Teacher fired for old porno flick...

[BrinxFam]

Students reportedly discovered the video.

She was initially suspended with pay and then it was decided not to renew her contract in the best interest of the children.

 

[Rock'n Robin]

While HS boys are technically "children", it is too late to "protect" a lot of them from porn!
I would say to let her teach. I think the message is "yes we make mistakes, but if we work hard and want to change we can make ourselves better and rise above it." I bet a lot of people did stupid things in HS or college, even after they were adults (18)--and some do pay for those mistakes the rest of their lives, esp. if it is a crime. But what she did is not a crime, no matter what your opinion of porn. I hate porn and what it does to people and families, but applaud the fact that she's trying to better herself. Now it will be almost impossible for her to get a job anywhere, unless she changes her name.
Robin M.

 

[paigevz]

If we're not careful, we'll change things in education just like we have in politics: So that only the lesser people will be willing to subject themselves to the scrutiny. The better people will simply prefer the private sector where personal lives are respected.

Already starting to happen.

 

[DVC Sadie]

It probably shouldn't but it does, because you are working with kids all day long. If you're going to be a teacher, you have to scrutinize your past before you apply for that job. You have to go back and look at EVERY SINGLE THING you ever did from the time you were in college up to that point and see if it might not come back to bite you in the butt later on.

TOV

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Good grief a teacher does not have to have a security check like working for the FBI, CIA, or a lot of military positions. Nor is a teacher going for a political career.

As wonderful as teachers are they are certainly not held to the same standards as stated above nor should they.

If this teacher made a porn video or movie while actually working as a teacher that would be a whole different thing but firing her for something in her past is punitive and ridiculous.

Just my point of view.

 

[Sheree Bobbins]

It said she had untreated bipolar condition at the time. This should merit consideration as bipolars do commit rash and impulsive acts which this could have been.

 

[Cindy B]

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Good grief a teacher is does not have to have a security check like working for the FBI, CIA, or a lot of military positions. Nor is a teacher going for a political career.

As wonderful as teachers are they are certainly not held to the same standards as stated above nor should they.

If this teacher made a porn video or movie while actually working as a teacher that would be a whole different thing but firing her for something in her past is punitive and ridiculous.

Just my point of view.

Well, in my district you needed two ID checks. One was the usual criminal check and the other was a child abuse check. (To see if you were involved with abuse)

Two ID checks are pretty strict. They also require a physical, TB test and immunizations.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I find it surprising that everyone thinks this is an OK thing for a teacher to have in their past. She should get a pass because it was 10 years ago? What message does that give our kids?

This is the message I would hear if I was a kid and they didn't take action: do whatever you want now, because as long as some time has passed it will not count against you.

Well--you'd have to terminate a whole lot of teachers then. Everyone has got something. Noone is perfect. And someone's sex life really is nobody's business even if it is taped. This is a public school. Not a finishing school for future nuns.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well, in my district you needed two ID checks. One was the usual criminal check and the other was a child abuse check. (To see if you were involved with abuse)

Two ID checks are pretty strict. They also require a physical, TB test and immunizations.

That is for the safety of the children. Starring in a porn flick as a legal adult is not a crime and does not threaten the safety of the children.

Not sure about our district but our church requires this for the teachers in our school as well as all parent volunteers and any other volunteer or employee who must interact with children as part of their duties.

So I have had the FBI background check as I work child care in my church.

(I don't know what a child abuse check is--but can guess that looking up legal porn film roles is not part of that check).

 

[bicker]

I'd be more concerned about teachers who reuse refillable mugs, teachers who lie about the age of their children, and teachers who pool hop.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'd be more concerned about teachers who reuse refillable mugs, teachers who lie about the age of their children, and teachers who pool hop.

Immediate grounds for dismissal!

 

[bicker]

The naked truth is better that lies and deception!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The naked truth is better that lies and deception!

New slogan for a mug?

What point font will you use?

 

[fakereadhed]

Should we send our kids a message that there is no such thing as forgiveness?

Who said anything about being unforgiving? I was talking consequences. Forgiveness does not mean there is not a price to be paid. Even if you are bi-polar, if you do something there may be consequences. I wasn't implying that teachers have to be saints, but if you star in a porn flick one consequence may be that a school district doesn't want you teaching there.

I still feel like it is a bad message to give kids that there are no consequences for your past actions. There definitely ARE, however that does not mean that all is lost and you can't go on with your life. But it is no one's fault but your own if it comes back to haunt you later.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

So they have learned if you are sick through no fault of your own--then you must suffer the consequences of whatever happens as a result even if what you did was a perfectly legal (albeit poor choice).

Nice way to teach the kids! (not)

 

[jodifla]

Who said anything about being unforgiving? I was talking consequences. Forgiveness does not mean there is not a price to be paid. Even if you are bi-polar, if you do something there may be consequences. I wasn't implying that teachers have to be saints, but if you star in a porn flick one consequence may be that a school district doesn't want you teaching there.

I still feel like it is a bad message to give kids that there are no consequences for your past actions. There definitely ARE, however that does not mean that all is lost and you can't go on with your life. But it is no one's fault but your own if it comes back to haunt you later.

So, we forgive you, but you can never work in you profession again because of your alleged sin? What kind of circular logic is this?

And when you tell kids that they can never rise above their past, well, then there's no reason to even try, right?

 

[auntpolly]

And when you tell kids that they can never rise above their past, well, then there's no reason to even try, right?

This is such a good point. I would say that firing this teacher is not a very good example for the kids, as long as it is something clearly in her past.

 

[TCPluto]

Given her past, what do you think the school districts civil liability would be if she fell into a student-teacher relationship that seems so common in the past couple of years?

My vote is it would be huge...


However, I reserve the right for a final determinitation until all of the evidence is has been reviewed.

Anyone have a link to the video????? Just kidding.

 

[ozarkmom]

It was a legal activity not involving minors or hurting anyone. Everyone involved was consenting adults. Time to let this woman live her life.

While I'm thinking of it, can anyone tell me why making a porno movie is legal but prostitution isn't? Both involve having sex for money don't they

That's a really good question.

 

[ozarkmom]

Should we send our kids a message that there is no such thing as forgiveness?

Apparently so

 

[MrsPete]

Who said anything about being unforgiving? I was talking consequences. Forgiveness does not mean there is not a price to be paid.

I'm thinking along these lines too. When we're young, the whole world is open to us; however, as we go through life and make certain choices, we can no longer be ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.

For example, I'm middle-aged and have two children; I cannot go back to school, earn a medical degree and embark on a medical career -- I'd be retirement age before I could complete it; I cannot go join the Peace Corps; the military probably wouldn't want me at this point in my life. The choices I've made have opened some doors, closed others.

By choosing to make that movie, she was choosing to close the doors to high-profile jobs like politics and conservative jobs like teaching. Maybe she didn't make her choice with full understanding of what might lie ahead, but she did make the choice.