That didn't take long...Skyliner Accident

[Linkura]

I thought they pulled cars off to a separate loading area for wheelchairs and ECVs. Is it possible that protocols aren't being followed?

Not at Riviera for some reason.

 

[sharadoc]

Not at Riviera for some reason.

Wow.

 

[Happy Art Teacher]

What if there was a fire? It seems like the time to evacuate is way too long in an emergency.

 

[Heelish]

What if there was a fire? It seems like the time to evacuate is way too long in an emergency.

A fire where though? If it was in 1 cabin they could get to that cabin easily. A fire on many cabins wouldnt occur and one inside the station would be easily able to be put out and they wouldnt move the line anyways.

 

[Starwind]

I thought they pulled cars off to a separate loading area for wheelchairs and ECVs. Is it possible that protocols aren't being followed?

At Riviera station there is no separate loading area for ECVs. This is different from the other stations, which pull designated gondolas off into a separate area to load/unload ecvs and wheelchairs.

SW

 

[RealBlast3]

No way in heck am I ever taking my family on one of those. I'd rather deal with the frustrating buses instead.

There was a Disney bus accident not that long ago, you know. There have been both Disney bus and monorail accidents as well that have even resulted in injuries and fatalities over the decades.

Working out a couple of kinks here on this gondola with this very minor crash that has resulted in no injuries is not really a big deal. I mean, compare this to being stuck on a monorail for hours and having to be rescued by a cherry picker.

 

[Captainkidd76]

There was a Disney bus accident not that long ago, you know. There have been both Disney bus and monorail accidents as well that have even resulted in injuries and fatalities over the decades.

Working out a couple of kinks here on this gondola with this very minor crash that has resulted in no injuries is not really a big deal. I mean, compare this to being stuck on a monorail for hours and having to be rescued by a cherry picker.

Were those accidents 2 weeks after opening?

 

[VandVsmama]

There was a Disney bus accident not that long ago, you know. There have been both Disney bus and monorail accidents as well that have even resulted in injuries and fatalities over the decades.

Working out a couple of kinks here on this gondola with this very minor crash that has resulted in no injuries is not really a big deal. I mean, compare this to being stuck on a monorail for hours and having to be rescued by a cherry picker.

But here's the thing...people WERE stuck on the gondola for hours. And they DID have to be rescued by a cherry picker.

 

[ScarletFire]

Three separate gondola lines (CBR to EPCOT, CBR to DHS, CBR to POP), right? Was it a complete stoppage or just one line? Curious...

I'm a snow skier and experience stoppage on the ski lifts ALL THE TIME. It's not usually very long and I've never needed a rescue. Sucks during frigid, windy days but absolutely worth it!

And, family is staying at CBR during NYE holiday because of the skyliner.

 

[suemom2kay]

What's the height of the monorails? I don't see a big difference between being stuck in a gondola w/ECV, wheelchair, or stroller, vs stuck on the monorail with the same.

And, yes, 3 hours should be PLENTY of time to figure out a plan with what to do when the stranded guests get to some location.

1. Monorail is on a stable track. About 30 feet in the air. Service road along route. Skyliner unstable, rocks in the wind, 60 feet. Can be over water. No service road in many areas.

2. A lot more space to work in a monorail to prepare for transfer to rescue equipment.

Not at all the same rescue scenario.

 

[joelkfla]

Can't speak for Disney Transport but I don't think that any transit agency can mobilize equipment and personnel quickly for a sudden emergency.

I have to disagree here. When I started driving for Disney, it was common practice to invite any drivers ending their nighttime shift to stay for an extra hour or 2 when park attendance was higher than anticipated. By the time I left the company, that had been all but eliminated due to cost cutting.

Throughout the evening last night, there would have been buses and drivers ending their shifts as the parks emptied. It should have been easy to find a volunteers to extend their shifts, and rotate others in as DOT drive time limits were hit.

 

[RealBlast3]

But here's the thing...people WERE stuck on the gondola for hours. And they DID have to be rescued by a cherry picker.

Well, then, it's no worse a situation that we already have with the monorails and buses. As for it happening so soon after opening, well, then that is WHEN these sort of things would happen, wouldn't they? When a new operation is underway, hence my comment on working the kinks out.

As these are successful and operation all over the world, I am sure this will be adressed and worked out. But I mean, just as with cars and buses and monorails, that doesn't mean they will ever be totally immune to accidents.

 

[sam_gordon]

1. Monorail is on a stable track. About 30 feet in the air. Service road along route. Skyliner unstable, rocks in the wind, 60 feet. Can be over water. No service road in many areas.

2. A lot more space to work in a monorail to prepare for transfer to rescue equipment.

Not at all the same rescue scenario.

You've never been in a monorail that's packed w/guests?

 

[suemom2kay]

You've never been in a monorail that's packed w/guests?

Obviously, able body guests would be rescued first. Then the ECV’s, wheelchairs. Thus much more room to work with. Common sense.

 

[snappy]

I love disney’s depiction of the last night’s gondola incident as “unexpected downtime.” Reminds me of their “industry standard” argument about charging resort parking fees. I have my own terminology for these: “Disney speak.”

 

[suemom2kay]

I love disney’s depiction of the last night’s gondola incident as “unexpected downtime.” Reminds me of their “industry standard” argument about charging resort parking fees. I have my own terminology for these: “Disney speak.”

I think they may get in trouble for that. It clearly was an accident.

 

[joelkfla]

Why would they not alert the FD that the line was about to move? What if someone was transferring from gondola to rescue equipment at that moment. Power should have been locked out with zero ability to re-start.

Maybe they did notify RCFD, and that's why the bucket was stopped half way up. I haven't seen any reports of an actual Guest removal being in progress when the line was restarted.

 

[suemom2kay]

Maybe they did notify RCFD, and that's why the bucket was stopped half way up. I haven't seen any reports of an actual Guest removal being in progress when the line was restarted.

This would be a major safety violation. I would think all buckets would need to be down. It’s called lock out, tag out. Must not restart without clearance. Required by law. First responders mustn’t be required to look over their shoulder for machine startup in the midst of a rescue operation. If there was no notification, there will definitely be an incident report. OSHA will be all over this if it occurred.

 

[jjk0125]

Would the NTSB investigate something like this?

 

[pooh2001]

I hope all is well with everyone who was involved
I will never ride the skyliner
I do not want to ride it before the accident and now I truly do not want to ride it

I hope they give free night at resort for each guest affected, or free dinner or free FP's
Something to compensate them