Sturgis Motorcycle Rally...HUGE Crowds expected

[robinb]

With the incentive for hospitals to mark deaths as Covid related I am afraid you are probably correct.

That old chestnut!

https://www.khou.com/article/news/v...alse/285-59d9c90f-ddb9-4dba-bcb1-b90d7324ab75

 

[DduzDis]

It will have had 9.5 by the end of the year. Hence why the phrase comes after probably stay there.


When reality goes against you, put out a conspiracy theory

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...id-19-deaths-might-be-undercounted-2020-08-13
Excess deaths indicate that we are under counting covid. Not over counting it.

Or if you don't like an answer dismiss it as conspiracy.... thus the difference in opinions on this whole thing.

 

[DduzDis]

That old chestnut!

https://www.khou.com/article/news/v...alse/285-59d9c90f-ddb9-4dba-bcb1-b90d7324ab75

I guess we need to stop believing the CDC then...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4897...r-acknowledges-inflation-covid-19-death-count

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Or if you don't like an answer dismiss it as conspiracy.... thus the difference in opinions on this whole thing.

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You have not one ounce of proof that hospitals and doctors are in fact lying on a massive scale. Yet that is what you're implying by claiming they have "incentive" to do so. That kind of innuendo is the very essence of a conspiracy theory. And in fact, I did have an answer. Excess deaths indicate we're undercounting Covid, not over counting.

 

[robinb]

I guess we need to stop believing the CDC then...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4897...r-acknowledges-inflation-covid-19-death-count

Did you even listen to that clip? The CDC Director told the representative that maybe a few cases early on in the pandemic may have been reported incorrectly but that the CDC reviews all deaths to ensure that they qualify as a Covid death. PLUS no hospital or doctor makes extra money off of Covid deaths which was your first assertion.

 

[Dan Murphy]

put out a conspiracy theory

Sure seems like we have a new conspiracy theory on one thing or another like every week. It is exhausting.

 

[DduzDis]

Did you even listen to that clip? The CDC Director told the representative that maybe a few cases early on in the pandemic may have been reported incorrectly but that the CDC reviews all deaths to ensure that they qualify as a Covid death. PLUS no hospital or doctor makes extra money off of Covid deaths which was your first assertion.

Believe what you want... I'll continue to believe a bullet is more deadly than a virus....

https://cbs12.com/news/local/i-team-deaths-incorrectly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-palm-beach-county

 

[DeniseJH]

I'll repeat, from Kurt Eichenwald:

"What I have learned in 2020: During a pandemic, entire societies are held captive by the immovable certainties of its dumbest citizens."

 

[Imzadi]

Comedian, Stephen Colbert, reworked the lyrics to Smash Mouth's "Hey Now," song to be more COVID appropriate for the Sturgis Biker Rally. Start the song at the 0:29 mark if it doesn't load properly. (Warning for language and such in the first 28 seconds, which is why you have to click on the link, instead of me posting the video. )

Smash Mouth Kills It At Sturgis Biker Rally at 0:29 second mark

 

[Imzadi]

I'll repeat, from Kurt Eichenwald:

"What I have learned in 2020: During a pandemic, entire societies are held captive by the immovable certainties of its dumbest citizens."

I had a teacher who tried to teach us about dysfunctional families:

"A tyanny is run by the sickest member of the family."

I don't think, by "sickest" he ever fathomed it would mean Covidiots running around, actually sick and being so stupid.

 

[DeniseJH]

Comedian, Stephen Colbert, reworked the lyrics to Smash Mouth's "Hey Now," song to be more COVID appropriate for the Sturgis Biker Rally. Start the song at the 0:29 mark if it doesn't load properly. (Warning for language and such in the first 28 seconds, which is why you have to click on the link, instead of me posting the video. )

Smash Mouth Kills It At Sturgis Biker Rally at 0:29 second mark

L-O-V-E Colbert!!! ❤

 

[DduzDis]

I'll repeat, from Kurt Eichenwald:

"What I have learned in 2020: During a pandemic, entire societies are held captive by the immovable certainties of its dumbest citizens."

It is disheartening that so much of a population will allow itself to be manipulated so easily....

 

[Planogirl]

It is disheartening that so much of a population will allow itself to be manipulated so easily....

That works both ways.

I'd personally rather do my part to keep a few others healthy rather than run around worrying only about my hobbies. If I'm wrong then so be it.

 

[HeatherC]

It is disheartening that so much of a population will allow itself to be manipulated so easily....

