Resale DVC "member" perks

[nickthenuke]

Hi everyone! I'm brand new to the DISBoards. I've been listening to the DIS DVC Show podcast, and have listened to almost all the shows that are available. I have a couple questions regarding purchasing a resale DVC contract.
1. When staying on a DVC reservation as a resale "member", do you get free parking at the resort?
2. Do you also get free parking during the stay at the parks?
3. As a resale "member", do you get Magicbands mailed to you before each stay, or do you reuse MB from trip to trip?
4. As a resale "member", are you able to purchase DVC-specific MB, and do they produce the unique effects (lights/sounds) when scanning them in the parks?
5. Are there any hidden or surprise costs associated with a DVC stay, besides if you charge room service or purchases back to your room? For example, is there a sales or room tax that gets added on after your stay, or do points cover that?
6. As a resale "member", I know you do not get a DVC member card, but is there any way for a resale "member" to identify themselves as a DVC owner? Can resale owners access DVC-member lounges or events?
7. Finally, when a DVC deed/contract ends, will resale owners be offered an extension if one is offered to direct-purchase owners?
Thank you everyone for answering these or pointing me to the appropriate threads.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

1. Yes. Parking is included in dues and cannot be restricted - it's part of the real estate interest.

2. Anyone at a Disney resort hotel does. This is completely separate from DVC.

3, Anyone at a Disney resort hotel does. This is completely separate from DVC.

4. Generally, yes. Anyone can buy most DVC merch without even having a member card. It won't light tapstiles purple, but that can be true for DVC blue card members too. Very inconsistent. Also, probably not worth thousands of dollars to most people.

5. Aulani has a state room tax charged to everyone, points, hotel, member, resale, non-member on points, everyone. Otherwise, no.

6. You get a white digital card. You are ineligible for events and the Epcot Lounge. Your white card gets you into Top of the World.

7. It's a mystery if ANYONE gets offered an extension at all, so details past "dunno" are equally "dunno."

 

[nickthenuke]

7. It's a mystery if ANYONE gets offered an extension at all, so details past "dunno" are equally "dunno."
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I may be mistaken, but I thought one of the podcasts said something about OKW members being offered an extension from 2042 to 2057, or similar, for around $25/point several years ago. I wasn't sure if at that time those who were resale owners were offered the same thing. Again, I don't remember which podcast that was or if I have the details right on that. But, at 35, I would much rather purchase a contract that will take me into my 70s vs my 60s if, as a resale owner, there's no chance I can extend.
Thank you for the other answers; they are very helpful!

 

[bwvBound]

I may be mistaken, but I thought one of the podcasts said something about OKW members being offered an extension from 2042 to 2057, or similar, for around $25/point several years ago. I wasn't sure if at that time those who were resale owners were offered the same thing.

At the time that was offered there were no resale restrictions. All members were one, big, happy family.

 

[rg35]

I may be mistaken, but I thought one of the podcasts said something about OKW members being offered an extension from 2042 to 2057, or similar, for around $25/point several years ago. I wasn't sure if at that time those who were resale owners were offered the same thing. Again, I don't remember which podcast that was or if I have the details right on that. But, at 35, I would much rather purchase a contract that will take me into my 70s vs my 60s if, as a resale owner, there's no chance I can extend.
Thank you for the other answers; they are very helpful!

I don't think you can look that far down the road. DVC overall might be a very different product by then. You might not even still be an owner then.

 

[chalee94]

<<7. It's a mystery if ANYONE gets offered an extension at all, so details past "dunno" are equally "dunno.">>

I may be mistaken, but I thought one of the podcasts said something about OKW members being offered an extension from 2042 to 2057, or similar, for around $25/point several years ago. I wasn't sure if at that time those who were resale owners were offered the same thing. Again, I don't remember which podcast that was or if I have the details right on that. But, at 35, I would much rather purchase a contract that will take me into my 70s vs my 60s if, as a resale owner, there's no chance I can extend.
Thank you for the other answers; they are very helpful!

