Some people are so rude!

[Robindianne]

I am one of the people that you are commenting about. I am a woman. And, if you offer me your seat, I will VERY POLITEY say no thank you. My son and I will be standing the entire ride, unless there are extra seats. I would also be standing if I were pregnant. It isn't a disability! I appreciate the thought, and, am not a feminist, but I am an able bodied person just like you. My hubby isn't (hidden disability), and he'll still try to offer up his seat.

Feminism = the insane notion that women are people. Yep, I'd hate to claim myself as one of them too.

 

[mjkacmom]

...really?...

Ah, this has been discussed by philosophers since the beginning of time, far and wide, and it has finally been answered on the DIS.

 

[rie'smom]

People in different parts of the country have been raised with differing standards.
Me? 51 years old and Southern through and through
If I see an elderly person, a woman or a man holding a wiggly toddler, or someone who just looks plain tired, I'm going to offer them my seat and have done so.
Manners= consideration for others no matter where you were raised.

 

[cmaee]

This is what I was wondering. Is she saying DH (and sons) has to stand because it's "good manners" for someone who has male genitals to stand simply because of the gender of genitals? So if a person has female genitals, she's not rude for sitting just by virtue of the type of genitals she has? Rude shouldn't depend on what's between your legs should it? I don't get it.

(hope "genitals" is ok to use. Didn't want to use the v or the p word here cause I assume they are not ok to use on the Dis )

I already responded to this once, but I will do it again...

Sure I will...but right now my daughter is 2. On our last two trips, she was 15 months and 29 months. I don't think she should be standing up on a bus right now. In fact, she sits on my lap when we are on the bus. When she is older, she and I will be standing up for people who look like they need a seat.

I said that it my job to teach my children manners, not just my boys. Somehow that phrase was missed in your reading of my statement. Giving up your seat isn't a chivalrous gesture, but a polite one. Nowhere in my original statement did I indicate that it was a gender specific responsibility. It just so happens that my children who are old enough to stand up on the bus on either side of their dad happen to be boys, while the youngest child who still sits on my lap happens to be a girl.

 

[Wall-E1]

This is what I was wondering. Is she saying DH (and sons) has to stand because it's "good manners" for someone who has male genitals to stand simply because of the gender of genitals? So if a person has female genitals, she's not rude for sitting just by virtue of the type of genitals she has? Rude shouldn't depend on what's between your legs should it? I don't get it.

(hope "genitals" is ok to use. Didn't want to use the v or the p word here cause I assume they are not ok to use on the Dis )

What about hermaphrodites? What do you think proper protocol in that situation is?

 

[ILoveDisney-Angie]

Just for the record, it doesn't matter what your perception of rude is, it comes down one fundamental element. Do unto others as you would want done to you (The Golden Rule).

I am a woman and I most always give up my seat on the bus even though I'm tired, sweaty and my feet are covered in blisters. I always yell at DH for not offering to stand up. Call me a non-feminist but I think that capable men should offer their seats to the elderly, small children, women holding small children, or pregnant women. It is not about who was there first, it is about what is right (morally). I'm tired of all the people on here complaining about how someone might have a disability that is not apparent - that may well be the case but I can guess that not ALL people on the bus have hidden disabilities.

Manners have nothing to do with North/South. I was raised in the North (NY) and now live in the South (NC) and can tell you that I have better manners than most people I come across down here. It all comes down to how your parents raised you (not what part of the country you are from). I was under the assumption that people in the south are more courtesy and have that "southern hospitality" - well let me tell you, that doesn't even apply anymore. People in general (north or south) are just plain rude. I have lost faith in humanity, seriously.

A lot of these threads remind me of how rude and judgemental people are and how they manipulate the situation to benefit themselves or make themselves look better.

I can only live for me and believe me when I say that I will totally raise my children (if I ever have any) to have the same morals that I was raised with which is to TRY to be kind to everyone and do the best you can to help others. If that means, giving up your seat to an elderly lady, so be it. People who are so quick to say that we shouldn't have to give up our seats to others, because we got there first, are only saying that so they will not feel guilty for all the times they haven't offered their seat to someone else. I can't believe how many people are all about themselves now. This is what is wrong with the world...it's all about me, me, me. I'm so done with people like that!

Flame me if you want, but seriously, if everyone had that same mentality to help others to the best of your ability and stop worrying about "ME", the world would be such a better place.

 

[ILoveDisney-Angie]

What about hermaphrodites? What do you think proper protocol in that situation is?

Wall-E1 - I saw that and almost spit out my drink. You are too funny!

 

[ILoveDisney-Angie]

And one last thing:

I am SO tired of having to watch everything I say on here for fear one person will be the exception and be offended. Everyone has or knows someone who knows someone with an extenuating circumstance. I don't intend to be disrespectful if I come across that way, but some people are so defensive and ready to argue.

 

[luvthemouse71]

This just my opinion about those who think it's rude to save a table while someone else in your group goes to order. If those people are travelling with others then they also have a chance to save a table and have someone order the food, however if they choose not to do that why should we feel guilty because we were smart enough to think about doing that?

Because we live in a society where common sense is in short supply, and everyone has easily bruised feelings. This is rude of me I'm sure, but I don't care. I don't knock over kids or the elderly, I say please and thank you etc. But sorry, I fail to see how doing things the more efficient way is rude.

