Refillable mugs at moderate resorts?

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Mugs have been sold for length of stay since at least 1997 when I bought my first mugs. Signs were posted at the mug station where you purchased the mug. Now, because so many people don't get that, they have started posting the length of stay info right on the mug. Now, if Disney didn't care, why would they post this info on the mug? When another DIS member wrote a letter to Disney about the mugs, they stated that their current policy was that ALL mugs are only good for the length of stay. That included old mugs. I have been purchasing mugs since 1997 and never saw any that were good forever.

Some of us on the DIS (and I think CleveRocks might also fit in here) choose to let newer members know about Disney rules. And try to refute the ones that others tell their exceptions to. Exceptions to these rules. They are exceptions and they sometime happen.

Theft is theft, whether you steal soda from Disney or whether you rob a bank. What is so difficult to understand?????

My family & I purchased Wilderness Lodge mugs in 1998 & our Contemporary mugs in 2000. There were no signs at Roaring Forks, or Food & Fun Center, saying what you described. Instead both times were told by Cast Members the mugs were good for life & future visits & we saw signs saying that they were.

I still can't believe some people claim using an old mug is theft, when it's not. I just laugh when I read comments like that. Anyway you can believe what you want, but I am going to believe what I was told by Cast Members, claimimg we could bring these mugs back for future visits. Besides if WDW was to conserned with people stealing soda, they would have different was of preventing it. To print it on a mug saying good for length of stay is a joke. Finally a lot more stealing goes on at the World Of Disney & other stores in WDW. So I think that is more important people filling up less then 5 cents worth of soda.

 

[Deb & Bill]

...I still can't believe some people claim using an old mug is theft, when it's not. I... Besides if WDW was to conserned with people stealing soda, they would have different was of preventing it. To print it on a mug saying good for length of stay is a joke. Finally a lot more stealing goes on at the World Of Disney & other stores in WDW. So I think that is more important people filling up less then 5 cents worth of soda.

And, therein lies the problem. You and others don't agree with what is theft and what is not theft. To some of us, taking something without paying that Disney has said must be purchased is theft. Their letter to the other DIS member acknowledged that. You and other fail to see the costs involved with these petty thefts. Mug prices have been raised several times since I bought my first mugs. They now write on the mug that it is good for the lenght of stay only. Do you really think the $8.99 back in 1998 entitles you to free soda for the rest of your life? Do you plan to give your Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge mugs to your children in your Last Will and Testament so they can continue to get free soda for the rest of their lives?

Theft is still theft. Whether it is a $60 sweatshirt, a $2.50 cup of soda, a $10 parking space or a $350,000 yacht.

 

[jahow7]

And, therein lies the problem. You and others don't agree with what is theft and what is not theft. To some of us, taking something without paying that Disney has said must be purchased is theft. Their letter to the other DIS member acknowledged that. You and other fail to see the costs involved with these petty thefts. Mug prices have been raised several times since I bought my first mugs. They now write on the mug that it is good for the lenght of stay only. Do you really think the $8.99 back in 1998 entitles you to free soda for the rest of your life? Do you plan to give your Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge mugs to your children in your Last Will and Testament so they can continue to get free soda for the rest of their lives?

Theft is still theft. Whether it is a $60 sweatshirt, a $2.50 cup of soda, a $10 parking space or a $350,000 yacht.

Yes, there is a difference between soda with a few cents and a $ 350,000 yacht. If murder is murder, then why does the law make a distinction between first, second and third degree. In any case no one here is ever going to agree on the whole refillable mug question, so why not just take a valium, relax, and get on with life. If you think it is stealing then go ahead and believe so, just don't accuse anyone else of theft.
By the way the next time you park in a no parking zone and don't get a ticket remember to be a good citizen and pay the fine anyways; you don't want to be accused of depriving your local municipality of revenue, agreed?

 

[CleveRocks]

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

THANKS!

[I almost did it, a whole post without sarcasm or my stupid opinion! WOW! ]

 

[jahow7]

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

THANKS!

