Prince Philip has died

[ronandannette]

Before her untimely demise, she attracted her fair share of criticism. Not to say she was a demon - her work in minefields and with AIDs sufferers spoke volumes. But she wasn't perfect.

Safe to say no one is one-dimensionally all good or bad, and I’ve mentioned a tIme or two on these Royal threads that we don’t actually know these people, no matter how much we feel like we do.

 

[bcla]

The coolest story I heard about Prince Phillip was the time he was offered a drink at the White House, but he insisted that he would only accept it if the server would let the Prince pour it and also have the server partake.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99418917​

When reflecting on his fondest memory, Westray talks about a time in 1979 when Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip visited the White House. After dinner, Prince Philip went into the Red Room, next to the state dining room. Westray and his buddy were serving liquor. Westray says he was carrying the tray and glasses.​

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"The prince was in there by himself, which was odd, because everybody else had gone down to the other end of the building," Westray says. "I said, 'Your Majesty, would you care for a cordial?' He says, 'I'll take one if you let me serve it.' What do you do? I didn't do all that because I had the stuff in my hand. And he says, 'If you let me pour it, I'll have one with you.'​

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"... So he poured it, the one he wanted, and we took the same thing that he had. And we had our drink there together and had a little talk while we were there. He told us if we were ever over there in London to stop at Buckingham Palace and see him. Can you imagine the prince serving you? I enjoyed it. You know, we're not supposed to drink and carry on at that time. We're not guests. It was just the three of us in the room, so nobody knew what happened. And I drank my little cordial, we all drank, and had a little conversation. But that was one thing I'll never forget, having been served by royalty."​

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

Safe to say no one is one-dimensionally all good or bad, and I’ve mentioned a tIme or two on these Royal threads that we don’t actually know these people, no matter how much we feel like we do.

This is very true

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Safe to say no one is one-dimensionally all good or bad, and I’ve mentioned a tIme or two on these Royal threads that we don’t actually know these people, no matter how much we feel like we do.

‘We are not wholly bad or good
Who live our lives under Milk Wood,
And Thou, I know, wilt be the first
To see our best side, not our worst.’

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Because they are not child age. I don't mean anything by it. Jeez!

When I refer to my adult ‘children’, I always put children in quotes. The English language is amazing and has so many nuances, that I find it odd that we don’t have a word for adult child. I wonder if other languages do. I am not brave enough to try using spinster daughter and bachelor son.

 

[AurumPunzel]

Has just been announced on BBC news that the funeral will be on Saturday 17th April, 3pm UK time, in Windsor. It will be a ceremonial royal funeral that will be televised but not a state funeral.

There is an online book of a condolence if anyone is interested in signing

Send a message of condolence | The Royal Family

He didn't want all the fuss, which showed his more humble and down-to-earth character. Prince Philip was one-of-a-kind - a prince of great candour and loyalty. Not only that, he was also a war hero - having served in the Royal Navy during WW2, an inspiration to youth (hence why he established the DofE scheme), and a conservationist as well, who no doubt inspired the likes of Sir David Attenborough and the Irwins in their great work for protecting our Earth's precious species and nature.

Rest in Peace.

 

[mamamia2005]

He didn't want all the fuss, which showed his more humble and down-to-earth character. Prince Philip was one-of-a-kind - a prince of great candour and loyalty. Not only that, he was also a war hero - having served in the Royal Navy during WW2, an inspiration to youth (hence why he established the DofE scheme), and a conservationist as well, who no doubt inspired the likes of Sir David Attenborough and the Irwins in their great work for protecting our Earth's precious species and nature.

Rest in Peace.

Yes, I definitely feel he is getting the type of funeral he would have wanted.

Edited to add, those not in the UK also may not realise that we are still under covid restrictions. Currently, no more than 30 people plus the clergy are allowed to attend a funeral. So obviously that has changed things too. I read that in normal times upto 800 people would have been expected to attend from far and wide family to all the charities and organisations he was involved with.

 

[NotUrsula]

Aww Prince Charles has made me tear up

'My dear Papa was a very special person': Prince Charles pays tribute to Prince Philip | ITV News

They really didn't get on all that well when Charles was a child; there was a strange competition between Philip and Louis Mountbatten for Charles' love and attention; and whilst he was alive, "Uncle Dickie" won it. After Mountbatten's assassination Charles grew much closer to Philip, and I believe that they mended fences over pretty much everything.

The influence of Louis Mountbatten on that family as it is now cannot ever be overstated; he treated them all like puppets in his own little personal game of thrones, wheeling and dealing to enlarge his own sphere of influence at every turn. They all adored him (and still worship his memory), and he was certainly brilliant, but Louis Mouhtbatten was not an ethically upstanding man. I would say that the marriage between Elizabeth & Philip succeeded not because of him (as he liked to take credit for it) but in spite of him. They complimented one another very well.

 

[CdnCarrie]

They really didn't get on all that well when Charles was a child; there was a strange competition between Philip and Louis Mountbatten for Charles' love and attention; and whilst he was alive, "Uncle Dickie" won it. After Mountbatten's assassination Charles grew much closer to Philip, and I believe that they mended fences over pretty much everything.

The influence of Louis Mountbatten on that family as it is now cannot ever be overstated; he treated them all like puppets in his own little personal game of thrones, wheeling and dealing to enlarge his own sphere of influence at every turn. They all adored him, and still do, and he was certainly brilliant, but he was not an ethically upstanding man.