Regarding hermaphrodites and seats on the bus..that's a toughie. For all you know, the person that looks like a pregnant woman giving you the stinkeye because he/she wants your seat could very well be a hermaphrodite with a big gut. What about the pregnant man that was in the news a few months back? Would people still give him a seat? Do drag queens get a seat ? This is why I think if people want a seat on the dang bus and the first one is crowded, wait for the next one. Very, very simple.

 

[ogreenlee]

i'm tellin' y'all. we southerners get a package at birth of fake manners, and we apply them often, while immediately turning around and talking smack behind your back. we're good at it, we're famous at it, and i'm quite proud of it. it's not an easy thing to do.

we will get up out of our seats and hold the door open for you in a heartbeat, but will turn around, roll our eyes and then bless your heart as soon as we're done!

 

[Wall-E1]

Because we live in a society where common sense is in short supply, and everyone has easily bruised feelings. This is rude of me I'm sure, but I don't care. I don't knock over kids or the elderly, I say please and thank you etc. But sorry, I fail to see how doing things the more efficient way is rude.

Regarding hermaphrodites and seats on the bus..that's a toughie. For all you know, the person that looks like a pregnant woman giving you the stinkeye because he/she wants your seat could very well be a hermaphrodite with a big gut. What about the pregnant man that was in the news a few months back? Would people still give him a seat? Do drag queens get a seat ? This is why I think if people want a seat on the dang bus and the first one is crowded, wait for the next one. Very, very simple.

You've brought up some very deep, philosophical questions. The only one I can answer with any certainty is that of drag queens. They do not get a seat, as they are simply men dressed up as women. Of course, the one exception to this rule would be drag queens that are dressed as Bette Midler. Everyone must rise for the divine, Miss M.

 

[squirrel]

If it looked like we would have to stand then I waited for the next bus. The reason-my niece would be scared to stand while the bus was moving. She gets frightened easily and hardly went on any rides while at WDW and standing while the bus is moving would not be good.

If you want to talk about rude- we were at Canada and my niece was waiting her turn for the CM to give her a mask to color. The CM finished signing passports and then a group of 4 other children arrived and needed passports signed, she signed all of them and then the CM switched jobs with another CM. Then another family with 2 kids arrived and the CM was helping them. I finally had had it and went around the desk and got a mask and handed it to my niece and said to her that she would have to stand up for herself or we would be here all day!

 

[Robindianne]

What about hermaphrodites? What do you think proper protocol in that situation is?

 

[bwilcox]

Isn't it funny how some Southern women, mostly my mother's age, can insult someone but make it OK by adding "bless their heart?"
Example that I've heard recently: That girl is as homely as can be, bless her little heart!"
It's like the person that posted earlier (this thread or the other? I can't remember) that she was raised in the South and had manners, so she taught her child to give their seat on the bus to others (good thing to do) but then loudly bashed the others on the bus who weren't giving up their seats (making her the rude one now).

 

[ILoveDisney-Angie]

Isn't it funny how some Southern women, mostly my mother's age, can insult someone but make it OK by adding "bless their heart?"

That "bless their heart" saying drives me crazy! My mom taught her parrot to say that just to annoy me. Imagine hearing that on repeat.

 

[brunette8706]

And one last thing:

I am SO tired of having to watch everything I say on here for fear one person will be the exception and be offended. Everyone has or knows someone who knows someone with an extenuating circumstance. I don't intend to be disrespectful if I come across that way, but some people are so defensive and ready to argue.

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I totally agree with you on this one! Some people will get defensive on a drop of a hat. I do usually give people the benefit of the doubt (ECV's etc.) but sometimes I go with my gut and my gut is always, ALWAYS right! There are people out there that truly will cheat the system.

 

[ogreenlee]

That "bless their heart" saying drives me crazy! My mom taught her parrot to say that just to annoy me. Imagine hearing that on repeat.

bless your heart.

 

[Dsny4fun]

I agree with you here. We are a larger family. At CS rest. most of my family will go find a table and wait for me to bring the food back. This is a normal and acceptable practice and nothing like what the OP experienced. I think six extra people in the ordering line is far worse than saving a table for five minutes waiting for food. I also don't want to be walking around with all that food looking for a table and have a greater chance of tripping over or spilling something. It costs a small fortune to feed my family.

I agree with you 100%...it is absolutly acceptable to hold a table for 5 or 10 minutes while others in your party are getting the food.

For anyone who has a problem with this...the solution is table service.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

You've brought up some very deep, philosophical questions. The only one I can answer with any certainty is that of drag queens. They do not get a seat, as they are simply men dressed up as women. Of course, the one exception to this rule would be drag queens that are dressed as Bette Midler. Everyone must rise for the divine, Miss M.

what about women who just look like drag queens? In addition to ultrasounds I think he bus need to have a "find willie" machine to see if it is a drag queen or just a hairy glam woman in high heels

 

[Dsny4fun]

I don't consider it rude, but Disney is going try something new at some of the walk ups. When you enter, they will give you a menu, when you get your food, someone will then escort you to a table. They hope to eliminate the saving of the table and chairs. Be interesting to see how this works.

When I was there in Sept..At Pecos Bill they were giving out menus when you walked in to save time when ordering...but they did NOT escort anyone to a table. And yes i had my 16 yo son hold the table while i got the food.
I dont consider it rude to hold a table for 5 min.