Rumors of Light (ROL discussion thread)

[HopperFan]

"I am laughing" - free button.



Twitter World is ripping them....

 

[Party.Of.4-NY>>>FL]

"I AM TWEETING" - ugh. I let myself be drawn in.

Me too

 

[Party.Of.4-NY>>>FL]

what is Paint the night ?

 

[HopperFan]

Wondering out loud here. Could Paint the Night be coming?

what is Paint the night ?

DISCLAIMER:
TALKING, WONDERING, CONJECTURING OUTLOUD
using info shared by insiders and public info.

Lots of bloggers and folks on here that know people on the inside that were told that PTN was coming.
DL went ballistic, it hasn't been there that long.
Why does the prettier more popular younger sister get everything?!? Except Marvel.
Sudden stepping back and vague press releases.
Chaos at the top.
THEN more info began coming out regarding the PTN costuming issues.
The are very heavy and there are parts they must hold up.
Pain, injuries and ............. drum roll ........ repeated workman's comp.
You know enough reports and others become involved in it.
And we are talking California.
I mean my kid has a minor ER visit and I get a letter from insurance co lawyers asking who caused the injury.....
SO ........... imagine a heavy, injurious (is that a word?) costume in SoCal coming to hot humid FL.
This could be a way bigger problem than the whining in DL.
PTN goes to the rehab factory and the park powers that be have to come up with another plan.
So all that stuff at MK backstage .... gets shipped back out, completely useless to WDW.

NOW
Pretending to be Disney Brains...
Now what, let's think this through.
MSEP is going to DL.
It's their parade.
We were on borrowed time.
It worked well through the recession and beyond.
It needs a rehab.
Just let it go.

But it's MK's 45th!
Yeah.
So what do we do besides cupcakes and buttons?
Can't blow a wad of money when the 50th is coming and it should be HUGE party.
Let's borrow PTN for a few years.
[insert above cluster]
Okay let's work backwards.
We need something big for the 50th.
BIG
Let's design and build something new.
Brand new.
Something they will own and can stay a long time.
Perfect.
Deal.

Ummm, that is 5 years away.
The guests are not happy now.
It's going to get worse after the holidays.
At least we can pacify some with the holiday parades.
But then, they are going to be so mean.
They will never accept a dark Main Street.
Summer hours, no parade, ugly.
For five years, Grumpy guests.
And that is if we are lucky.
Some may be frustrated with another loss and not come.

BUT we are already spending SO much in DHS the next few years.
AK and Mr. Joe and Rumors of Light have killed our bank accounts.
Let's not forget the recovery from being #Shanghaiied.
And our attendance is down, been a long hot summer.
We need something to gap this.
Call everyone you know.
Maybe someone has something we can use.
Maybe the guests will never know we got it second hand.
Cool, I think there is something in a warehouse.
Let's see if we can use it.

BUT it will need work. Dusting, cleaning, lots of pixie dust.
What do we do in the meantime?
We have rioting guests.
We have guests leaving the parks early to go to the darkside.
We have entertainment CMs afraid their pay is getting cut in half, looking for new jobs.
We have a reputation for magic in the night.
Wishes is old and not enough.
I got it, we can entertain folks at night with things we already have for now.
Let's go to the Home Depot and buy some stuff ... it will work ... I know it.
Call MacGyver and get this thing done.

As DD would say "Cool story bro" but hey .......... what if it works out to be true?

 

[Cluelyss]

DISCLAIMER:
TALKING, WONDERING, CONJECTURING OUTLOUD
using info shared by insiders and public info.

Lots of bloggers and folks on here that know people on the inside that were told that PTN was coming.
DL went ballistic, it hasn't been there that long.
Why does the prettier more popular younger sister get everything?!? Except Marvel.
Sudden stepping back and vague press releases.
Chaos at the top.
THEN more info began coming out regarding the PTN costuming issues.
The are very heavy and there are parts they must hold up.
Pain, injuries and ............. drum roll ........ repeated workman's comp.
You know enough reports and others become involved in it.
And we are talking California.
I mean my kid has a minor ER visit and I get a letter from insurance co lawyers asking who caused the injury.....
SO ........... imagine a heavy, injurious (is that a word?) costume in SoCal coming to hot humid FL.
This could be a way bigger problem than the whining in DL.
PTN goes to the rehab factory and the park powers that be have to come up with another plan.
So all that stuff at MK backstage .... gets shipped back out, completely useless to WDW.

NOW
Pretending to be Disney Brains...
Now what, let's think this through.
MSEP is going to DL.
It's their parade.
We were on borrowed time.
It worked well through the recession and beyond.
It needs a rehab.
Just let it go.

