Sturgis Motorcycle Rally...HUGE Crowds expected

[tinkerdorabelle]

Here is an old article, but it gives you the name of the nursing home so you can check it out. The most recent article I found, a local paper, requires a subscription to view it.

Here is another.

Our community's latest death. All from that one woman making a disgusting decision.

I skimmed through but I don't see where it mentions it all back to that one person. Not saying that isn't possible, the one lawyer spread it very badly here in southern NY.

 

[alaneatstictacs]

Well I’m going anon as I am pretty well known. I’m at Sturgis and have been here since Friday. Leaving this Friday. Rented a house and have been spending most of my time riding and it’s been great. Being careful with hand washing and masks unless eating.
Had two negative tests the week before I left and will test Saturday and next week as well. Will work from home for two weeks before I go back to work.
Covid is real. I know people who have had it. But feel I’m taking are of myself here.
that’s my 2 cents from someone on the ground.
p

 

[kdonnel]

I’m at Sturgis and have been here since Friday.

Hope you continue to have a GREAT time!

 

[tinatark]

Several of my friends are there. It's not what you see on TMZ. They have their motor coaches there, hang with the groups they came with, or are riding motorcycles with even fewer people. The rallies of thousands of people are much less than the media lets on.

 

[NotUrsula]

Well I’m going anon as I am pretty well known. I’m at Sturgis and have been here since Friday. Leaving this Friday. Rented a house and have been spending most of my time riding and it’s been great. Being careful with hand washing and masks unless eating.
Had two negative tests the week before I left and will test Saturday and next week as well. Will work from home for two weeks before I go back to work.
Covid is real. I know people who have had it. But feel I’m taking are of myself here.
that’s my 2 cents from someone on the ground.
p

Serious question: if you are staying in your rental home and not going out except to ride, and presumably are only socializing with a (hopefully) small number of people also staying in the house (and who are also presumably not attending the events & thus not multiplying your exposure) then why go to Sturgis at rally time?

Wouldn't you have that same experience any other summer week, and not have to pay the premium prices charged for the rally dates? If you are not attending any of the special events or even watching them in person from a distance, then what's the attraction of being there just right now -- the attraction that outweighs the risk, the traffic hassles & the added expense?

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm just trying to understand it. I'm a South Louisianian by birth, but I've lived away for a long time. I happen to love Carnival & Jazzfest, but I know many exiles who dislike these events and wouldn't attend them if you paid them to go. Those folks would never *choose* to go home to visit at just those times.

 

[alaneatstictacs]

Rally time is special. There are group rides and cool events. When else is there Topless Tuesday? Body painting. People watching. Got some cool T-shirt’s.
I’m not standing shoulder to shoulder at concerts

 

[MrsBooch]

Rally time is special. There are group rides and cool events. When else is there Topless Tuesday? Body painting. People watching. Got some cool T-shirt’s.
I’m not standing shoulder to shoulder at concerts

you're not - but are other people?

 

[gwynne]

you're not - but are other people?

Good q.
But surely the listed activities are masked and carefully socially distanced.

 

[DduzDis]

One thing I have come to realize is there are some judgmental people in this world and the keyboard has empowered them to wield their judgments onto anyone who doesn't think as they do. Armageddon was supposed to happen with Universal, WDW and SeaWorld opening. But, as pointed out there are no cases that pinpoint back to the theme parks (same news as the riots apparently). People attempted to shame me for having the audacity to live my life and head to WDW (on an airplane no less!) for an AP preview at MK and then opening day at MK. Guess what? We were vigilant every step of the way, nobody got sick and to quell your most important chimes...grandma is still alive and loved hearing my 7 yo DD tell her about our special daddy/daughter trip. We have some very cool memories and some CMs get paid to feed their own families. Life can indeed move forward.

I too have enjoyed myself at Sturgis in the past and have friends there right now. But as far as it 'being mostly indoors' that is just not correct. Last I rode through the Needles Highway, Custer State Park or even to Devil's Tower they were wide open spaces. Even at the campgrounds such as the Buffalo Chip where I have stayed, sleep areas are outdoors and so are the concerts. Can people congregate? Sure. Is it death soup all over town? Not likely and no different than any other gathering (I get you are trying to shut those down too). It's the same sentiment as the theme parks, if it is not for your cup of PBR to go into that area right now, don't go. It is really that simple. Please stop projecting your fear onto those who don't live in the same fear. Shutting everyone in indefinitely is counterproductive. It should be noted that if Sturgis is only expecting 250, 000 people that is only about a third of what would be experienced in more normal times. So they too have 'reduced capacity'.