[I almost did it, a whole post without sarcasm or my stupid opinion! WOW! ]

I think you spend too much time on rock 'n' roller coaster, as it has clearly affected things in cleverocks land.
I never said it was ok to steal anything, just stop telling people they are stealing something when in fact they aren't, in spite of your interpretation of the " rules ". To equate the refillable mug issue with stealing $ 350,000 of merchandise is just ridiculous.

 

[dd316]

To anyone arguing the point, do you save cups from, say, McDonald's and bring them back and reuse them every time you go back? If you dine in, it's still free refills, right?

As much as I'd like to re-use my mugs from 1997, I'm not going to when I go back in a couple weeks. I'd feel awkward using them, like I'm getting away with something. I'm there to have a good time, not to have my conscience pestering me over $12.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I have said this before & I will say it again. Cast Members at the Food & Fun Center have seen me use my old silver mug, have they said anything to me about it? NO, they have not. If you go by what Deb & Bill & CleveRocks thinks, shouldn't these Cast Members have said something? I know your going to tell me they would not to upset me since I am a guest. Well then you have no arguemnt, because you all claim that Cast Members have said the rules is mugs are good for length of stay, but if the Cast Members don't inforce the rule, what's the point of their being a rule?

To dd316 saying you would feel awkward taking back an old mug, if that's how you feel fine because you stated it. Just remember Disney will not kick you our or yell at you for using an old mug. Because like I stated before, they have had chance after chance to tell me my mug is no longer good, well then if they follow this rule why did they not say anything?

 

[annie1995]

 

[F4disneyfan]

If there's an earlier rule that supercedes the current rule, then that speaks for itself. I'm just saying that each member of society should not feel themselves to be "holier" than the rules.

Whether someone is "illegally" re-using a mug clearly sold as a length-of-stay mug or is using an old one that is grandfathered into "legal" use really is none of my concern, since I'm not going up to people and saying anything.

I'm not about sitting and observing and judging individuals -- I'm talking about IDEAS here. I'm talking about the IDEA of following a rule. As I said in earlier posts, in the real world I'd keep my stupid opinion to myself, I'd NEVER say word one to anyone I thought was inappropriately re-using an old mug, it's not my place to say anything to them. They might be doing something wrong, in my opinion, but it's also my opinion that if I said anything to them then that would make me one rude S.O.B.!

When did it become a bad thing to follow rules, rather than trying to seek out all the angles to get away with things? And why do you think (as evidenced by your church comment) organized religion has a monopoly on moral behavior?

I get such a kick out of people who excuse their bad behavior by saying there is worse behavior out there. Yes, I know that, but we're not on a terrorism board or an insurance fraud board or an assault board, we're on a Disney board. I hope you don't, either. I work with accident victims. I see the horrible results every day. I treasure my life and your life too much to mess around while driving a 3000 pound weapon.

Nope I actually try to follow the rules of the road for the most part my kids mean to much to me to be an idiot behind the wheel of my car wether it is just myself in it or the whole family. As for teh church comment I find it generally the bible thumpers that have these types of issues over a re useable mug and other such things. See religion doesn't even enter our house and our kids will never step foot into a church other than to go to a wedding it is all a crock It was EVOLUTION FOLKS not anything else.

 

[Deb & Bill]

...By the way the next time you park in a no parking zone and don't get a ticket remember to be a good citizen and pay the fine anyways; you don't want to be accused of depriving your local municipality of revenue, agreed?

Why would you even think I would park in a no parking zone? I don't and I don't plan on doing it. Do you?

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

So, jahow7? Where do you draw the line?????? It is okay to steal the t-shirt at $15, but not the sweatshirt at $60? Where is the line????

Same question, CR Resort Fan 4 Life.

 

[Debi]

Hi everyone,

Disney's official policy is that the mug is valid for the length of your stay only. Whether you choose to obey this policy or not is your choice, but this is Disney's official policy. If caught, Disney could ask you to pay for your drink or ask you to purchase another mug.

Because this thread is no loger informational (it has turned in to arguing and debating), I am closing it.