Rumor by agent - Blue Card min. going up

[sethschroeder]

With the Star Wars hotel, I can totally picture Star Wars weddings and similar heavily branded expansion. IMO, the Star Wars hotel idea is the freshest and most exciting Disney idea in a long time. And I can totally see a timeshare tie in for that, if Disney thinks it will make money.

I know there used to be some big plans with the Marvel properties. Maybe not right this minute, but I can see expansion in the future, not Vero kind of expansion, but a park somewhere more favorable in the future. Nevada? Utah?

California has been so restrictive, I'm surprised they keep putting so much work into that state, when it's clear they are so constrained by space and rules.

The MFs would be like $30/point for a resort like that haha.

People were bringing it up but the Star Wars spaceship is really a couple day experience its not a hotel.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

It would be kind of cool to enter the park next to Pandora.

You kind of do enter the park next to Pandora already.

 

[LTJoeFlo]

I understand that. Thank you. I guess I didn’t take into account people were only buying in to get the bennies! I actually thought most bought in for the ability to stay in a “deluxe “ resort at a cheaper rate.

I think this is why there are so many differing opinions on the minimum point increase. We purchased because we intended on going every year. I didn't know of any benefits at the time and I don't think moonlight magic was a thing yet. Either way, I knew enough to know that Disney would change their benefits on a regular basis. The value for us was saving on future resort stays. The value for others is the benefits.

 

[sethschroeder]

I think this is why there are so many differing opinions on the minimum point increase. We purchased because we intended on going every year. I didn't know of any benefits at the time and I don't think moonlight magic was a thing yet. Either way, I knew enough to know that Disney would change their benefits on a regular basis. The value for us was saving on future resort stays. The value for others is the benefits.

Eh resale will always be grandfathered to future changes. It's a legal protection of people sueing over changes they didn't know would exist.

Dont see that changing really in the future.

Would not buy direct because of future possible restrictions.

 

[LTJoeFlo]

Eh resale will always be grandfathered to future changes. It's a legal protection of people sueing over changes they didn't know would exist.

Dont see that changing really in the future.

Would not buy direct because of future possible restrictions.

I wasn't addressing restrictions. I was addressing the fact that people want to purchase direct for the benefits (season pass discounts, moonlight magic, etc.).

 

[sethschroeder]

I wasn't addressing restrictions. I was addressing the fact that people want to purchase direct for the benefits (season pass discounts, moonlight magic, etc.).

Ah you mean remove things like AP benefits got you. Misread that was thinking you were saying they would take more away from resale contracts that get purchased now.

 

[Spark65]

This one is easy if you don't want to buy 125 points for blue card bennies buy 100 before Oct 1!

 

[Drewferin]

Still a funny discussion considering you cannot buy any discounted APs by owning DVC right now. After talking with several guest experience members and disney ticket cast members at Disney Springs they have no idea when or if APs will come back. This is by far the biggest financial savings that a blue card can get you. At this point there is no real difference between white and blue cards if you take Riveria booking out of the dicussion.

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

Still a funny discussion considering you cannot buy any discounted APs by owning DVC right now. After talking with several guest experience members and disney ticket cast members at Disney Springs they have no idea when or if APs will come back. This is by far the biggest financial savings that a blue card can get you. At this point there is no real difference between white and blue cards if you take Riveria booking out of the dicussion.

Well yes, but most people are not buying a contract for the short term. Will they do away with annual passes forever? Seems unlikely. So if you're not a Florida resident, have a large family and plan to go to the parks quite often, the AP discount can be significant.

 

[CraigInPA]

You kind of do enter the park next to Pandora already.

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Once you walk in a big (4/10ths of a mile) U turn, fighting crowds the whole way. Ironically, when you look at the overhead maps on google, it's only half a mile as the crow flys from AKL to Pandora through the Savanna, a forested area, and across a waterway...