 

[HeatherC]

One thing I have come to realize is there are some judgmental people in this world and the keyboard has empowered them to wield their judgments onto anyone who doesn't think as they do. Armageddon was supposed to happen with Universal, WDW and SeaWorld opening. But, as pointed out there are no cases that pinpoint back to the theme parks (same news as the riots apparently). People attempted to shame me for having the audacity to live my life and head to WDW (on an airplane no less!) for an AP preview at MK and then opening day at MK. Guess what? We were vigilant every step of the way, nobody got sick and to quell your most important chimes...grandma is still alive and loved hearing my 7 yo DD tell her about our special daddy/daughter trip. We have some very cool memories and some CMs get paid to feed their own families. Life can indeed move forward.

I too have enjoyed myself at Sturgis in the past and have friends there right now. But as far as it 'being mostly indoors' that is just not correct. Last I rode through the Needles Highway, Custer State Park or even to Devil's Tower they were wide open spaces. Even at the campgrounds such as the Buffalo Chip where I have stayed, sleep areas are outdoors and so are the concerts. Can people congregate? Sure. Is it death soup all over town? Not likely and no different than any other gathering (I get you are trying to shut those down too). It's the same sentiment as the as the theme parks, if it is not for your cup of PBR to go into that area right now, don't go. It is really that simple. Please stop projecting your fear onto those who don't live in the same fear. Shutting everyone in indefinitely is counterproductive. It should be noted that if Sturgis is only expecting 250, 000 people that is only about a third of what would be experienced in more normal times. So they too have 'reduced capacity'.

It really has nothing to do with people being judgemental. We are in a GLOBAL Heath crisis and more people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is as simple as that.

 

[DduzDis]

It really has nothing to do with people being judgemental. We are in a GLOBAL Heath crisis and more people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is as simple as that.

And I'd be curious what your keyboard has empowered you to do about heart disease, childhood hunger, suicide, drunk driving, alcoholism or the myriad other things that actually kill in larger numbers...

 

[HeatherC]

And I'd be curious what your keyboard has empowered you to do about heart disease, childhood hunger, suicide, drunk driving, alcoholism or the myriad other things that actually kill in larger numbers...

Those are all terrible. I am in no way taking away from that. But in the case of this virus, it has overtaken the ENTIRE world in a very short period of time and killed so many needlessly. It is simple because this is one area of public health that we can ALL do something every day to help. That is not the case in some of the examples you gave. I can donate money or give food to my local shelter to help with childhood hunger, but I can’t stop it every day in Africa, etc.

But with this virus, we can ALL help...every single day and every single time we leave our homes. It is simple and costs nothing! Wash hands, social distance and wear a mask.

If we all did this we could get it under control so more people do not need to get sick and die....especially the elderly and those who are already immune compromised. It is a simple concept for people to “just do their part” and social distance, wear a mask and wash hands. To me it is basic human compassion and requires very little effort.

There are so many problems facing the world which require attention. I get that. This, however, is one problem that requires VERY little effort on the part of all of us to at least try to help solve just ONE of the problems facing the world today. And doing our part to help solve one is a lot better than doing nothing. It really is as simple as that.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

And I'd be curious what your keyboard has empowered you to do about heart disease, childhood hunger, suicide, drunk driving, alcoholism or the myriad other things that actually kill in larger numbers...

Actually if this year is similar to past years in the U.S. Covid is already #4 for a full year's worth of deaths and it's only August. It will become #3 within the month and probably stay there. This will be the year end result despite only having 9.5 months to work with instead of 12. Only cancer and heart disease will stay ahead of it and you can't catch either from the person standing next to you. And you can't catch suicide, childhood hunger, or alcoholism (all of which covid has already passed) from the person standing next to you. And that other things kill people is a logical non starter. We spend boku bucks on research and treatments for cancer and heart disease and we've criminalized drunk driving. We can do things about covid at the same time we're doing all those other things for other things.

