Parents of the High School Class of 2017/College 2021

[aprilgail]

DD got her scores back today too. They are higher than we expected. So I guess the big question is… is a new SAT 1200 math/verbal score on par with the old SAT 1200 math/verbal score? Or is a new 1200 lower than the old 1200???!!!! I think we may just stick with the ACT; it's a known entity.

a new 1200 is equivalent to an old 1800

 

[punkin]

I'm waiting for DNiece to come home from school so she can check her scores. She's taking an AP so she's not reachable.

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

a new 1200 is equivalent to an old 1800

That's what DD said but 1800 included the writing portion right - so out of 2400? So what does it compare to with just old math and verbal?

Colleges in my area never looked at the old SAT on a 2400 point scale. They only really cared about and reported on their admissions websites the 1600 math/verbal scores.

 

[Sanchez]

a new 1200 is equivalent to an old 1800

That is absolutely not the case. The scale for the old SAT was based on an 2400 point maximum and the new a 1600 point maximum, however an old 1800 does not equate to a new 1200. I am not sure how you made your calculations, but I read your earlier post to mean that your daughter increased the equivalent of 350 points when adjusting the new score to the old score. That is (for example) if she scored an 1800 on the old SAT the conversation of her new score would equate to a 2150. That is a huge (and unlikely) jump and indicates that you have not applied the proper conversion tools.

The raw scores on the new SAT are estimated to be, on average, higher than on the old. For example, a 600 on the old math might be the same as a 650 on the new math.

Yesterday, College Board released Concordance Tables which can estimate old versus new/new versus old. https://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/concordance

 

[Poohforyou]

I am thinking that Colleges will also ramp up their SAT requirements as well then, if they are expecting scores from the new SAT will be up across the board. Scholarships too.

If they do this there will need to be consideration for students who only took the old SAT. My dd took it once in October and got an amazing score. There wasn't much room for her to even increase her score if she were even capable of doing better. Given that she decided to stick with her one score.

Interestingly, some of the schools she's looking at like GW and American don't even require standardized tests.

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

I don't know what to think. DD got a 24 on the ACT (equivalent to 1110 math/verbal on old SAT) and a 1220 on new SAT. For the schools she's looking at, she needs to get her ACT score up to 28 or 29 to be in their range. I have no idea what their new SAT ranges will be.

ETA: Finally found the correct concordance table. New 1220 m/v equals old 1150 m/v or a 25 on ACT.

 

[AustinTink]

The concordance table is not sitting well with a lot of people I've spoken to.

 

[aprilgail]

That is absolutely not the case. The scale for the old SAT was based on an 2400 point maximum and the new a 1600 point maximum, however an old 1800 does not equate to a new 1200. I am not sure how you made your calculations, but I read your earlier post to mean that your daughter increased the equivalent of 350 points when adjusting the new score to the old score. That is (for example) if she scored an 1800 on the old SAT the conversation of her new score would equate to a 2150. That is a huge (and unlikely) jump and indicates that you have not applied the proper conversion tools.

The raw scores on the new SAT are estimated to be, on average, higher than on the old. For example, a 600 on the old math might be the same as a 650 on the new math.

Yesterday, College Board released Concordance Tables which can estimate old versus new/new versus old. https://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/concordance

I had looked at prep scholar- ok so it still is an increase of 200 for my daughter which is great.

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

That is absolutely not the case. The scale for the old SAT was based on an 2400 point maximum and the new a 1600 point maximum, however an old 1800 does not equate to a new 1200. I am not sure how you made your calculations, but I read your earlier post to mean that your daughter increased the equivalent of 350 points when adjusting the new score to the old score. That is (for example) if she scored an 1800 on the old SAT the conversation of her new score would equate to a 2150. That is a huge (and unlikely) jump and indicates that you have not applied the proper conversion tools.

The raw scores on the new SAT are estimated to be, on average, higher than on the old. For example, a 600 on the old math might be the same as a 650 on the new math.

Yesterday, College Board released Concordance Tables which can estimate old versus new/new versus old. https://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/concordance

I couldn't get to the May 9, 2016, concordance table through your link, but I did find it eventually here.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/higher-ed-brief-sat-concordance.pdf

 

[punkin]

SAT scores are in. Not horrible, but I feel they are on the low side. Signed her up for June and will sit and drill math.

 

[Poohforyou]

SAT scores are in. Not horrible, but I feel they are on the low side. Signed her up for June and will sit and drill math.

If your finances allow, you might consider a few sessions with an SAT tutor. My dd had one last summer and she was worth every penny.

It isn't just knowing the subject matter but also testing strategy.

 

[robinb]

My DDis taking her AP language and composition test today . It's her first AP class. She's getting an "A" in the class, but she sucks at standardized tests. I'm just hoping for a "3" so she passes.

 

[punkin]

If your finances allow, you might consider a few sessions with an SAT tutor. My dd had one last summer and she was worth every penny.

It isn't just knowing the subject matter but also testing strategy.

She doesn't want to. My oldest had a tutor and hated it. Maybe that's why neither younger DD nor DNiece want one. I don't know if I should push it.

 

[punkin]

My DDis taking her AP language and composition test today . It's her first AP class. She's getting an "A" in the class, but she sucks at standardized tests. I'm just hoping for a "3" so she passes.