As stated, there were no resale restrictions at all back in those days. What you purchased from Disney, you could sell completely intact to someone else. That was back when Disney set the standard.

You can easily search for old threads about the OKW extension. Not sure if train wreck, debacle or disaster is the best description. It was a terrible deal for points that couldn't be used for 35 years. If another extension is offered - and I would bet against it - you can be sure the pricing will not be reasonable. That is not a reasonable concern when considering resale vs direct.

 

[skippytx]

I'm a bit of a MagicBand nerd, so I just want to comment on item #4 of yours and clarify how the magic bands behave. It might save someone 35 bucks or more in the future

To preface though, the Purple "Welcome Home" light at the park entrance tapstiles will (inconsistently) work with any MagicBand. You do not need to have a special DVC one for that functionality. My wife uses a standard MB and she gets the purple light, I almost never get it.

There are some Limited Edition (x out of x000) (not limited release) MagicBands that make special effects at the park entrance tapstile, or at other MB touchpoints. The majority of these only work at the park entrances. There are a few though that work inside a specific park. Most notably the Magic Kingdom 45th anniversary MB do this. I have a TikiRoom one and everywhere in MK it plays a 5 or 6 second snippet of the TikiRoom song when I tap it. There are several other 45th anniversary MB's as well. There are a few Pandora specific ones where the special effects only work at AK, and I think a few for Epcot and HS as well.

The majority of Limited Edition MB's only do the special effects at the park entrance. There are a few that work throughout certain parks, but the majority don't do anything special once you're past the front entrance. The ones that do also only work in their respective parks. My TikiRoom MB does nothing special outside of MK. If I use it at AK or HS its all normal behavior.

My kids have the Limited Edition Cars 3 and Captain Marvel MB's. They only do special effects at the park entrances.

The special effects aren't always working though. Supposedly if you have too many MB's on your account, it can cause the effect to not work, and well with Disney IT being what it is, sometimes it just doesn't work anyway.

http://www.magicbandcollectors.com/ has tons of information about the various magic bands out there and what special effects they may have and where.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The OKW extension debacle is ancient history. The product has changed a lot since, but some of the underlying issues that made it a debacle are static and cannot change.

I would not expect anything that looked like that did ever again.

 

[jerseyduke]

7. It's a mystery if ANYONE gets offered an extension at all, so details past "dunno" are equally "dunno."

I may be mistaken, but I thought one of the podcasts said something about OKW members being offered an extension from 2042 to 2057, or similar, for around $25/point several years ago. I wasn't sure if at that time those who were resale owners were offered the same thing. Again, I don't remember which podcast that was or if I have the details right on that. But, at 35, I would much rather purchase a contract that will take me into my 70s vs my 60s if, as a resale owner, there's no chance I can extend.
Thank you for the other answers; they are very helpful!
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You are not mistaken. But you do not understand the debacle this was/is. I believe Disney expected almost everyone to jump on this offer, and that did not happen.

Old Key West is composed of different buildings numbered from 11 to 56 (I think). These building do not have to be what is called a residential unit, but for the sake of simplicity let's say that they are. A DVC contract is a fractional ownership of a residential unit. Basically you might buy .053 percent of RU(building) 50.
You then extend your contract to 2057. Taking the example to the extreme for the sake of illustration, lets say you were the only person who owns a part of building 50 that chooses to extend. Disney now HAS to keep that building until 2057 for 1 person! Granted, they can rent out all the other availability, so its not a huge deal, but it now strips of some options as they can not raze the land and build something else.