You must not know anyone who has gotten sick or died from this. I do and believe me when I say it is awful. Apparently, you see no need to do three basic things...social distance, wash hands and wear a mask. Such little effort yet apparently it is too much for some, huh? At the very least, it can’t hurt but even that is too much to ask of some people. Oh that’s right, it’s just a virus and probably a conspiracy theory. What was I thinking.

 

[DduzDis]

You must not know anyone who has gotten sick or died from this. I do and believe me when I say it is awful. Apparently, you see no need to do three basic things...social distance, wash hands and wear a mask. Such little effort yet apparently it is too much for some, huh? At the very least, it can’t hurt but even that is too much to ask of some people. Oh that’s right, it’s just a virus and probably a conspiracy theory. What was I thinking.

I know death. Not from COVID. That is sort of the point. We completely shut down and killed hopes and dreams of many small businesses for a better than 97% survivable virus. We have never in history shut down the country before. But, a virus that we can protect ourselves from with a t-shirt eliminates businesses across the country. It is ludicrous. I will say main stream media has done a brilliant job on this one. More often than not you need to have a test to know you have it. Protect (isolate) the vulnerable and let’s get on with life.

 

[NYCgrrl]

I know death. Not from COVID. That is sort of the point. We completely shut down and killed hopes and dreams of many small businesses for a better than 97% survivable virus. We have never in history shut down the country before. But, a virus that we can protect ourselves from with a t-shirt eliminates businesses across the country. It is ludicrous. I will say main stream media has done a brilliant job on this one.

Guess you get your “facts and stats” from non mainstream sources. Glad it’s done such a fine job of enlightening you.

 

[DduzDis]

Guess you get your “facts and stats” from non mainstream sources. Glad it’s done such a fine job of enlightening you.

It’s been a struggle with the opposition being silenced but I have managed to cope. I do appreciate your kind words.

 

[mrodgers]

It really has nothing to do with people being judgemental. We are in a GLOBAL Heath crisis and more people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is as simple as that.

Not so simple. It is your opinion that people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is certain politicians' opinion that people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is ex medical experts turned government agents' opinions that people are getting sick and dying needlessly. It is the MSM's opinion.

What it isn't is everyone's opinion. Some people's opinion is that we are in a global health crisis and people are getting sick and some of them are dying. Some people's opinion is to just stop being such a dirt ball. Wash your freakin hands, yes, even when you just walked out of the bathroom stall. Don't look at someone and cough or sneeze directly in their face. How hard is it? I don't do that. I wash my hands, working in a factory, very very often.

Some people's opinion is that all the germophobes bring it on themselves. Everyone's immune systems are so weak any more as they slather themselves with hand sanitizer every 15 minutes (that is sarcastic timing to make a point, in no way should that be taken that I think people stop every exactly 15 minutes and 0 seconds and use sanitizer. Disclaimer for when I'm called out on that...) Kids are constantly sick, way more than kids when I was growing up. They are packed full of pills these days and constantly sanitized.

See, that's the thing with opinions. Everyone has one and they are not all the same. Sure, there are a lot of people who's opinion that some medical experts that now work for the government have the credibility to give us health advice, but there are equally as many who's opinion is that those experts lost their credibility when they became agents of the government. Some have an opinion that masks are miracle devices and an equal amount who's opinion is they are worthless. It basically comes down to, not everyone blindly follows their government's and MSM's opinions as there is absolutely no credibility to anything any of them say.

We don't need masks. Essential workers need masks. If you're sick wear a mask. Everyone wear masks. Don't worry about masks, they don't protect you. Masks keep you from touching your face. Healthy people shouldn't wear masks. Masks don't protect you, they protect me. You don't know if you're healthy, wear a mask. It is not good for healthy people to wear masks. The experts really want me to follow their recommendations, but they sure do make it difficult. I think I'll just continue to be a grown up and wash my freakin hands and not sneeze on people.

 

[mrodgers]

From the CDC:

Also from the CDC:


Covid has killed more people IN FIVE MONTHS other than the top 3 leading causes of death in the US. It will pass "Accidents (unintentional injuries)" in a few days.

With not knowing the actual numbers from all the even admitted falsified numbers as well as the estimated 40% nursing home deaths, we have no idea where the virus falls in the statistics.

 

[JM23457]

That' something that I just can't understand. How can a very simple health device, worn mostly to protect others, and yourself to a lesser degree, become political? I think I have seen everything in recent years. At least I hope I have.

How can wanting to open a school become political? It goes both ways.