DNiece is taking it today too. Yesterday was government. We will see how it goes.

 

[bjscheel]

Getting kind of nervous, today is District Track, where they qualify for State. DD has a really good chance in all 4 of her events...they are ranked 1st or 2nd in their district in each. 1st place tonight automatically gets in, then the next 12 fastest times around the state get to go too.

Monday night they had a goal of breaking the school record in the 4x200...they were literally all lined up and ready for that one when the lightning came and the meet was called off. She and her team were SO disappointed. So I'm hoping tonight is a success. The 4x200 has a substitution but they might still make that record, so that would be fantastic in addition to getting some events to State! Once they get to State, we usually place in the bottom half of the event, but hey, it's great to get there.

We need the wind to die down, though, please...

 

[Poohforyou]

Getting kind of nervous, today is District Track, where they qualify for State. DD has a really good chance in all 4 of her events...they are ranked 1st or 2nd in their district in each. 1st place tonight automatically gets in, then the next 12 fastest times around the state get to go too.

Monday night they had a goal of breaking the school record in the 4x200...they were literally all lined up and ready for that one when the lightning came and the meet was called off. She and her team were SO disappointed. So I'm hoping tonight is a success. The 4x200 has a substitution but they might still make that record, so that would be fantastic in addition to getting some events to State! Once they get to State, we usually place in the bottom half of the event, but hey, it's great to get there.

We need the wind to die down, though, please...

Good luck to her, that's awesome!!

 

[mamacatnv]

Getting kind of nervous, today is District Track, where they qualify for State. DD has a really good chance in all 4 of her events...they are ranked 1st or 2nd in their district in each. 1st place tonight automatically gets in, then the next 12 fastest times around the state get to go too.

Monday night they had a goal of breaking the school record in the 4x200...they were literally all lined up and ready for that one when the lightning came and the meet was called off. She and her team were SO disappointed. So I'm hoping tonight is a success. The 4x200 has a substitution but they might still make that record, so that would be fantastic in addition to getting some events to State! Once they get to State, we usually place in the bottom half of the event, but hey, it's great to get there.

We need the wind to die down, though, please...

Well..........??? How did it go?

 

[bjscheel]

Well..........??? How did it go?

She's going to State in Distance Medley- they got 1st. The other events got 2nd, 2nd, and 3rd, so we were waiting to see if they qualified on times, but the list just came out half an hour ago and they did not. At least she got in one! She's gone every year so we have to keep that up!

Now I can cancel the hotel room I reserved just in case we had events on two days. Next issue to figure out is if we are going to get DD14 to her JV soccer game the same afternoon as State Track or if she is going to miss it. Logistically, we could make it to both. But it would be nicer to not have to be on the run so much.

 

[bjscheel]

Update Yesterday was State Track and her Distance Medley team that was seeded 15th of 24 got 2nd place! Very exciting! They were in the second heat of 3 and their time was way better than they had done before so we were hopeful for a medal- they only needed to beat one team of the third heat to get at least a medal, but we didn't expect to end all the way up at 2nd. Made up for a little of the disappointment of only getting in one event.

DD14's soccer game was cancelled- it had been a late addition to the schedule and too many girls had conflicts. I was glad because we were able to stay at the meet longer, and then eat at Texas Roadhouse with the team and parents. Then took the girls shopping. Was a wonderful day!

Has everyone got a lot of grad receptions to go to? We started with some last weekend. Today I took DD14 to the town north of us for some soccer friends, then as soon as we got back, both DD's headed to our school's town in the opposite direction for school friends. This evening an hour away for a church camp friend. Tomorrow my nephew's at 3, north of us, then the girls will go back to our town for more school friends. Such a busy weekend, but it's nice to see what people are doing, to get ideas for next year. We think we'll have DD's at our church since fewer people would drive out to the country to our house. Her BFF might share the reception with her. Already thinking about food ideas. After this year I think actual photo displays will be the way to go rather than a slideshow on a tv or laptop. Need to spend time picking photos to order.

 

[aprilgail]

Has everyone got a lot of grad receptions to go to? We started with some last weekend. Today I took DD14 to the town north of us for some soccer friends, then as soon as we got back, both DD's headed to our school's town in the opposite direction for school friends. This evening an hour away for a church camp friend. Tomorrow my nephew's at 3, north of us, then the girls will go back to our town for more school friends. Such a busy weekend, but it's nice to see what people are doing, to get ideas for next year. We think we'll have DD's at our church since fewer people would drive out to the country to our house. Her BFF might share the reception with her. Already thinking about food ideas. After this year I think actual photo displays will be the way to go rather than a slideshow on a tv or laptop. Need to spend time picking photos to order.

Not yet- School doesn't end until the last week of June so still have another month before that stuff happens! Jr Prom was last night and they had a blast there- they leave all the decorations up and today the honor society hosts a bunch of senior citizens for a spring party. The kids all had to bring a half tray of food and bottle of soda, they had a DJ and the kids all danced with, as they said, "the old people"- there was SO much grumbling going on today because they all had to get up and be there by 11 and they just got home from prom after parties after 2am but then we all started getting texts from the kids "this is great, I am dancing with these cute old people" - my friends daughter texted her "this is better than the Jr Prom" LOL- so young and old had a good time!