But it's MK's 45th!
Yeah.
So what do we do besides cupcakes and buttons?
Can't blow a wad of money when the 50th is coming and it should be HUGE party.
Let's borrow PTN for a few years.
[insert above cluster]
Okay let's work backwards.
We need something big for the 50th.
BIG
Let's design and build something new.
Brand new.
Something they will own and can stay a long time.
Perfect.
Deal.

Ummm, that is 5 years away.
The guests are not happy now.
It's going to get worse after the holidays.
At least we can pacify some with the holiday parades.
But then, they are going to be so mean.
They will never accept a dark Main Street.
Summer hours, no parade, ugly.
For five years, Grumpy guests.
And that is if we are lucky.
Some may be frustrated with another loss and not come.

BUT we are already spending SO much in DHS the next few years.
AK and Mr. Joe and Rumors of Light have killed our bank accounts.
Let's not forget the recovery from being #Shanghaiied.
And our attendance is down, been a long hot summer.
We need something to gap this.
Call everyone you know.
Maybe someone has something we can use.
Maybe the guests will never know we got it second hand.
Cool, I think there is something in a warehouse.
Let's see if we can use it.

BUT it will need work. Dusting, cleaning, lots of pixie dust.
What do we do in the meantime?
We have rioting guests.
We have guests leaving the parks early to go to the darkside.
We have entertainment CMs afraid their pay is getting cut in half, looking for new jobs.
We have a reputation for magic in the night.
Wishes is old and not enough.
I got it, we can entertain folks at night with things we already have for now.
Let's go to the Home Depot and buy some stuff ... it will work ... I know it.
Call MacGyver and get this thing done.

As DD would say "Cool story bro" but hey .......... what if it works out to be true?

Spectromagic wasn't completely destroyed, was it.....?????

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Spectromagic wasn't completely destroyed, was it.....?????

Yeah -- I thought this was rumored to come back a while ago, no??

 

[HopperFan]

Spectromagic wasn't completely destroyed, was it.....?????

Completely destroyed. They wore it to the ground.

BUT as with anything, it can be rebuilt. MSEP is not the original. It was rebuilt.

However, that is not what I am hearing.

As much as it would make me dance and cry in anticipation.

 

[jlundeen]

"I am laughing" - free button.



Twitter World is ripping them....

As well they should.

 

[beesly]

"I am laughing" - free button.



Twitter World is ripping them....

What a letdown!

 

[HopperFan]

What a letdown!

Yup, but I don't blame the SM folks as much as the corporate folks.

The entire time they hyped this up I knew that we would all be disappointed.
WDWToday is an infant in the social world and sadly they have helicopter parents.
Their tweets/replies are so canned and scripted and you just know they want to be more.
Universal KILLS in the social media and it has to be hard to be the kid whose Mom is holding your hand during the game.
I have noticed the last couple of weeks they seem to have a wee more personality but ...
The old saying that even bad news can be good advertising ............ well not in social media.
I feel bad for them, you know Disney corporate PR came up with this and said do it.
BUT the backlash they received will not go unnoticed and may actually help in them in long run.
DisCorp has to stop the micromanagement and let them play in the game.
Obviously they have to stay within the Disney look.
But let them be funny, have fun and create a presence, not just list of followers.

I think the button is a good idea.
I am happy their SM is trying to take the next step.
I don't think the way they did the hype was a good move.
Twitter is a cruel world.
They knew they would get negative response when that is all it was.
When folks are waiting for ROL and more right now....

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I'm no longer in anticipation mode when it comes to any rumors or anything they tease. I only wait for the official announcements -- especially when it comes to actually planning for an upcoming trip. Especially after RoL -- not worth it to me.

DIS is one place I check because if I miss an official announcement on twitter or FB, SOMEONE here is bound to have caught it!

 

[Cluelyss]

So do we actually think there will be a REAL announcement tomorrow? Dare I even dream??

And here I still sit trying to think of other old "lights" that could be revived. Certainly MK wouldn't be conducive for the Lights of Winter.....???

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Osborne Family Lights has been rumored for quite a while now as well:

http://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/ar...urn-but-in-a-new-location-and-with-a-new-name

 

[Cluelyss]

Osborne Family Lights has been rumored for quite a while now as well:

http://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/ar...urn-but-in-a-new-location-and-with-a-new-name

I would so love for that to be true....but I thought all the lights had been returned to the family?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I would so love for that to be true....but I thought all the lights had been returned to the family?

I thought so, too. I suppose if you're Disney anything done can be undone for the right price??

Or this is TOTALLY UNFOUNDED!!

