RANT: I don't care if you want to sit next to your kids on the airplane

[Jennasis]

The OP does claim to have a child. They were the one who started the thread about not bringing uninvited siblings to a birthday party.

 

[ZuZugal]

The OP does claim to have a child. They were the one who started the thread about not bringing uninvited siblings to a birthday party.

Yes. Her post:

"We never assumed that siblings were invited if the invite was addressed to the child. I don't know why anyone would think differently."

Says it all right there in bold. Why would anyone think differently THAN THE WAY I DO?? She's not coming back, though she continues to read the thread. She has her opinion, and doesn;t know why anyone would think differently.

she's lurking for entertainment purposes I guess. I doubt we got the whole story to begin with.

 

[roseaster]

My goodness, a lot of people are reading a lot into this.

Airline travel stinks if you have to fly coach. A lot of people are cranky and get their knickers in a knot over their seating assignment. I have flown solo, with just my husband, and with my whole clan of kids.

In the situation as both a solo traveler and with my kids people have asked me to trade seats. Some have been polite, some have not. I have traded in some situations and in others I have refused.

The point was, whether the OP is sincere or not, she isn't obligated to give up her seat, period. She doubly isn't obligated if she paid extra for that seat for whatever reasons, and her reasons don't matter. Maybe she wasn't sparkly pixie dust in her wording, but if she paid for the seat she is entitled to sit in it.

My kids are woefully inadequate by Dis standards. No one is gifted and taking 10 AP classes, or a gifted athlete excelling in competitive sports being scouted by top universities, or even perfectly behaved angels with the vocabulary and diction of the queen, but every, single one of them has been able to sit by themselves on a flight from about the age of 6 or 7ish on. They don't even want to sit with us now.

I have flown with children of all ages from infants to teens. When my kids were toddlers/preschoolers and I had to sit next to them I made sure I paid for assigned seating. Only once were we separated, I explained the situation to the gate agent and she fixed it before the flight even boarded.

I don't even get the point of the party invitation post. I thought it was common etiquette that only the person named on the invitation was invited.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't necessarily get the idea that the OP would not move for anyone. I think the OP was upset because it was "demanded." Also, the OP did not need to handle it with any more than a simple NO. I would think it was the person asking the OP to move that should have to be as sweet as honey, not the OP.

I think thinking nasty thoughts of other people is fine, for what it is worth. I deal with stressful situations everyday in which I say one thing, but think something completely different (and not so nice). I consider it a coping mechanism.

That could be true. But since OP didn't come back, all we can do is go by what we observed.


And yeah, I can see the coping mechanism. But a number of folks weren't there and automatically knew she was evil incarnate.

Maybe in a few years, she will join the DIS, bump the thread and insist she is the mom in the scenario and tell us "her side". Lol. (Casual reference to a lawsuit zombie thread that was bumped by posters "in the story" once every few years.)

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

My goodness, a lot of people are reading a lot into this.

Airline travel stinks if you have to fly coach. A lot of people are cranky and get their knickers in a knot over their seating assignment. I have flown solo, with just my husband, and with my whole clan of kids.

In the situation as both a solo traveler and with my kids people have asked me to trade seats. Some have been polite, some have not. I have traded in some situations and in others I have refused.

The point was, whether the OP is sincere or not, she isn't obligated to give up her seat, period. She doubly isn't obligated if she paid extra for that seat for whatever reasons, and her reasons don't matter. Maybe she wasn't sparkly pixie dust in her wording, but if she paid for the seat she is entitled to sit in it.

My kids are woefully inadequate by Dis standards. No one is gifted and taking 10 AP classes, or a gifted athlete excelling in competitive sports being scouted by top universities, or even perfectly behaved angels with the vocabulary and diction of the queen, but every, single one of them has been able to sit by themselves on a flight from about the age of 6 or 7ish on. They don't even want to sit with us now.

I have flown with children of all ages from infants to teens. When my kids were toddlers/preschoolers and I had to sit next to them I made sure I paid for assigned seating. Only once were we separated, I explained the situation to the gate agent and she fixed it before the flight even boarded.

I don't even get the point of the party invitation post. I thought it was common etiquette that only the person named on the invitation was invited.

Post confirms she has a child and apparently her attitude in how she handles things in a don't move my cheese sort of way. (I do agree about the party invitations though.)

FTR--totally fine with keeping the seat.

 

[bsblady01]

I'm confused.

People that have kids don't demand that others move? They clearly do.

People who have kids don't refuse to move? I have 4 kids and if I paid extra for a certain seat, I'm sitting in it unless you're handing me the extra cash I paid or moving me into a much better seat.

How is this one reason you don't fly with your kids? My two youngest have autism and we have no trouble flying. I've taken them by myself on flights several times. It's no big deal and I'm not even a teacher used to being in charge of dozens of kids.

we don't fly with our kids because the price is very high for a family of five and we like to drive down

 

[LiveYourLife]

Meh, who cares if the OP comes back or not. Even if (s)he just posted it to get a rise out of people, it was actually a bit of a failed attempt, seeing how the majority of posters agree with the OP's situation (real or not).

 

[Topper]

Since we are still discussing!!!!!

To me, the biggest factor in my thoughts/judgements is this, right from the original post.



THE OP, HERSELF, is using very negative and immature language and issuing unfair and negative judgments about this family.
I mean, this was what the OP refers to as SnotoriousBIG 2016, with every single flight full... and she assumes that, under these circumstances, this woman had just made the decision to take her chances... Really??? The assumption that this woman 'doesn't want to pay for her seat'... Really???

