Seven Dwarves So Close...

[ucfknight]

Isn't Magic Kingdom intended to be a kid's park? Especially Fantasy Land? I'm just a bit confused as to why people would critique the addition of a family roller coaster to a park geared towards family and kids.

I agree 100%. From all indications, this ride is going to be a big hit among its target audience. It looks like a fun family coaster with thrills and length that will put it between the Barnstormer and Big Thunder (although much closer to Big Thunder).

I don't understand the continuous hatred of this ride from a select few just because it isn't the ride they wanted. If you want Disney to build a thrill ride, it isn't going to be in Fantasyland. If you are expected something really intense, you aren't spending your vacation dollars very wisely by wasting them at Disney World. Go to Busch Gardens and enjoy their mind blowing coasters instead.

 

[rastuso]

I'm not trying to antagonize here; I am 100% interested and curious about the answers to these questions. 1 - Is Splash Mountain really a big thrill ride? I just don't see it that way and am curious to know if I am in the minority here. I like Splash mountain but find just about any coaster I've ever been on to be more thrilling than SM. I'm not looking to be insulted because I think this way. The ride is a thrill compared to most things in the MK, but overall, it doesn't get my blood pumping. 2 - Are you a Disney hater, former Disney lover who is upset with the direction it is headed, an objective observer who just likes comment....what is your basis? I only ask because many of your posts seem to have a negative undertone. Again, I am just trying to gain an understanding of the posts I am reading and what is behind them. Based on some posts I have seen, it appears that you simply are anti-Disney (which is fine); I'm just want to make sure I don't have you all wrong and do not discount your opinion as one that hold bias against anything Disney Does. 3 - Isn't Magic Kingdom intended to be a kid's park? Especially Fantasy Land? I'm just a bit confused as to why people would critique the addition of a family roller coaster to a park geared towards family and kids.

Splash is a thrill ride for sure. I've seen plenty of people agree it's the wildest coaster style drop at WDW that doesn't require a bathing suit. To kids, and scaredy cats, it's a huge drop. Add in the laughing place drop, and other small drops, and how can it not be a thrill ride? It's not a huge thrill ride for sure, but nothing at WDW is.

I've been visiting WDW regularly for damn near 40 years. I love it. I'm hitting DL Parsi soon, hopefully, and have been to Tokyo DL. I am incredibly unhappy with what WDW has been doing for the last 2 years with FP, and their complete lack of new E tickets is getting ridiculous. Splash, that big thrill ride, is almost 20 years old, and the last BIG ride built at MK, and in that time, attendance has probably almost doubled. Disney has been squeezing the coal for a long time. I guess, for the diamonds in the Dwarf mine.

The Magic Kingdom is a park for all ages. If you have kids, it's about them, if you have teens, it's not about little kids. If you are a young couple, it's not about kids. If you are empty nesters, it's not about kids. Especially at almost $100 a day. However, I do think they have thrown in the towel, let Uni take the reigns on a lot of slices of the population, and they ARE focusing on just kids. As someone without a young child now, that means I see a park that isn't catering to me at all, and is rationing my enjoyment to make kids and late sleepers happy instead of me. What's not to love?

-Jason

 

[ucfknight]

However, I do think they have thrown in the towel, let Uni take the reigns on a lot of slices of the population, and they ARE focusing on just kids. As someone without a young child now, that means I see a park that isn't catering to me at all, and is rationing my enjoyment to make kids and late sleepers happy instead of me. What's not to love?

You should be REALLY happy they decided to can Pixie Hollow and built this instead.

 

[rastuso]

I agree 100%. From all indications, this ride is going to be a big hit among its target audience. It looks like a fun family coaster with thrills and length that will put it between the Barnstormer and Big Thunder (although much closer to Big Thunder). I don't understand the continuous hatred of this ride from a select few just because it isn't the ride they wanted. If you want Disney to build a thrill ride, it isn't going to be in Fantasyland. If you are expected something really intense, you aren't spending your vacation dollars very wisely by wasting them at Disney World. Go to Busch Gardens and enjoy their mind blowing coasters instead.

Don't forget, 2 dark rides that WERE long, with good stories, were destroyed for the Dwarf coaster to exist. And as mentioned before, Fantasyland in LA has one heck of a thrill ride, and Tokyos has an amazing high tech dark ride.

And, add another person here comparing it to BTMRR.

-Jason

 

[FLchick415]

Forgive me if I'm totally misunderstanding, but...you're mad because Disney is making kids happy?

 

[ucfknight]

Don't forget, 2 dark rides that WERE long, with good stories, were destroyed for the Dwarf coaster to exist.

Which 2 dark rides were destroyed for the Dwarf coaster?
The only thing that was directly destroyed for the coaster was Pooh's Playful Spot playground.

 

[ucfknight]

And, add another person here comparing it to BTMRR.

What part of my statement is inaccurate?

"It looks like a fun family coaster with thrills and length that will put it between the Barnstormer and Big Thunder (although much closer to Big Thunder)."

 

[delmar411]

Which 2 dark rides were destroyed for the Dwarf coaster?
The only thing that was directly destroyed for the coaster was Pooh's Playful Spot playground.

Snow White was taken out as well since they didn't want 2 Snow White rides next to each other. Not sure what else was taken away due to the coaster though.

