Some people are so rude!

[Disneyliscious]

You stated your opinion, I stated mine. Bottom line regarding your posts. You can't have it both ways. In your opinion, according to your post on this thread, pregnant women, disabled people and the elderly made a choice to go to Disney so they have no right to expect a person to give up their seat or complain if they must stand. Basically buck up and deal with the way other people choose to act.

On the other thread you went on and on about how inconvenienced you felt by the large amount of strollers, people who brought babies to Disney and anyone over the age of five in a stroller. How in your opinion something needed to be done and people should alter the way they vacation to make your vacation more pleasant.

These two opinions are contradictory. On one hand you're telling others it's their choice so no whining, no expectations, and on the other hand you're whining about a choice you made knowing full well strollers, babies, etc. are all part of Disney. Hypocritical and self-serving, both of which in my book are rude. Just my opinion.

For the record we are born and bred Northerners and both our DS and DD have been taught to give up their seats for others who need it more. Then again, they also address their elders by sir and ma'am and say please and thank-you. They're weird that way.

You are really uptight aren't you? Any person knows there would be strollers at Disney. What I didn't know was that there would be so many large, unnecessary strollers at Disney. I have never even seen strollers like that.

I sure did make a choice to go.....and never once even gave a rude look to any person pushing a stroller. In fact, I smiled bcause I was glad it wasn't me.

We are all allowed to come here and post, whine, discuss, what have you. Thats kinda the point of this board. We all have different opinions, views, cultures, etc. No one is going to be the same.

I never said I *expected* there to be no strollers in Disney, except for the wish of one adult night of MNSSHP. I did say I was tired of being *expected* to give up my seat (if I rode a bus) to someone who was otherwise healthy.....and pregnant IS healthy (if its not.....its probably not a good idea to be there).

People have groaned and moaned for years aout equal rights. You choosing to board a full bus and not getting a seat IS equal rights. I have just as much right to it as you do. If I didn't want to stand, I'd wait for the next bus and be one of the first on it. Life is all about choices. Your (not you personally, speaking as a whole) lack of planning does not constitute a given necessity which I must adhere to.

Everyone has the ability to sit on a bus, monorail, train, whatever. EVERYONE. Maybe the real manners here would be for those people to just wait for the next bus instead of *expecting* someone to give up their seat.
Ever think of it that way?

 

[contemporarymom]

You are really uptight aren't you? Any person knows there would be strollers at Disney. What I didn't know was that there would be so many large, unnecessary strollers at Disney. I have never even seen strollers like that.

I sure did make a choice to go.....and never once even gave a rude look to any person pushing a stroller. In fact, I smiled bcause I was glad it wasn't me.

We are all allowed to come here and post, whine, discuss, what have you. Thats kinda the point of this board. We all have different opinions, views, cultures, etc. No one is going to be the same.

I never said I *expected* there to be no strollers in Disney, except for the wish of one adult night of MNSSHP. I did say I was tired of being *expected* to give up my seat (if I rode a bus) to someone who was otherwise healthy.....and pregnant IS healthy (if its not.....its probably not a good idea to be there).

People have groaned and moaned for years aout equal rights. You choosing to board a full bus and not getting a seat IS equal rights. I have just as much right to it as you do. If I didn't want to stand, I'd wait for the next bus and be one of the first on it. Life is all about choices. Your (not you personally, speaking as a whole) lack of planning does not constitute a given necessity which I must adhere to.

Everyone has the ability to sit on a bus, monorail, train, whatever. EVERYONE. Maybe the real manners here would be for those people to just wait for the next bus instead of *expecting* someone to give up their seat.
Ever think of it that way?

Me uptight? Nah, and coming from you that's laughable. You've never seen strollers that large? Must not get out much. How unfortunate for you.

You preaching about equal rights is rather amusing. People have a right to bring their big strollers, their infants and put a six year old in a stroller just as you have the right not to be empathetic and give up your seat to a person who may need it more than you. That is your right. IMO it's selfish and self-serving, but it is your right and as you said, message boards are places that people can state their opinions.