And, I will probably get flamed for this... my flame suit is on and securely sealed...
I think her high-and-mighty judgment and holier than thou attitude continues with the 'someone in uniform' statement.

I am going to go out on a limb here and wonder just how an adult, in uniform, that should be strong and competent warrants more consideration in this type of situation than a child?

Maybe there is more to the story. I am sure that there is.
But, I see a lot of assumptions, and a very negative and judgmental attitude, on the part of the OP, based on no knowledge and no evidence whatsoever that this mother did anything wrong at all, other than being caught up in travel plans in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hey, if the OP really had her reasons and felt strongly about staying in that seat... I can understand that. I can commiserate.
I am NOT going to flame or judge, based on that alone.

But, it seems from what was posted that the OP has very little understanding of how things go when flying today, and a lot of entitlement.

Did the OP state their gender? Not that I can tell. Just who is making assumptions and negative/judgemental comments? Do you have a mirror?

 

[kaytieeldr]

It seems rather jerky that in some examples involving infants where the airline disregarded the age in seat assignments that the OP would have the same rant they wouldn't move unless they are paid 5x what they paid for the upgrade. If the OP truly felt that way, I would hope that airline karma bit them in the posterior.

I don't know the OP, I wasn't there, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But this child wasn't an infant. The child was in the middle seat. A non-lap child infant would be in a car seat and that seat would have to be at the window.

THE OP, HERSELF, is using very negative and immature language

Ratatouille is creative, not immature. As for overall negative language, well, it is a rant after all.

Maybe there is more to the story. I am sure that there is.
But, I see a lot of assumptions, and a very negative and judgmental attitude, on the part of the OP, based on no knowledge and no evidence

I see a lot of assumptions, and a very negative and judgmental attitude in many of the responses.

Yes. Her post:

"We never assumed that siblings were invited if the invite was addressed to the child. I don't know why anyone would think differently."

Says it all right there in bold. Why would anyone think differently THAN THE WAY I DO?? She's not coming back, though she continues to read the thread. She has her opinion, and doesn;t know why anyone would think differently.

she's lurking for entertainment purposes I guess. I doubt we got the whole story to begin with.

Try it with the complete thought: "I don't know why anyone would think siblings are/were invited to a party when the invitation is addressed to one single child in the family."

The point was, whether the OP is sincere or not, she isn't obligated to give up her seat, period. She doubly isn't obligated if she paid extra for that seat for whatever reasons

She triply isn't obligated to post any response to any of the assumptions here.

 

[kaytieeldr]

we don't fly with our kids because the price is very high for a family of five and we like to drive down

So you drive to Orlando at Christmas, and you're driving to the cruise in April?

 

[LiveYourLife]

So you drive to Orlando at Christmas, and you're driving to the cruise in April?

NM @kaytieeldr. I know who you were responding to.

 

[bsblady01]

So you drive to Orlando at Christmas, and you're driving to the cruise in April?

if you are talking to me yes we are driving down for the cruise and yes we always drive down for Christmas. This year we are going to pull our camper down and camp at the fort

 

[kaytieeldr]

NM @kaytieeldr. I know who you were responding to.

Yeah, sorry, fixed it

 

[NewRVLady]

if you are talking to me yes we are driving down for the cruise and yes we always drive down for Christmas. This year we are going to pull our camper down and camp at the fort

will Disney let you leave it unoccupied while you cruise?

 

[bsblady01]

will Disney let you leave it unoccupied while you cruise?

the cruise is in april and the land part is during Christmas

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't know the OP, I wasn't there, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But this child wasn't an infant. The child was in the middle seat. A non-lap child infant would be in a car seat and that seat would have to be at the window.

Ratatouille is creative, not immature. As for overall negative language, well, it is a rant after all.

I see a lot of assumptions, and a very negative and judgmental attitude in many of the responses.


Try it with the complete thought: "I don't know why anyone would think siblings are/were invited to a party when the invitation is addressed to one single child in the family."


She triply isn't obligated to post any response to any of the assumptions here.

I didn't claim the kid was. I am merely referring to the Op's general stance and absent their option to return and clarify...I shared my opinion on their lack of caring.

The thing about a colorful rant that is absent details for a clearer picture, the poster runs the risk of folks judging their judgement. Even the folks agreeing are judging the mom. There is enough judging for all sides of the story.

 

[okeydokey]

I didn't claim the kid was. I am merely referring to the Op's general stance and absent their option to return and clarify...I shared my opinion on their lack of caring.

The thing about a colorful rant that is absent details for a clearer picture, the poster runs the risk of folks judging their judgement. Even the folks agreeing are judging the mom. There is enough judging for all sides of the story.

I'm fairly certain the OP doesn't care much if folks are judging their judgement. Ha ha.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm fairly certain the OP doesn't care much if folks are judging their judgement. Ha ha.

Probably enjoying all of the Judgy McJudgersons.

I admire the willpower require to post and just let it go.

 

[roseaster]

Post confirms she has a child and apparently her attitude in how she handles things in a don't move my cheese sort of way. (I do agree about the party invitations though.)

FTR--totally fine with keeping the seat.

I still doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what the party invitation has to do with anything. It's rude to bring an uninvited guest. I don't think that says anything about the OP. I think that is just accepted convention.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I still doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what the party invitation has to do with anything. It's rude to bring an uninvited guest. I don't think that says anything about the OP. I think that is just accepted convention.

One thing to have an opinion on etiquette, far another in how you present it. That is the only thing I can think of. The initial mention was just to show she had kids. The follow up was on how she presented her opinion on that topic. (This is not an expression of how I view the OP.)