 

[ucfknight]

Snow White was taken out as well since they didn't want 2 Snow White rides next to each other. Not sure what else was taken away due to the coaster though.

They decided to close Snow White's Scary Adventure...but they didn't HAVE to do so in order for the Mine Train to exist. They certainly could have kept both rides...one from Snow White's perspective and one from the Dwarfs'. They decided a meet and greet area was better than keeping the old ride.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

People keep comparing it to Big Thunder like that's a bad thing. We should be so lucky,

 

[bobbie68]

Hi,

I forgot where the post was but someone mentioned that ppl will be more disappointed with the dark section. I have to agree with this. I always figured it was going to be a family type coaster on the outside with not much thrills,. However, I thought the dark section would be longer.

Oh well we will see. I would not wait in a long line for this but if I can get a chance to ride it without a long wait I will check it out.

Now if you want to catch a cool coaster with a really good dark section you have to try Verbolten at Bush Gardens Virginia.

Have a great day!

 

[Mad Hattered]

It's ASTONISHING how you can tell all of that by just looking at a picture.

I will break it down for you tonight when I get home from work and have access to my picture site. It's not rocket science, but you can keep on pretending it is if you like.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

I posted the pic last week. It doesn't matter, tons of people still think there is some payoff, like a huge witch animatron, with a cauldron. But it ain't happening. This is a Dwarf coaster, and their story is mining gems. You see that scene, and that is all. Disney is being pretty slimy with those cuts, and are successfully fooling a LOT of people.

And it is also clear in this video that the awesome rocking motion is extremely minimal.
-Jason

Disney isn't fooling anyone. And neither are you. No one was in the cars so they wouldn't move much.

Plenty of PP had very high expectations. They seem to be silent now.

There will be a lot of folks getting off the ride with fake smiles, and internal thoughts of "that's it? Really?" A 2 hour wait?

This ride is and always has been two barnstormers with a dark show scene in the middle. I'm not upset at the ride, but at Disney, with this being all they think they need to do for new rides now. The last thing the MK needed was a $100 million kiddie coaster. It, and the other 3 parks desperately need big, high throughput rides that make everyone happy. Not a ride you must spend one of 3 FP+ to ride to make junior happy! who then will say "let's ride it again!", and will be none to happy when they are told that ain't happening this trip.

-Jason

I didn't know God posted on this forum. Who else would know what is in people's hearts in the future when they get off a ride no one has ridden yet!!! You've got to be kidding! Your hate for Disney is blinding you. You spit all this stuff out as if it were fact and you had seen it yourself.

Take a deep breath, let go of your fear and hate. Hate leads to suffering, said a short green guy.

I will break it down for you tonight when I get home from work and have access to my picture site. It's not rocket science, but you can keep on pretending it is if you like.

You speak as if you are privy to the facts. Somebody drew some broad lines on a photo. It doesn't give us anything accurate about the ride. Does anyone have a real plan from Disney?

This is the PERFECT ride for Fantasyland and Magic Kingdom. It is going to be good for kids but fun for adults.

 

[Mad Hattered]

You speak as if you are privy to the facts. Somebody drew some broad lines on a photo. It doesn't give us anything accurate about the ride. Does anyone have a real plan from Disney?
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It's cleared up now.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3240908

You can argue all you want about it. Argue with what is posted in that thread.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

It's cleared up now.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3240908

You can argue all you want about it. Argue with what is posted in that thread.

But where did that come from? Did you draw it? Based on what information?

Isn't part of the ride length determined by how slow the cars go at certain parts of the ride. How do you know exactly what speed they are traveling and how long they will be going slow? It looks like the one lift hill will be internal, can that also be dark ride? Where are the new still hidden animatronics located?

 

[Mad Hattered]

But where did that come from? Did you draw it? Based on what information?

Isn't part of the ride length determined by how slow the cars go at certain parts of the ride. How do you know exactly what speed they are traveling and how long they will be going slow? It looks like the one lift hill will be internal, can that also be dark ride? Where are the new still hidden animatronics located?

Ariel views of the track layout have been out for YEARS....just look them up. To answer your question about "animatronics" (they are more like the Pooh ones) will be here (look closely and you can see a deer and the Dopey mine cart )

 

[tcherjen]

I am so glad it is getting closer.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

But where did that come from? Did you draw it? Based on what information?

Isn't part of the ride length determined by how slow the cars go at certain parts of the ride. How do you know exactly what speed they are traveling and how long they will be going slow? It looks like the one lift hill will be internal, can that also be dark ride? Where are the new still hidden animatronics located?

~This, 1000%! It's obvious there is more to the mine train than what's on the video. Disney did the exact same thing with Tower of Terror. Disney did not reveal that there was a dark ride portion and it came as a complete surprise to me.

~This is Disney at its finest. Can't wait!

 

[MrInfinity]

~This, 1000%! It's obvious there is more to the mine train than what's on the video. Disney did the exact same thing with Tower of Terror. Disney did not reveal that there was a dark ride portion and it came as a complete surprise to me.

~This is Disney at its finest. Can't wait!

Hehe... Out a tunnel, down a drop, around a bank, under a bridge, over a river, and past a waterfall... all within a matter of seconds. Sensory overload? That's an awesome photo.

 

[csmith041177]

Cannot wait until this is finished!