 

[sethschroeder]

Once you walk in a big (4/10ths of a mile) U turn, fighting crowds the whole way. Ironically, when you look at the overhead maps on google, it's only half a mile as the crow flys from AKL to Pandora through the Savanna, a forested area, and across a waterway...

Pandora themed skyliner incoming hahaha

Might have me rethinking staying at AKV again in the future.

 

[pkrieger2287]

https://dvcfan.com/2020/08/17/rumor...tmOtHNBkgz1BTuc0mJrvKEhACisZgRlV6FDKb-HphvClE

 

[Brianstl]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

 

[CastAStone]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

I don’t think a short or even medium term increase in sales is the goal. This is IMO a long term strategy.

 

[sethschroeder]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

I can't imagine it would drive that large of a buy-in since it was just 2 years ago that it moved from 25 to 75 points. That addressable group is very small and this last chance method likely works fairly well for Disney since this is now the 3rd year in a row doing this.

 

[kmorlock]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

The only flaw in that plan is that it makes far too much sense for Disney to implement. This one option would boost their sales imo.

 

[Sandisw]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

But would it? Someone on the fence might decide to go resale since the level is so low to get the benefits.

I think Disney does stuff for the long game and not the short.

 

[Dean]

If Disney really wanted to spike direct DVC sales, they would temporarily drop the blue card buy in to 50 points for a month and reap the benefit of the blue card envy that exist among certain resale buyers.

I think their goal isn't as much to spike sales but rather to sell the most points for the most profit long term, as it should be. To me it seems they've learned that the higher minimum required for perks, the more they'll actually make. They've also learned that such a rumored increase will spike sales so they get both. The guides have been uncharacteristically chatty and open with these rumors which strongly suggests to me that not only is DVD OK with the leak, they've planned for it. So they really get both more points sold per contract going forward and a spike in sales as people scramble anticipating an increase coming up with likely more total points sold over time. I suspect the number of buyers who jump will be smaller than each previous increase, partly because some of them have already bought in to qualify but there will be a few that will not buy now that might have at 50 or 75 but in reality that's likely a relatively small percentage. There is a tipping point to this direction but I'm suspecting it's higher than 125, maybe 150, which is where I suspect they're going but possibly even higher. The other direction they could go is a VIP program which would almost certainly be based on number of qualified points though since they haven't gone there so far and have had ample opportunity and other examples in the timeshare world, I'm not expecting they will.

 

[Cyberc1978]

I think their goal isn't as much to spike sales but rather to sell the most points for the most profit long term, as it should be. To me it seems they've learned that the higher minimum required for perks, the more they'll actually make. They've also learned that such a rumored increase will spike sales so they get both. The guides have been uncharacteristically chatty and open with these rumors which strongly suggests to me that not only is DVD OK with the leak, they've planned for it. So they really get both more points sold per contract going forward and a spike in sales as people scramble anticipating an increase coming up with likely more total points sold over time. I suspect the number of buyers who jump will be smaller than each previous increase, partly because some of them have already bought in to qualify but there will be a few that will not buy now that might have at 50 or 75 but in reality that's likely a relatively small percentage. There is a tipping point to this direction but I'm suspecting it's higher than 125, maybe 150, which is where I suspect they're going but possibly even higher. The other direction they could go is a VIP program which would almost certainly be based on number of qualified points though since they haven't gone there so far and have had ample opportunity and other examples in the timeshare world, I'm not expecting they will.

To accommodate those that only owns 50-75 points direct and therefore wont qualify for the perks(assuming they bought in with the current 100 point) they could go with a model that demanded xx $$$ per point + a flat fee. You would have to pay for all the points you own. So if you haven't walked down the forbidden path and only have direct points its fairly "cheap" but if you have taken the walk it will be more expensive.

 

[zavandor]

I think they should create a VIP club with amazing perks for owners of minimum 215 points (direct or grandfathered). The fact I own 215 points is really just a coincidence.