Refillable mugs at moderate resorts?

[CleveRocks]

And I was trying to say to the OP that it may be the stated policy that you can't re-use the mugs,but it happens all the time and you holier-than-thou types who can afford to buy a 12 dollar mug each and every time you stay at Disney should cut people who have to carefully budget some slack.

I didn't know that refraining from stealing would make me "holier than thou." I think you think you're "holier than thou," as you consider yourself worthy of deciding which laws should be followed and which you feel justified in breaking.

Mick, I'd love it if you could address the example I gave in my earlier post:

Today, I saw that my nearest supermarket had racks and racks of potted mums outside, but there was no employee and no cash register stationed outside. By your standards, as long as Pathmark puts the merchandise outside of the area where you pay for things, they are acknowledging that people don't pay for the merchandise and it is okay with them.

Is it OK to take the mums, since the store placed them, as you put it, "outside the area where you pay for things"?

 

[jworthy]

Just curious...I have a quick question...when does Disney change the design on the mugs. I will be going in January and I am looking forward to getting a different design from the plain one from POR that I purchased last year. Don't get me wrong, I love using the mug each morning for a drink, but I would like the design to be a bit more stylish/colorful. Thank you in advance!

 

[F4disneyfan]

We always re use our All Star mugs and our Dixie and CSR mugs the policy was not in place when we purchased them and we were expressly told they were good forever and can be brought back for subsequent visits so we do.

 

[MouseyMin]

Okay, I'm going to hold my nose and jump in here (and I hope I don't regret it!) I also belong to another bulletin board. A couple of people on that one (not me) wrote to Disney and asked them what their current policy is on mugs that were purchased before the "length of stay" rule was put in place. I know a lot of people are not going to like the answer, but here it is: Disney said that if they were purchased when the "good forever" rules applied, then the mug is still able to be used at that resort only. If the mug says on it "good for length of stay only" (or whatever the exact words are), then it means just that. No flames, please - I'm new here!

 

[Corwin12]

I gotta get on this one, as I have read lots of threads on this. I do not buy the mugs nor have any intention of doing so. What is it you can fill them with? I know there are hot ones that you can use for coffee, teac, and cocoa, but what can you fill with the cold ones with? Juice?? Because if it is only soda or something similar, I hardly think it is a bargain. $12.00 to fill cup with sugar and water as many times as you want during your stay ... Cup: 12 dollars, cost to supply unlimited soda: 3 cents, convincing people they are getting a great deal: priceless.
No flames, please, just trying to be funny, because I also believe: you are on vacation, have fun and worry about the money when you get home

 

[PopArtGal]

Wow!

All I wanted to do is ask a simple question.

I had no idea it would turn out to be such a debate!

I almost regret asking the question haahahaha

 

[kevin75]

actually i am just curious if they have any bigger size than 12 oz.? we are looking at staying at POFQ and i read that theirs was only 12 oz. that is really small to me.

 

[snowgooseltd]

We purchased our mugs on our first family vacation in December of 1995 at Dixie Landings. At the time there were five adults and three children. We now number six adults and five children. We stay at DXL, now known as POR, exclusively once or twice a year and use our original mugs each time. We were told, when we first bought them, that they were good for return visits, and our mugs often bring comments from CMs and guests alike. I have no problem using them as often as I do. I figure that the thousands of dollars I spend, at WDW, yearly, more than makes up for a few pennies worth of beverage. Ours are used primarily for coffee and diet Coke.

 

[Vickie46]

I would feel like I was stealing.. I couldn't do that.. heck.. my husband don't even like to get something to drink if we just buy one.. he goes and gets something else...

 

[Vickie46]

I just re read and some of you have been told that you could re use.. that is great! I had no idea!

 

[misses k 45]

Hello to everyone,

I've never posted how I've felt on some of the questions or answers/advise that people have posted, so hear I go. As I'm reading thru this thread I am trying not to laugh at what one simple question asked has turned into a debate with some people. People, play nice. Someone could of just suggested that you call disney, but no.... sorry.

No offense to anyone but there is a toll free number for disney that I'm sure they can answer all of your questions or most of them. That is their job.

I admit that one more mug does add to the clutter at home and do they really get used after the vacation. I'm always using mine for coffee if not for water.

The mugs are a pretty good deal and just think... when you're done with your vacation and you do re-use your mugs don't they remind you of all the fun you had at disney and make you want to start planning another trip?