 

[39CINDERELLA]

Just for the record, it doesn't matter what your perception of rude is, it comes down one fundamental element. Do unto others as you would want done to you (The Golden Rule).

I am a woman and I most always give up my seat on the bus even though I'm tired, sweaty and my feet are covered in blisters. I always yell at DH for not offering to stand up. Call me a non-feminist but I think that capable men should offer their seats to the elderly, small children, women holding small children, or pregnant women. It is not about who was there first, it is about what is right (morally). I'm tired of all the people on here complaining about how someone might have a disability that is not apparent - that may well be the case but I can guess that not ALL people on the bus have hidden disabilities.

Manners have nothing to do with North/South. I was raised in the North (NY) and now live in the South (NC) and can tell you that I have better manners than most people I come across down here. It all comes down to how your parents raised you (not what part of the country you are from). I was under the assumption that people in the south are more courtesy and have that "southern hospitality" - well let me tell you, that doesn't even apply anymore. People in general (north or south) are just plain rude. I have lost faith in humanity, seriously.

A lot of these threads remind me of how rude and judgemental people are and how they manipulate the situation to benefit themselves or make themselves look better.

I can only live for me and believe me when I say that I will totally raise my children (if I ever have any) to have the same morals that I was raised with which is to TRY to be kind to everyone and do the best you can to help others. If that means, giving up your seat to an elderly lady, so be it. People who are so quick to say that we shouldn't have to give up our seats to others, because we got there first, are only saying that so they will not feel guilty for all the times they haven't offered their seat to someone else. I can't believe how many people are all about themselves now. This is what is wrong with the world...it's all about me, me, me. I'm so done with people like that!

Flame me if you want, but seriously, if everyone had that same mentality to help others to the best of your ability and stop worrying about "ME", the world would be such a better place.

thank you! well put....it is not where you live, but how you were raised.

 

[contemporarymom]

Just for the record, it doesn't matter what your perception of rude is, it comes down one fundamental element. Do unto others as you would want done to you (The Golden Rule).

I am a woman and I most always give up my seat on the bus even though I'm tired, sweaty and my feet are covered in blisters. I always yell at DH for not offering to stand up. Call me a non-feminist but I think that capable men should offer their seats to the elderly, small children, women holding small children, or pregnant women. It is not about who was there first, it is about what is right (morally). I'm tired of all the people on here complaining about how someone might have a disability that is not apparent - that may well be the case but I can guess that not ALL people on the bus have hidden disabilities.

Manners have nothing to do with North/South. I was raised in the North (NY) and now live in the South (NC) and can tell you that I have better manners than most people I come across down here. It all comes down to how your parents raised you (not what part of the country you are from). I was under the assumption that people in the south are more courtesy and have that "southern hospitality" - well let me tell you, that doesn't even apply anymore. People in general (north or south) are just plain rude. I have lost faith in humanity, seriously.

A lot of these threads remind me of how rude and judgemental people are and how they manipulate the situation to benefit themselves or make themselves look better.

I can only live for me and believe me when I say that I will totally raise my children (if I ever have any) to have the same morals that I was raised with which is to TRY to be kind to everyone and do the best you can to help others. If that means, giving up your seat to an elderly lady, so be it. People who are so quick to say that we shouldn't have to give up our seats to others, because we got there first, are only saying that so they will not feel guilty for all the times they haven't offered their seat to someone else. I can't believe how many people are all about themselves now. This is what is wrong with the world...it's all about me, me, me. I'm so done with people like that!

Flame me if you want, but seriously, if everyone had that same mentality to help others to the best of your ability and stop worrying about "ME", the world would be such a better place.

Terrific post and I completely agree. Unfortunately not everyone feels this way. These days it seems a large percent of people have major entitlement issues. A sad reflection on society but none the less true.