The bottom line is that the points that do not expire until 2057 are probably enough to occupy half of OKW or less. If Disney could condense them all into Residential Units of their choosing, they would be able to free up half of OKW to do with as they pleased. But now they can't. (and that's a good chunk of land)

2042 is a long way off. Disney may do something (I tend to think they will, but that is PURE speculation), but I would think it would be more along the option of buying a new 10 year contract at BWV for a cheaper price. This way Disney can change the contracts to what they want, reallocate the RUs if needed, etc, etc. But they may just rent the rooms out.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The bottom line is that the points that do not expire until 2057 are probably enough to occupy half of OKW or less. If Disney could condense them all into Residential Units of their choosing, they would be able to free up half of OKW to do with as they pleased. But now they can't. (and that's a good chunk of land)

There is also the issue that by extending the land lease, they de facto extended every existing OKW contract at the time whether or not someone opted in. And the extension was actually an opt-out extension, requiring hoop jumping of ridiculousness, and most owners didn't do anything.

It's why anyone selling a 2042 has to sign a quit claim. And why every contract Disney takes back is converted to 2057.

 

[lmhall2000]

1. Yes. Parking is included in dues and cannot be restricted - it's part of the real estate interest.

we were told unless you have blue card- parking was not free...can anyone confirm? This was the rep at Aulani.

 

[zavandor]

we were told unless you have blue card- parking was not free...can anyone confirm? This was the rep at Aulani.

If you book cash with Disney, you pay the parking at the hotels. If you book using points, yours or renting, then parking is included (not free, included in the cost of the MF paid every year).
If staying onsite, whatever the method, parking at the parks is free.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

If you book cash with Disney, you pay the parking at the hotels. If you book using points, yours or renting, then parking is included (not free, included in the cost of the MF paid every year).
If staying onsite, whatever the method, parking at the parks is free.

Thus, why I used the term "included." Parking is not free. You pay for it in dues on points.

 

[Deb & Bill]

...Old Key West is composed of different buildings numbered from 11 to 56 (I think). These building do not have to be what is called a residential unit, but for the sake of simplicity let's say that they are. A DVC contract is a fractional ownership of a residential unit. Basically you might buy .053 percent of RU(building) 50.
You then extend your contract to 2057. Taking the example to the extreme for the sake of illustration, lets say you were the only person who owns a part of building 50 that chooses to extend. Disney now HAS to keep that building until 2057 for 1 person! Granted, they can rent out all the other availability, so its not a huge deal, but it now strips of some options as they can not raze the land and build something else.

The bottom line is that the points that do not expire until 2057 are probably enough to occupy half of OKW or less. If Disney could condense them all into Residential Units of their choosing, they would be able to free up half of OKW to do with as they pleased. But now they can't. (and that's a good chunk of land)

2042 is a long way off. Disney may do something (I tend to think they will, but that is PURE speculation), but I would think it would be more along the option of buying a new 10 year contract at BWV for a cheaper price. This way Disney can change the contracts to what they want, reallocate the RUs if needed, etc, etc. But they may just rent the rooms out.

Buildings up to 64 (the last three were added around 2000 and numbered 62, 63 and 64). Plus, the owners with the extension will pay for maintenance past Jan 30, 2042 including Disney. Who knows how much they will want to ante up to renovate without making it totally new.

 

[nickthenuke]

Thanks everyone for the great info!

 

[lmhall2000]

If you book cash with Disney, you pay the parking at the hotels. If you book using points, yours or renting, then parking is included (not free, included in the cost of the MF paid every year).
If staying onsite, whatever the method, parking at the parks is free.

The DVC rep at Aulani said that was one of the changes- that UNLESS you have a blue DVC member card (now only available if you buy direct at least 100 points) that you must pay for parking. Another DVC agent confirmed this. So, the confusion will only be cleared up when those without a blue card face the charge.

 

[zavandor]

The DVC rep at Aulani said that was one of the changes- that UNLESS you have a blue DVC member card (now only available if you buy direct at least 100 points) that you must pay for parking. Another DVC agent confirmed this. So, the confusion will only be cleared up when those without a blue card face the charge.

The DVC rep(s) is either dishonest or ignorant of the rules and the laws.