 

[DduzDis]

Those are all terrible. I am in no way taking away from that. But in the case of this virus, it has overtaken the ENTIRE world in a very short period of time and killed so many needlessly. It is simple because this is one area of public health that we can ALL do something every day to help. That is not the case in some of the examples you gave. I can donate money or give food to my local shelter to help with childhood hunger, but I can’t stop it every day in Africa, etc.

But with this virus, we can ALL help...every single day and every single time we leave our homes. It is simple and costs nothing! Wash hands, social distance and wear a mask.

If we all did this we could get it under control so more people do not need to get sick and die....especially the elderly and those who are already immune compromised. It is a simple concept for people to “just do their part” and social distance, wear a mask and wash hands. To me it is basic human compassion and requires very little effort on our parts.

Or....everyone is going to come into contact with it no matter how hard you try to evade a respiratory, airborne virus.

 

[TQ's]

My friend is out there working security at venues, he himself is a anti-masker, drove up from Central Florida to work and said maybe 2% of the attendees at the events and clubs have a mask on. It is the biggest covid-19 social experiment in the US happening right now, will be interesting to see what happens after this.

 

[robinb]

And I'd be curious what your keyboard has empowered you to do about heart disease, childhood hunger, suicide, drunk driving, alcoholism or the myriad other things that actually kill in larger numbers...

From the CDC:

Number of deaths for leading causes of death

• Heart disease: 647,457
• Cancer: 599,108
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
• Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
• Diabetes: 83,564
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

Also from the CDC:

TOTAL DEATHS 165,148
1,497 New Deaths*
*Compared to yesterday's data

Covid has killed more people IN FIVE MONTHS other than the top 3 leading causes of death in the US. It will pass "Accidents (unintentional injuries)" in a few days.

 

[HeatherC]

Or....everyone is going to come into contact with it no matter how hard you try to evade a respiratory, airborne virus.

We will most likely all come in contact with it in the future. I totally agree with you. But if we ALL did the three things I mentioned, it would allow us to get it under control, slow the progression and transmission rates so treatments and vaccines could be developed so many many more people don’t have to die from this stupid thing. We have lost almost 200,000 people here in our country alone. Maybe if we had all been social distancing and wearing masks half of them would still be alive. Even if doing that only saved one life, it is still worth it and costs us nothing as individuals.

I get that people want to get out there and live. We all do. And I am not saying people need to sit in their houses forever. But if all of us did our part and followed those three free simple guidelines we could all make a small difference and small differences add up to big things.

 

[robinb]

Actually if this year is similar to past years in the U.S. Covid is already #4 for a full year's worth of deaths and it's only August. It will become #3 within the month and probably stay there. This despite only having 9.5 months to work with instead of 12. Only cancer and heart disease will stay ahead of it and you can't catch either from the person standing next to you. And you can't catch suicide, childhood hunger, or alcoholism (all of which covid has already passed) from the person standing next to you. And that other things kill people is a logical non starter. We spend boku bucks on research and treatments for cancer and heart disease and we've criminalized drunk driving. We can do things about covid at the same time we're doing all those other things for other things.

It's actually only 5 months and not 9.5. There were few Covid cases and deaths as of March 13th, 2020.

 

[DduzDis]

From the CDC:

Also from the CDC:


Covid has killed more people IN FIVE MONTHS other than the top 3 leading causes of death in the US. It will pass "Accidents (unintentional injuries)" in a few days.

With the incentive for hospitals to mark deaths as Covid related I am afraid you are probably correct.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

It's actually only 5 months and not 9.5. There were few Covid cases and deaths as of March 13th, 2020.

It will have had 9.5 by the end of the year. Hence why the phrase comes after probably stay there. I edited to make it more clear.

Or....everyone is going to come into contact with it no matter how hard you try to evade a respiratory, airborne virus.

Just because there isn't a 100% iron clad method of evasion doesn't mean that masks and social distancing aren't helpful in lessoning that chance.

With the incentive for hospitals to mark deaths as Covid related I am afraid you are probably correct.

When reality goes against you, put out a conspiracy theory

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...id-19-deaths-might-be-undercounted-2020-08-13
Excess deaths indicate that we are under counting covid. Not over counting it.