Sturgis Motorcycle Rally...HUGE Crowds expected

[HeatherC]

Not so simple. It is your opinion that people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is certain politicians' opinion that people are getting sick and dying NEEDLESSLY as a result of people simply not following health guidelines. It is ex medical experts turned government agents' opinions that people are getting sick and dying needlessly. It is the MSM's opinion.

What it isn't is everyone's opinion. Some people's opinion is that we are in a global health crisis and people are getting sick and some of them are dying. Some people's opinion is to just stop being such a dirt ball. Wash your freakin hands, yes, even when you just walked out of the bathroom stall. Don't look at someone and cough or sneeze directly in their face. How hard is it? I don't do that. I wash my hands, working in a factory, very very often.

Some people's opinion is that all the germophobes bring it on themselves. Everyone's immune systems are so weak any more as they slather themselves with hand sanitizer every 15 minutes (that is sarcastic timing to make a point, in no way should that be taken that I think people stop every exactly 15 minutes and 0 seconds and use sanitizer. Disclaimer for when I'm called out on that...) Kids are constantly sick, way more than kids when I was growing up. They are packed full of pills these days and constantly sanitized.

See, that's the thing with opinions. Everyone has one and they are not all the same. Sure, there are a lot of people who's opinion that some medical experts that now work for the government have the credibility to give us health advice, but there are equally as many who's opinion is that those experts lost their credibility when they became agents of the government. Some have an opinion that masks are miracle devices and an equal amount who's opinion is they are worthless. It basically comes down to, not everyone blindly follows their government's and MSM's opinions as there is absolutely no credibility to anything any of them say.

We don't need masks. Essential workers need masks. If you're sick wear a mask. Everyone wear masks. Don't worry about masks, they don't protect you. Masks keep you from touching your face. Healthy people shouldn't wear masks. Masks don't protect you, they protect me. You don't know if you're healthy, wear a mask. It is not good for healthy people to wear masks. The experts really want me to follow their recommendations, but they sure do make it difficult. I think I'll just continue to be a grown up and wash my freakin hands and not sneeze on people.

But a lot of what you are saying is not so much opinion. It is based on scientific facts. People just don’t want to believe those facts, or in most cases be “bothered” by those facts. People decide it isn’t a big deal to them without taking into consideration that what might not be a big to themselves personally, could very well be life threatening to others. By others, I mean those who are at a higher risk. Those with obesity, lung issues, asthma, immune compromised, elderly, etc.. The people where it is a scientific fact that they have a greater chance of getting very sick and dying from this virus.

It is scientifically proven that wearing a mask protects other and can provide some protection for yourself too. It is a scientific fact that washing hands kills germs and viruses. It is a scientific fact that social distancing makes it much harder for the virus to be transmitted.
I don’t think it is so much opinion (although I do understand what you mean by that), but rather people having egocentric tendencies.

 

[mousefan73]

Just read that they are expecting about 250,000 people to attend this year with no mask requirement. I cannot believe that many people are that crazy that they just HAVE to be there this year and can’t skip a year. Anyone else think it should have been cancelled?

As someone who works as part of the devastated travel and tourism industry this just totally P !&@($($ Me off !!! It’s not just the United States it’s everywhere all over the world. let’s allow local and domestic events in groups to happen where people are out without masks: drinking partying, hanging out in large groups But at the same time let’s implement travel bans or quarantines.

God forbid a family of four wants to take a family vacation, or one wants to fly overseas to visit a loved one the haven’t seen in a year. Those are the “virus spreading“ ones?

Sorry I’m going off here but I work for an airline that is currently being devastated. Partially thanks to the UK again implementing quarantines for additional European countries. That’s just one example where the evil foreigner or vacationer or coming back is the virus carrier in the governments eyes but yet their own beaches are crowded, pubs are full and other illegal parties are going on within their own country. So let’s just shut down a complete industry and not deal with facts within our own borders.

Travel bands and limiting travel is not gonna be the cure to Covid globally. Even the WHO and other organizations have said that at this point there’s enough community spread within each nation globally with it no longer makes sense. Look in New Zealand/ Australia- they had one of the hardest and toughest travel bands border closures and lockdowns and their numbers are going back up. I wonder how many events legal or illegal took place within their own borders similar to the one that’s going to be taking place in South Dakota happened?

If you’re going to implement quarantines and travel bands shut everything down, Then you might see a positive change in trends

 

[NYCgrrl]

As someone who works as part of the devastated travel and tourism industry this just totally P !&@($($ Me off !!! It’s not just the United States it’s everywhere all over the world. let’s allow local and domestic events in groups to happen where people are out without masks: drinking partying, hanging out in large groups But at the same time let’s implement travel bans or quarantines.

God forbid a family of four wants to take a family vacation, or one wants to fly overseas to visit a loved one the haven’t seen in a year. Those are the “virus spreading“ ones?

Sorry I’m going off here but I work for an airline that is currently being devastated. Partially thanks to the UK again implementing quarantines for additional European countries. That’s just one example where the evil foreigner or vacationer or coming back is the virus carrier in the governments eyes but yet their own beaches are crowded, pubs are full and other illegal parties are going on within their own country. So let’s just shut down a complete industry and not deal with facts within our own borders.

Travel bands and limiting travel is not gonna be the cure to Covid globally. Even the WHO and other organizations have said that at this point there’s enough community spread within each nation globally with it no longer makes sense. Look in New Zealand/ Australia- they had one of the hardest and toughest travel bands border closures and lockdowns and their numbers are going back up. I wonder how many events legal or illegal took place within their own borders similar to the one that’s going to be taking place in South Dakota happened?

