Teacher fired for old porno flick...

[auntpolly]

By choosing to make that movie, she was choosing to close the doors to high-profile jobs like politics and conservative jobs like teaching. Maybe she didn't make her choice with full understanding of what might lie ahead, but she did make the choice.

But why should that be. She didn't do anything illegal. She didn't hurt anyone. We're so screwed up with sexuality in this country.

Let's just make her walk around with a scarlet A on her chest. (or P, as the case might be.) I guess that's what Jesus would have done, right?

 

[becjlek]

I haven't read this whole thread but I believe everyone has done something they are not proud of. We don't know the circumstances as to why she did this and it is in her past.

 

[teacherforhi]

I'm thinking along these lines too. When we're young, the whole world is open to us; however, as we go through life and make certain choices, we can no longer be ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.

For example, I'm middle-aged and have two children; I cannot go back to school, earn a medical degree and embark on a medical career -- I'd be retirement age before I could complete it; I cannot go join the Peace Corps; the military probably wouldn't want me at this point in my life. The choices I've made have opened some doors, closed others.

By choosing to make that movie, she was choosing to close the doors to high-profile jobs like politics and conservative jobs like teaching. Maybe she didn't make her choice with full understanding of what might lie ahead, but she did make the choice.

You can go back to school and earn a medical degree. You may not get much use of it, but you can do it and it really has no bearing on what happened to this teacher.

I see both sides of this. While the teacher did nothing illegal, it was found out at a time when she was vulnerable because she doesn't have tenure. Since our contracts are only good for one school year, the district has every right not to renew the contract of anyone, for any reason.

 

[auntpolly]

I see both sides of this. While the teacher did nothing illegal, it was found out at a time when she was vulnerable because she doesn't have tenure. Since our contracts are only good for one school year, the district has every right not to renew the contract of anyone, for any reason.

I don't know anything about this teacher. For all I know, that wasn't the only thing they had against her. But if she were at my DD's school and she was nice to the kids and good at her job, it would just kill me if they'd get rid of her and keep some of the nasty, useless "pillars of the community" that pass themselves as rolemodels that just happened not to have made a porno flick.

 

[VSL]

Porn is not illegal. As long as what she was doing was legal I see no reason for this woman to be fired.

This is just another case of morals being forced on people.

Wise words. ITA.

She did absolutely nothing wrong - what's all this nonsense about forgiveness and consequences and having to pay a price?

She's not a criminal.

At the end of the day she doesn't even need to feel remorseful about it (unless she regrets it) - she didn't hurt anyone and it was totally legal. Whatever your personal morals are, pornography is totally legal (unless, of course, it includes children/animals/etc.).

And it was a decade ago.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Given her past, what do you think the school districts civil liability would be if she fell into a student-teacher relationship that seems so common in the past couple of years?

My vote is it would be huge...


However, I reserve the right for a final determinitation until all of the evidence is has been reviewed.

Anyone have a link to the video????? Just kidding.

Oh please, its the teachers that are "too pretty" to go to jail that scares the crap out of me.... Its not the person who was mentally ill , (bi polar) over ten years ago, who after being on meds, joined the army, fufilled her contract, went to college and received a teaching degree and did her job well that scares me, its all the so called normal people.

 

[declansdad]

By choosing to make that movie, she was choosing to close the doors to high-profile jobs like politics and conservative jobs like teaching. Maybe she didn't make her choice with full understanding of what might lie ahead, but she did make the choice.

I'm sorry but that is just not true. Things that you do in your past do not automatically preclude you from something in your future.

 

[TCPluto]

.... Its not the person who was mentally ill , (bi polar) over ten years ago, who after being on meds, joined the army, fufilled her contract, went to college and received a teaching degree and did her job well that scares me, its all the so called normal people.

You forgot to mention made a PORNOGAPHIC MOVIE...

How do we know that anything other than the porno movie is true? Apparently the movie exists and she acknowledges that she made it so we know that's factual. But the rest, who really knows. Because she said it's so doesn't make it so. And does that excues the behavior? I don't know...

I don't really care about what she did. But I think it does pose a significant problem for the schol district in regards to risk management. To surmise otherwise is ridiculous.

 

[declansdad]

I don't really care about what she did. But I think it does pose a significant problem for the schol district in regards to risk management. To surmise otherwise is ridiculous.

Why would you say this? Are you saying that because she was in a porno she must be sick and is likely to be a pedophile?

 

[auntpolly]

Could a tenured teacher be fired for this? I doubt it. The school district would have a heck of a lawsuit on their hands.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I find it surprising that everyone thinks this is an OK thing for a teacher to have in their past. She should get a pass because it was 10 years ago? What message does that give our kids?

This is the message I would hear if I was a kid and they didn't take action: do whatever you want now, because as long as some time has passed it will not count against you.