I just can't believe how people over react. So I hope not to many people have gotten all bent out of shape over my comment.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I am sure you all won't believe me but, a few Cast Members told me at the Contemporary they don't care if you bring back old mugs. I then mentioned about them saying good for lenght of stay on them. They told me not to worry about it because the cost of the syrup for the soda is less then 5 cents, so it's not a major problem if people re-use mugs the way some members here make it out to be. I am guessing some of you may tell me, those CM's told you that answer because they would not want to upset you or anything. Well if that were true, why would they just not come out & say that old mugs can not be brought back? After all that is what everyone else here has said, so why did they just not say the same thing? Also If the CM's don't care, why should anyone else? One CM who reads Disboards, say some members who post here go over board when talking about mug rules. Disclaimer, those were their words & not mine. Anyway if you choose to believe what I said that's fine, if you choose not to agree with me, then that is your right. I am just saying what I was told.

 

[CleveRocks]

I am sure you all won't believe me but, a few Cast Members told me at the Contemporary they don't care if you bring back old mugs. I then mentioned about them saying good for lenght of stay on them. They told me not to worry about it because the cost of the syrup for the soda is less then 5 cents, so it's not a major problem if people re-use mugs the way some members here make it out to be. I am guessing some of you may tell me, those CM's told you that answer because they would not want to upset you or anything. Well if that were true, why would they just not come out & say that old mugs can not be brought back? After all that is what everyone else here has said, so why did they just not say the same thing? Also If the CM's don't care, why should anyone else? One CM who reads Disboards, say some members who post here go over board when talking about mug rules. Disclaimer, those were their words & not mine. Anyway if you choose to believe what I said that's fine, if you choose not to agree with me, then that is your right. I am just saying what I was told.

I believe every word you wrote. I'm sure there are CMs who say and believe that. DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. Those CMs are not empowered with decision-making powers. They are not permitted to decide what the rules are. Because some rogue employees are lazy and don't care doesn't make it right.

Rationalizing that it costs very little or that the company is rich does not make stealing less wrong.

Some people care about morals, and some don't.

"Real" morality means doing the right thing whether someone is watching you or not, it means doing the right thing even if you know you'll never in a million years be caught if you do the wrong thing.

THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'm sure there are movie theater employees who let a few people into the theater through the back fire exit. There is no actual per-person cost to the theater, so the employee doing so is really allowed to do it, right?

To me, the big deal has nothing to do with Disney and a few pennies' worth of syrup and water. It has everything to do with morality, with doing the right thing. We all know right from wrong, just some of us care and some of us don't.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I believe every word you wrote. I'm sure there are CMs who say and believe that. DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. Those CMs are not empowered with decision-making powers. They are not permitted to decide what the rules are. Because some rogue employees are lazy and don't care doesn't make it right.

Rationalizing that it costs very little or that the company is rich does not make stealing less wrong.

Some people care about morals, and some don't.

"Real" morality means doing the right thing whether someone is watching you or not, it means doing the right thing even if you know you'll never in a million years be caught if you do the wrong thing.

THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'm sure there are movie theater employees who let a few people into the theater through the back fire exit. There is no actual per-person cost to the theater, so the employee doing so is really allowed to do it, right?

To me, the big deal has nothing to do with Disney and a few pennies' worth of syrup and water. It has everything to do with morality, with doing the right thing. We all know right from wrong, just some of us care and some of us don't.

This is something I asked in mug debates before which no one answered, so I am going to ask it again. If you were at WDW & you knew someone was using an old mug at whatever Resort you were at, would you very nicley mention that to them, or would you mind your own business? If the CM's don't care why should you? Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do?

 

[CleveRocks]

This is something I asked in mug debates before which no one answered, so I am going to ask it again. If you were at WDW & you knew someone was using an old mug at whatever Resort you were at, would you very nicley mention that to them, or would you mind your own business? If the CM's don't care why should you? Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do?

I wouldn't approach someone and tell them I disagree with what they are doing. What they do is really none of my business. This is a message board and I'm stating my opinion. This is a VERY appropriate place for me to share my opinions and thoughts. But even if I disagree with what I actually witness someone else doing in real life, well, I'm not a Disney employee, I'm not the police, and I'm not going to put myself in that position. REPEAT: I see someone at POFQ refilling a CBR mug from 1992, I'm keeping my own stupid thoughts to myself.

Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do?

I thought that line bore repeating. Like I said, "real" morality means doing the right thing because it's the right thing, not because you're fearful of getting caught. I don't steal. And I certainly don't want to teach my kids that it's okay to steal if I'm stealing only a little bit and it's from a very wealthy corporation that in reality won't be harmed by my actions.

You also said if the CMs don't care then why should I? I care, in my mind, because there are some situations in life where there is right and wrong. This is one of them. It has nothing to do with the fact that some employees don't care about that. Like I said, I'm not in a position to enforce the rules/laws, so I would never place myself in such a position. If there are rules/laws, and the employees fail to enforce those rules/laws or worse yet even encourage them to be broken, that still doesn't make it right.

Do you understand that, in many cases, there is right and wrong? Or is everything to you just a matter of what you think you can get away with? This is an actual question, not a sarcastic response.