If you’re going to implement quarantines and travel bands shut everything down, Then you might see a positive change in trends

Agreeing that travel bans and travel limitations alone will not cure Covid but of course a vaccine will. Until that happens I think and the sciences back me up, that containment and limited contact are tools that need more consistent use.

 

[DduzDis]

Agreeing that travel bans and travel limitations alone will not cure Covid but of course a vaccine will. Until that happens I think and the sciences back me up, that containment and limited contact are tools that need more consistent use.

A vaccine might. We have a flu vaccine every year and it is never 100% effective.

 

[mousefan73]

A vaccine might. We have a flu vaccine every year and it is never 100% effective.

But is lowers risk, spread and death/severe illness to more managable/acceptable levels and more importantly reduces a global fear of something being out of control.

I am still dumbfounded and upset on how people are discussing opening schools safely, fine toothing industries ( cruises, airlines) to ensure everything is safe but then what the heck lets have a mass gathering in 1000s with no masks as if nothing is going on.... just makes me shake my head.

 

[NYCgrrl]

A vaccine might. We have a flu vaccine every year and it is never 100% effective.

Quite true. There is only one virus that has plagued humankind and has been eradicated outside of labs: smallpox.
Of course lesser symptoms or just not getting a full blown case of influenza is better than not having any vaccine. Fortunately advancements in medical care allows even those that the flu vaccines don’t work on a better chance of living.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

But a lot of what you are saying is not so much opinion. It is based on scientific facts. People just don’t want to believe those facts, or in most cases be “bothered” by those facts. People decide it isn’t a big deal to them without taking into consideration that what might not be a big to themselves personally, could very well be life threatening to others. By others, I mean those who are at a higher risk. Those with obesity, lung issues, asthma, immune compromised, elderly, etc.. The people where it is a scientific fact that they have a greater chance of getting very sick and dying from this virus.

It is scientifically proven that wearing a mask protects other and can provide some protection for yourself too. It is a scientific fact that washing hands kills germs and viruses. It is a scientific fact that social distancing makes it much harder for the virus to be transmitted.
I don’t think it is so much opinion (although I do understand what you mean by that), but rather people having egocentric tendencies.

EXACTLY

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

Well I’m going anon as I am pretty well known. I’m at Sturgis and have been here since Friday. Leaving this Friday. Rented a house and have been spending most of my time riding and it’s been great. Being careful with hand washing and masks unless eating.
Had two negative tests the week before I left and will test Saturday and next week as well. Will work from home for two weeks before I go back to work.
Covid is real. I know people who have had it. But feel I’m taking are of myself here.
that’s my 2 cents from someone on the ground.
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That is responsible of you, but how many there will be doing the same, what percentage would you estimate?

 

[alaneatstictacs]

That is responsible of you, but how many there will be doing the same, what percentage would you estimate?

10percent?
Lots of anti covid shirts.

 

[robinb]

South Dakota announced yesterday that at least one person who was at a bar for 5+ hours on 8/11 who later tested positive for Covid. They were able to transmit the virus at the time they were there.

https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=27179

 

[sam_gordon]

South Dakota announced yesterday that at least one person who was at a bar for 5+ hours on 8/11 who later tested positive for Covid. They were able to transmit the virus at the time they were there.

https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=27179

That can't be the only place he went, could it?

 

[Shelly F - Ohio]

It will be interesting to see how more come down with it. I feel bad for the folks that live in that town who had all those people there who did not live in that town and did not have a care in the world that they came and spread the virus.

 

[HeatherC]

I read that while they were expecting about 250,000 they actually had about 470,000 attend. That’s a lot of chance for spread...will be interesting to see if we hear of more cases. I can see people not saying they were in Sturgis if they come down with it.

 

[pxidst119]

I really don’t understand how this was allowed to go on. That’s an incredible amount of people.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

And I'd be curious what your keyboard has empowered you to do about heart disease, childhood hunger, suicide, drunk driving, alcoholism or the myriad other things that actually kill in larger numbers...

Actually the only thing that has killed more people than COVID are heart disease and cancer, and you can’t get those from other people.

 

[kdonnel]

Actually the only thing that has killed more people than COVID are heart disease and cancer, and you can’t get those from other people.

You get both of those through second hand smoke. There are many people who try to kill their kids, family, friends, and strangers every day and never think twice about the ramifications of their drug habit. Because tobacco generates huge amounts of tax money it’s all ok!

 

[_19disnA]

https://news.yahoo.com/warning-issued-bar-patron-had-164753481.html
An example of what can happen when someone insists on 'living their life' as I hear some keep saying without regard to how their actions can impact others.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

https://news.yahoo.com/warning-issued-bar-patron-had-164753481.html
An example of what can happen when someone insists on 'living their life' as I hear some keep saying without regard to how their actions can impact others.

A poster already mentioned this case yesterday on this thread

 

[DduzDis]

https://news.yahoo.com/warning-issued-bar-patron-had-164753481.html
An example of what can happen when someone insists on 'living their life' as I hear some keep saying without regard to how their actions can impact others.

What can also happen is that he lives on 5 acres in Idaho and won't see another body for weeks... I mean if we are talking about possibilities.

 

[_19disnA]

^^ The point of the article was the 5.5 hrs he spent in a saloon interacting with others. Returning to 5 acres in Idaho (or wherever he is from) is less of a concern then all those he came in contact with.