 

[Boomerdog]

Speaking of those lights, I found a hidden Minnie in a tree last year just off of the street. Was super excited but no one seemed to be aware of it when I asked the cast members in the area.

And, I am sure something similar to this picture has been posted, but I do not feel inclined to sift through 730 pages to find it.

 

[HopperFan]

So do we actually think there will be a REAL announcement tomorrow? Dare I even dream??

And here I still sit trying to think of other old "lights" that could be revived. Certainly MK wouldn't be conducive for the Lights of Winter.....???

This is a tough one.

Osborne Family Lights has been rumored for quite a while now as well:

http://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/ar...urn-but-in-a-new-location-and-with-a-new-name

I would so love for that to be true....but I thought all the lights had been returned to the family?

I thought so, too. I suppose if you're Disney anything done can be undone for the right price??

Or this is TOTALLY UNFOUNDED!!

"Osborne Lights" are done. As in all the old structures the Osborne Family owned were returned to them. Contract is done. I will assume any of the structures that were now being used that resembled the old Osborne's were destroyed to avoid any legal issues with them. If you are familiar with Osborne's original stuff and saw it when it started at Disney (I did) there is NO comparison in what they received and what we all visualize. It had long long ago stopped looking like the Osborne's stuff which wasn't much different than some yards now. Even after the first year it arrived Disney took it to new levels. There were some similar items built and they maintained the spirit but what we were seeing for most of it's time at WDW were Disney added lights.

This is a year after it arrived and Disney had already added to it .....
http://fiestafuncenter.blogspot.com/2012/12/osborne-family-spectacle-of-lights-on.html

So YES Disney can certainly bring back a light show as good as since it was mostly their work anyway ... location is key. I would so love and totally pay for a private Muppet Courtyard showing. I think they would receive some backlash though if a pay only as rumored. Streets of America were SO SO perfect for all of it but if we aren't sentimental about it being on "buildings" I think they could really pull off something as big and good as the past in Epcot, Futureland truly has lots of wide walk ways that could handle it. They would just need to build the infrastructure to hold it up. They have in the past, this just needs to be bigger.

First picture is Osborne's soldiers ..... Second is Disney soldiers we know built to resemble Osborne.

 

[HopperFan]

Speaking of those lights, I found a hidden Minnie in a tree last year just off of the street. Was super excited but no one seemed to be aware of it when I asked the cast members in the area.

And, I am sure something similar to this picture has been posted, but I do not feel inclined to sift through 730 pages to find it.

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Look at you smiling!

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

This is a tough one.

"Osborne Lights" are done. As in all the old structures the Osborne Family owned were returned to them. Contract is done. I will assume any of the structures that were now being used that resembled the old Osborne's were destroyed to avoid any legal issues with them. If you are familiar with Osborne's original stuff and saw it when it started at Disney (I did) there is NO comparison in what they received and what we all visualize. It had long long ago stopped looking like the Osborne's stuff which wasn't much different than some yards now. Even after the first year it arrived Disney took it to new levels. There were some similar items built and they maintained the spirit but what we were seeing for most of it's time at WDW were Disney added lights.

This is a year after it arrived and Disney had already added to it .....
http://fiestafuncenter.blogspot.com/2012/12/osborne-family-spectacle-of-lights-on.html

So YES Disney can certainly bring back a light show as good as since it was mostly their work anyway ... location is key. I would so love and totally pay for a private Muppet Courtyard showing. I think they would receive some backlash though if a pay only as rumored. Streets of America were SO SO perfect for all of it but if we aren't sentimental about it being on "buildings" I think they could really pull off something as big and good as the past in Epcot, Futureland truly has lots of wide walk ways that could handle it. They would just need to build the infrastructure to hold it up. They have in the past, this just needs to be bigger.

First picture is Osborne's soldiers ..... Second is Disney soldiers we know built to resemble Osborne.

The name Osborne is not important to me, personally. But a "similar" light show somewhere seems eminently doable, and who doesn't like bright lights around the holidays?! Seems like a no-brainer.

 

[HopperFan]

The name Osborne is not important to me, personally. But a "similar" light show somewhere seems eminently doable, and who doesn't like bright lights around the holidays?! Seems like a no-brainer.

Totally agree.

I guess my post was more about what most think of as "Osborne" lights were indeed Disney lights with the spirit of the Osbornes.

Not renewing the contract and returning whatever stuff they were holding and probably taking a year off and determining a new location .......... puts any groundwork needed for them to design and create a light show with their own name. I would be shocked if they don't, especially seeing the response and crowds last year. I personally went to Disney over the holidays for the lights. Without them, I have no plans to go this year.