 

[brunette8706]

Your "gut" is always right? How would you know that? Medical records, or just some inner voice?

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Believe me I know. We'll just keep it at that.

 

[Wall-E1]

thank you! well put....it is not where you live, but how you were raised.

What's that supposed to mean? I was raised by a pack of wild dingos. I think that I turned out okay. Except for my inbred instinct to chase a squirrel up a tree and bathe myself in my own saliva, I think I turned out just fine. Manners are learned, even if not raised properly. There were many times my parents would snap at me after a kill. Being the smallest, I would basically just get the bone after all the meat had been picked off of it. Yet, I treat my son differently. We share the squirrel equally. So, it's more about taking personal responsibility for your actions. On our journey into adulthood, we learn through various means, not just our parents, the difference between right and wrong.

 

[39CINDERELLA]

What's that supposed to mean? I was raised by a pack of wild dingos. I think that I turned out okay. Except for my inbred instinct to chase a squirrel up a tree and bathe myself in my own saliva, I think I turned out just fine. Manners are learned, even if not raised properly. There were many times my parents would snap at me after a kill. Being the smallest, I would basically just get the bone after all the meat had been picked off of it. Yet, I treat my son differently. We share the squirrel equally. So, it's more about taking personal responsibility for your actions. On our journey into adulthood, we learn through various means, not just our parents, the difference between right and wrong.

see your point too....you are too funny btw

 

[39CINDERELLA]

What's that supposed to mean? I was raised by a pack of wild dingos. I think that I turned out okay. Except for my inbred instinct to chase a squirrel up a tree and bathe myself in my own saliva, I think I turned out just fine. Manners are learned, even if not raised properly. There were many times my parents would snap at me after a kill. Being the smallest, I would basically just get the bone after all the meat had been picked off of it. Yet, I treat my son differently. We share the squirrel equally. So, it's more about taking personal responsibility for your actions. On our journey into adulthood, we learn through various means, not just our parents, the difference between right and wrong.

yes you are right...not only does it take your parents, but the the whole village..as the saying goes

 

[glasslipper]

I do...I do!!! I have a rather large butt..not huge..just bubbly...anyways..Take it like you would a crowded dance floor...swing that thang like its goin outta style. If you dont knock em outta tha way...you"ll deffinatly scar em outta tha way!

Were you the one who "butt"ed me outta the way on the MK tram?
If so, I now have a few choice things I'd like to say to you!!(just kidding).
From my earlier post about the woman who did slam her big ole butt into me on purpose:
I still can't believe the nerve of some people. Excuses such as cultural differences, difference of opinions, manners related, etc. are just that, excuses. Rude is rude. I'm sorry , I don't care who you are, where you are from, what emotional or health issues you may have, if you physically slam yourself into me without even a semblance of regret, I'm going to not just think you are rude, I know you are rude.

 

[jjarman]

I haven't read every single post here but I have read a lot and read posts on similar threads. Here is my opinion for what it's worth. It all comes down to manners. Those that are raised to give up their seat for a lady or elderly person may want to do that. It is just plain good manners. BUT..... good manners also means you don't look down on someone who chooses not to give up their seat for whatever reason.

 

[Boncho]

I haven't read every single post here but I have read a lot and read posts on similar threads. Here is my opinion for what it's worth. It all comes down to manners. Those that are raised to give up their seat for a lady or elderly person may want to do that. It is just plain good manners. BUT..... good manners also means you don't look down on someone who chooses not to give up their seat for whatever reason.

 

[big_red_s]

At Festival of the Lion King this Sept. four big (tall & wide) people sat in the front row. If you've never been, the theatre is small with metal benches. Most of the theatre is stadium seating except...you guessed it...the first 5-6 rows.

A theatre full of kids and they...sit in the front.

I know it's their "right" but it killed me because doing that wouldn't even have crossed my mind.