I find it funny when people say that Philip was not a great guy as there was a possibility that he had an affair.

You look at people like Louis and Edwina and their peers such as the Vanderbilt sisters, Wallis Simpson, Colin Tennent etc.
They were all divorced, sleeping around, etc.

Philip looks like an angel compared to them!

Or Mark Phillips that fathered a child while married to the Queen’s daughter.

 

[mom2rtk]

‘We are not wholly bad or good
Who live our lives under Milk Wood,
And Thou, I know, wilt be the first
To see our best side, not our worst.’

Unfortunately not a common approach these days.

 

[bcla]

So sad. He was a TRUE Gentleman. A Great Brit through and through. May he rest in peace. Prayers to the Queen.

He was certainly a cool guy, but we’ve gone over his tendency to say stupid things in public.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Before her untimely demise, she attracted her fair share of criticism. Not to say she was a demon - her work in minefields and with AIDs sufferers spoke volumes. But she wasn't perfect.

I don't think she was a demon at all but rather probably a very good person. Diana was involved with many worthy causes and appeared to be a good Mum. She was flawed and made many mistakes.

 

[DisneyOma]

May I respectfully suggest that you listen carefully to this recording made of Princess Elizabeth to mark her 21st birthday.

I got to the 3 minute mark and it was too painful to continue. Not impressed by what she was saying at the beginning, glorifying the British colonization of the past. "Oh, it's so great that I get to go visit all these places and they welcome me" - like they have a choice?

Diana bears a great deal of responsibility for the tragedy of her own life. She made many bad choices.

She did, the first in agreeing to marry Charles, but she was young and was promised the world. Imagine being dumped for Camilla? He wore the freaking cufflinks (with 2 letter C's entwined) on their honeymoon?!? His parents knew, he knew, and still pressed on with it all.

 

[ronandannette]

I don't think she was a demon at all but rather probably a very good person. Diana was involved with many worthy causes and appeared to be a good Mum. She was flawed and made many mistakes.

Sounds like you could be describing most of us.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I got to the 3 minute mark and it was too painful to continue. Not impressed by what she was saying at the beginning, glorifying the British colonization of the past. "Oh, it's so great that I get to go visit all these places and they welcome me" - like they have a choice?



She did, the first in agreeing to marry Charles, but she was young and was promised the world. Imagine being dumped for Camilla? He wore the freaking cufflinks (with 2 letter C's entwined) on their honeymoon?!? His parents knew, he knew, and still pressed on with it all.

Do you think Diana’s family was ignorant of the relationship? Perhaps they all thought C&C would end the affair? Who knows? Diana played with the media to get the attention she craved and used them to further her causes. She ended up in the car with a drunk driver who was traveling at a very high speed. It’s what killed her not the RF.

 

[snappy]

I watched the tributes to their father that Charles, Anne, and Edward recorded. I thought they were touching. I am glad Philip was home for a few weeks before he passed, rather than still in the hospital. Than’s what I would have wanted if it were me.

 

[bobbiwoz]

RIP Prince Philip.... prayers for your family as they cope with your loss.

 

[MrsPete]

I find it funny when people say that Philip was not a great guy as there was a possibility that he had an affair.

Few of us -- if any -- are completely good or completely bad. In real life the line blurs between hero and villain, and most of us are just people.
Having said that, even if it is common, having an affair is one of the top things that "great guys" just don't do.
Regardless, I don't think any of us actually know whether he had an affair or not.

He was certainly a cool guy, but we’ve gone over his tendency to say stupid things in public.

Yes, but if you live almost a century -- most of it in the public eye -- stupid things are going to come out of your mouth occasionally.

She did, the first in agreeing to marry Charles, but she was young and was promised the world. Imagine being dumped for Camilla? He wore the freaking cufflinks (with 2 letter C's entwined) on their honeymoon?!? His parents knew, he knew, and still pressed on with it all.

I suspect his parents thought he'd "settle down" and become interested in Diana /his new family once he was married. That he'd do his duty. Obviously they were wrong.

Do you think Diana’s family was ignorant of the relationship? Perhaps they all thought C&C would end the affair? Who knows? Diana played with the media to get the attention she craved and used them to further her causes. She ended up in the car with a drunk driver who was traveling at a very high speed. It’s what killed her not the RF.

I think Diana's biggest flaw was that she was so incredibly young and naive when she married Charles. She genuinely thought she was getting the fairy tale.
Her family should have realized the truth, but with the possibility of their Diana becoming queen, I think they looked the other way when they should've been vigilant on her behalf. They could've insisted on a longer engagement, could've insisted that they get to know one another better -- but everyone jumped fast.

 

[person]

Few of us -- if any -- are completely good or completely bad. In real life the line blurs between hero and villain, and most of us are just people.

We only have to look at the Bible to see the human heart as it is really portrayed.

With the years, Prince Philip, once, many decades back, a dashing young naval gentleman became a very senior, steady pillar to the Royal Household. His passing leaves a huge void.

 

[bcla]

Yes, but if you live almost a century -- most of it in the public eye -- stupid things are going to come out of your mouth occasionally.

His mistakes were generally insulting and often based on ethnic stereotypes. He was often just careless in his remarks when he probably should have been more restrained. But that's kind of who he was.