That's funny...I would think this could be an excellent opportunity to talk to children about redemption and forgiveness. ESPECIALLY in the "Bible Belt".

 

[auntpolly]

That's funny...I would think this could be an excellent opportunity to talk to children about redemption and forgiveness. ESPECIALLY in the "Bible Belt".

Yeah, I read stuff in the Bible like "the prodigal son" and took it all to heart.
But maybe these folks aren't religious.

 

[TCPluto]

Are you saying that because she was in a porno she must be sick and is likely to be a pedophile?

No, I'm not saying that at all. But if an incident did occur, wouldn't the school by in a poor position to try and say they weren't aware of a potential for a problem? The answer I think, quite reasonably, is that they should have known that this could/would be a problem.

The students family who was victimized by a teacher in this situation, would collect quite handsomely from the school district, regardless of the merits of the case.

Sad but true.

 

[fakereadhed]

So they have learned if you are sick through no fault of your own--then you must suffer the consequences of whatever happens as a result even if what you did was a perfectly legal (albeit poor choice).

Nice way to teach the kids! (not)

I suppose it is much "nicer" to tell them that their teacher starring in a porno is no big deal.

I have a kid with an issue that is "no fault of her own"-not dismissing that she might not have been in control of herself just stating the obvious that the fact that this story came out is one of the consequences for the teacher from her past actions. There are lots of things that are "perfectly legal"- just because it's legal doesn't mean it won't have any social consequences later.

 

[DVC Sadie]

I'm thinking along these lines too. When we're young, the whole world is open to us; however, as we go through life and make certain choices, we can no longer be ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.

For example, I'm middle-aged and have two children; I cannot go back to school, earn a medical degree and embark on a medical career -- I'd be retirement age before I could complete it; I cannot go join the Peace Corps; the military probably wouldn't want me at this point in my life. The choices I've made have opened some doors, closed others.

By choosing to make that movie, she was choosing to close the doors to high-profile jobs like politics and conservative jobs like teaching. Maybe she didn't make her choice with full understanding of what might lie ahead, but she did make the choice.

I'm all for taking personal responsibility for your actions which she did by getting help for her mental illness and taking meds. She then went on and continued to change her life and you still think she should be punished.

I find that a little over the top and hope that no one ever makes an error due to mental illness or whatever because they could never move on with their life.

To compare teaching to politics is a little far reaching in my opinion.

 

[Angel0]

I would not feel comfortable with my child's teacher being a former "porno star". If they have no more morals than to have sex for money on TV - what else are they capable of? Yeah, I could just see Ron Jeremy or Jenna Jamison as my kid's teacher - NOT.

Judging from the tone of this post, I know this is not a popular opinion but it is mine.

 

[DISUNC]

My question is: how did the school find out? I mean was a parent watching a porno or a member of the school board and recognize her?

I'd like to know that one too! So it's ok to watch the porno, but not peform in one!

They should let this woman be!

 

[Angel0]

I'd like to know that one too! So it's ok to watch the porno, but not peform in one!

They should let this woman be!

Ummmmm - YEAH!!! Watching it is the equivalent of a fantasy. Something you might want to view or even use as a marital aid. PERFORMING in it is a different ball game - they are basically prostitutes.

 

[DISUNC]

I would not feel comfortable with my child's teacher being a former "porno star". If they have no more morals than to have sex for money on TV - what else are they capable of? Yeah, I could just see Ron Jeremy or Jenna Jamison as my kid's teacher - NOT.

Judging from the tone of this post, I know this is not a popular opinion but it is mine.

As stated in the article, True of False?...This was just a one time/one day job for this woman. It seems like she was in dire straights, she needed money & medicine...whatever.

You might be amazed at what some people do when they are desperate!

The two porno stars you mentioned are long time career porn stars....with lots of baggage. I wouldn't want them in the classroom with my children either. However this is a different situation.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I suppose it is much "nicer" to tell them that their teacher starring in a porno is no big deal.

I have a kid with an issue that is "no fault of her own"-not dismissing that she might not have been in control of herself just stating the obvious that the fact that this story came out is one of the consequences for the teacher from her past actions. There are lots of things that are "perfectly legal"- just because it's legal doesn't mean it won't have any social consequences later.

You'd have to fire an awful lot of teachers than.

A decade has passed. She committed no crime.

Do I support the porn industry. No I don't.

But in this day an age....I seriously thought the virgin unmarried school marm was a thing of the past.

According to you--evidently it is not.

Shall we go back to the days where the female teacher is to not go out for an night on the town, be celibate, and sober?

The school had the perfect opportunity to say that they don't approve, but it is the past and what was done was legal. But no--they stepped up on their mighty high horse to proclaim virtue.


Harper Valley PTA, anyone?