Really... EATING BUGS.... Are you serious??????
What the He!! is this, a version of the kids book, How To Eat Fried Worms.... Un-FRICKING-believable.

Bad practical jokes..... Eating BUGS.... That's the real Sean for you.

I don't think Catherine will be the last on at all.
She is very immature, and fits SEANS mold, in that way.
But, in all other ways, it just doesn't fit.
It just doesn't make sense.

So, the winner for SEAN... is.... (my prediction....)
DRUMROLL please....
The girl who ate fried worms!!!!!!

Good God, ABC, could this show get more disgusting and stoop to any lower of a level.

 

[ebtbmom]

I was wondering how Sean could guarantee Ashlee's safety in that dark watery cave? Is he an expert spelunker now too? He kept telling her just to trust him like he had some insider knowledge or amazing watery death cave navigation skills.

No way would my husband of 10 years get me to go in there, no Matter how much I trust him. I got anxiety just watching them swim in there!

 

[lillygator]

what spoiler was posted? I don't see anything wrong in her post.

 

[Luv2Scrap]

Regarding the letter, i too thought it might be from his mom. But then they showed a closeup and it was addressed just "Sean--". I think if it was from his mom it would have sad "Dear Sean". Then again, I may be way overthinking this.

What I don't get about this show is that you would think they would WANT the relationships to succeed because it might make for better ratings. Letting girls come back for any reason, crash dates, send letters, etc. seems counterproductive. I guess they feel that a trainwreck is better for ratings than a happy ever after.

I did either see or hear an interview (can't remember which) where Sean said he was happily engaged. It also said there was a late sumer wedding planned. Maybe he doesn't want to wait very long because of his born-again virgin-ness. If anyone has read the cover story about him in US magazine, it was quite interesting.

I also don't get why they don't come up with some new material for each season because you would think that would make for better ratings. I'm getting incredibly bored with this show because its become waaaay too predictable. It's the same thing every time, just a new cast of characters (and even that wasn't alllll new this time, was it?)

 

[robinb]

I did either see or hear an interview (can't remember which) where Sean said he was happily engaged. It also said there was a late sumer wedding planned. Maybe he doesn't want to wait very long because of his born-again virgin-ness. If anyone has read the cover story about him in US magazine, it was quite interesting.

I saw something about him being a virgin on the cover of some paper/magazine, but I didn't read the story. Is he a real virgin, or religious re-virgin?

 

[kimmar067]

AshLee always seems to me to be two camel straws short of a complete breakdown.

.....needy much?

 

[kimmar067]

Hope he sends Ashley home there is just something about her that seems wrong for him, can't put my finger on what it is

....her AGE?

 

[Traveliz]

....her AGE?

I think that's a little harsh. Sean is 29, Ashlee 32 (plus 3), Lindsey 24 (minus 5) and Cathererine 26 (minus 3). Those are all reasonable age differences for relationships.

I think Ashlee harps on the abandonment issue a bit toooooo much but I am thinking maybe just the producers keep asking her those questions and leading her interviews in that direction. She has made it very clear she loves and appreciates her adoptive parents and that did happen at age 6 so she has had many stable years with them and yes I understand that doesn't erase her earlier memories and fears.

Liz

 

[KAMLEM]

what spoiler was posted? I don't see anything wrong in her post.

The last paragraph in that post. I'm not going to post it again but it talks about the outcome of the show.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

I think her angry reaction is totally appropriate. He led her down the rosy path, continued to play the 'I'm in control' game with her for no reason. She was played, big time, and I would have been furious as well. This is a cruel season. The bachelor is a mysogenist, determined to be 'the man' in a 50's-nay 40's-kinda way. The woman he sent home was the only one left who would have successfully given him a challenge. I predict Catherine goes home and Lindsay-the one who's able to be totally led by the nose-is his choice.
He should have kept Stacey. I don't like him. He keeps saying, "I have three girls left." The 'girls' is insulting and that he considers them captive for his bidding... where's the barfing smilie?

I disagree. Ashlee knew going in what this show was all about, competing with 24 other women for one man knowing that in the end he could send you home. If you think Ashlee was the only one of the 3 left who would've challenged him, I disagree again. She would've turned herself into anything he wanted, just to be with him because she is needy and terrified of being abandoned again.

I don't think this season is cruel. Sean seems pretty genuine if you ask me. Sure, he's more traditional in his views and I personally find that refreshing. And of course he calls them girls, they are. Not sure why you'd take offense to that unless perhaps you find it demeaning. I call my over 40 year old girlfriends girls.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Sorry, it might be a harsh word, but YES, cruel.

Seriously, a girl with one arm doing roller derby, Polar Ice Plunge, eating bugs, on and on and on and on.

It is like how much total control can the man take, and how far can he get a woman to go, and what healthy personal boundaries can he get them to cross, or completely abandon.

Cruel, Warped, Inappropriate in every way.

Seriously, ABC should be ashamed.

My reply to half of those 'challenges'....
Including the polar ice plunge and eating bugs....
Sorry, but NO.... And if how you feel about me and our relationship is affected by whether I eat bugs or not... Then I AM JUST NOT 'THE ONE'.

 

[Wishing on a star]

PS: with her back up against the wall, YES, Ashlee would have challenged him. Just as she challenged her adoptive parents (the only ones who are so into her game of sacrificial and completely unconditional love) when she was a teen.

Her reaction when she did not get a rose says it all.

Just because one has issues and is a bit needy doesn't equate with 'never challenge'....

Quite the opposite in some cases.

In fact, it is an almost daily challenge by this person to declare that unconditional commitment and abate that fear of abandoment.