 

[CleveRocks]

CR Resort Fan 4 Life, let me give you an example of real-world morals.

I provided treatment to a teenager in his own home and community. I used a micro-cassette recorder (I don't know if they even exist anymore), a tape recorder with tiny cassettes that could fit in the palm of your hand. My client's father noticed I went through a lot of those tapes. He offered to get some for me (he knew I was just out of grad school and not exactly made of money) and I politely declined.

The follwing week, he gave me two boxes of them. I thanked him very much. Even though I declined his offer, I was flattered that he decided to help me out, and I didn't want to insult him by declining his thoughtful gesture. I offered to pay him for them, more of a gesture at being socially appropriate, as I knew he'd decline and I was going to leave it at that.

However, when he declined my offer for payment, he told me he didn't pay for them, that he took them from the office supply closet of one of the offices that he cleaned at night (he owned his own janitorial business).

I TURNED HIM DOWN. I DIDN'T ACCEPT THE TAPES. Why? I knew he stole them. I wasn't about to knowingly benefit from someone else stealing to get me something. He told me stuff like, "Oh, what's the big deal? It's a rich company and they don't pay me enough anyway. It won't hurt the company and they'll never miss the tapes -- they have several shelving units FULL of those tapes."

There's no way I'd get caught. There's no way he'd get caught. But I couldn't allow myself to benefit from someone else's theft, even if it didn't hurt the company. In this case, there was a definite right and wrong. What he did was wrong. Why should I care? I didn't steal the tapes! I cared because taking the tapes from him would have been wrong.

 

[Deb & Bill]

CleveRocks, you are my hero. I appreciate what you say.

And CR Resort Fan 4 Life? You've heard the answers. It's still wrong. The CMs don't own the company. Doesn't matter if you get caught or not. You're always preaching not to park in the CR parking lot if you are not a guest there. What's the difference between parking at a resort you are not a guest at and using a resort mug that you bought on a previous trip? They are both wrong.

 

[annie1995]

This is so funny! It's a mug of soda, there are way worse crimes happening in the world than people re-using mugs

BTW, we do rebuy our mugs everytime we go, cause I love using them everyday at home. Anyhoo, our mug from Port Orleans Riverside states that it is good your length of stay. This length of stay, or the next length of stay? It isn't stay specific. There could be some confusion I guess in some way, if someone wants to be completely technical about the wording. All this for a mug

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

1st off all I don't consider it stealing if your using an old mug from the Resort you purchased it at. It's stealing if you bring it to another Resort & fill it up there.

2nd of all when we got our Contemporary mugs there were no signs that said good for lenght of stay on the mugs or by the soda machine, the Cast Memeber said they were good for life & future visits. We were told the same thing when we bought our mugs at the Wilderness Lodge. So because of that, I don't see myself stealing or cheating Disney out of 5 cents worth of syrup & water, when we were told we can use the mugs again & again.

As for parking at the Contemporary & then going to the Magic Kingdom if your not a guest, everyone knows it's wrong & there were signs to prove it. The saying "Good for lenght of stay" in my opinion does not mean can not bring back again, because it's not in the title. To me it means good from the day you check in, to the day you check out. Prehaps WDW should have used Taco Bell's refill slogan & said, refills are only good on this trip only & not on future trips. To me that makes a difference, although I am sure you will disagree with me about that.

 

[CleveRocks]

The saying "Good for lenght of stay" in my opinion does not mean can not bring back again, because it's not in the title. To me it means good from the day you check in, to the day you check out. Prehaps WDW should have used Taco Bell's refill slogan & said, refills are only good on this trip only & not on future trips. To me that makes a difference, although I am sure you will disagree with me about that.

Yes, I disagree. This will be my final comment on this matter. I realize there's no getting through to you, so I guess I'm just talking to everyone else.

Your logic of conveniently using your own home-spun definitions for what is plain-spoken language truly staggers me. I hope you're just playing and you don;t actually think this way. Let me apply your logic and your creative linguistics to a more concrete example closer to you.

Let's say I'm walking through the Eaton Centre and stop in Athlete's World. I see a Leafs cap I like. Big signs at the front of the store and throughout the store say "No stealing our merchandise."

I grab the Leafs cap and stuff it into my jacket and walk out into the mall and eventually out onto Yonge Street, where I put on the cap and keep walking. I know everything's cool because I didn't steal the cap. I'm simply trying it out, I'm giving it a test drive to see if I like it, if it fits well, if it stands up to wind coming off the lake. My intent is not to steal the cap, it's to see if I like it, and they should let me do that because I spend a lot of money at Athlete's World and the C$25 I might have paid for the cap is meaningless to the company, a mere drop in the bucket. Besides, I would diagree with anyone who says I stole the cap. I'm just trying it out. Leave me alone already. I didn't steal it, I swear!