 

[inkkognito]

It's even worse when "butt slammers" are also drunk out of their minds. We haven't had that happen at Disney, but we were at Busch for Howl-O-Scream recently and sitting at the magic show, which has communal picnic-style tables (you can eat while watching). DH and I were sitting at the end of the last table, with room in front of us. I had been sitting across from him but got up to use the restroom. The Drunk Family (six adults) comes along and decides to take over all the rest of the table, including my spot. I arrived just as one guy was sitting down in my spot while the rest had gone to get food. I told him it was taken (which DH had already told him) and pointed to my drink. He moved down, but the rest of the clan arrived and one of the women nearly sat down in my lap! When I said something, she started in with a drunken rant. Being a cognitive therapist, I smiled and said, "I don't engage with people like you." She continued her ranting, so I just started singing "La la la la la" until she finally shut up. Meanwhile, one of the guys "accidentally" bumped my husband with his tray and started getting in his face. I told hubby, "Do NOT engage with a drunk fool, just go get Security." He did so, and the drunks all started yelling and ranting at the cop who came over until he kicked them all out. They returned two minutes later; at first we thought they just came to get their food, but the guys got in my husband's face again and the cop was on them like white on rice. This time, they didn't just get kicked out of the show...it was out of the park for them, and possibly a trip to the PD. I love it when people like that get what they deserve.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

lol, i love you singing lalalalalalala to a grown up!

 

[inkkognito]

What's that supposed to mean? I was raised by a pack of wild dingos. I think that I turned out okay.

Just more proof that dingos eating babies is merely an ugly rumor to defame dingos.

 

[inkkognito]

lol, i love you singing lalalalalalala to a grown up!

The whole time I was doing it, I was thinking of the Mad TV "Vancom Lady." Nothing is more frustrating to a rude person than someone who refuses to engage and enable them further in their rudeness.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

The whole time I was doing it, I was thinking of the Mad TV "Vancom Lady." Nothing is more frustrating to a rude person than someone who refuses to engage and enable them further in their rudeness.

lol, I agree. It does take more patience than I have sometimes, though. It would have been better if you had your eyes closed and your hands over your ears, though!

 

[BabyEars]

I just got back from a quick trip to Disney a week ago. I was amazed at how rude people were. I realize it was very hot and crowded but I have never seen so many rude adults in all my life. Here I am trying to teach my children to have good manners while there are adults cutting in line, pushing my kids out of the way, cutting my father off in his wheelchair, and pushing my stroller. I was SHOCKED and I have to say it really does take away from the magic. Unfortunately, this was my H first trip to WDW.

 

[luvthemouse71]

What's that supposed to mean? I was raised by a pack of wild dingos. I think that I turned out okay. Except for my inbred instinct to chase a squirrel up a tree and bathe myself in my own saliva, I think I turned out just fine. Manners are learned, even if not raised properly. There were many times my parents would snap at me after a kill. Being the smallest, I would basically just get the bone after all the meat had been picked off of it. Yet, I treat my son differently. We share the squirrel equally. So, it's more about taking personal responsibility for your actions. On our journey into adulthood, we learn through various means, not just our parents, the difference between right and wrong.

First off, at least you bathe yourself..ever been to WDW and smell someone who doesn't wear deodorant? And hey, chasing squirrels up trees is good exercise, good that you engage in this behavior with your son. This way, you won't be taking up an ECV because of weight, and your son won't expect to ride in a stroller until he's 15.
Give me a familiy of dingos over Brazilian tour groups, and the stroller terrorists any day.

 

[dolphindan1]

I appreciate your response. I am all for common courtesy and chilvalry. My son pulls my chair out at dinner and opens my door (if my hubby hasn't already). I work hard for them and they treat me well. It's just that on the bus, everyone is tired and gripey and I'm in excellent health. If someone is standing that looks like they're about to fall over from exhaustion, I would feel horrible sitting in my seat because I'm a woman. That's all. So, thank you!

Your son sounds like a little gentleman....dont ever let him lose that....