Palin with Couric.

As an independent voter (who, as I've said has decided to vote for Obama in November) I have to comment on these types of posts.

I keep seeing people trying to compare Obama to Palin in terms of experience.

Yes, they both are very light on the type of experience that is historically important to the job of President, but there's a very important distinction in my mind.

Obama was selected through a rigorous, prolonged process called the primary election season. Millions of people looked at and evaluated his experience and decided that, even taking that into consideration, he was the man they wanted for president.

You can agree or disagree with that distinction, but it was the wisdom of the electorate that put him in this position. Questionable, to be sure, but that's the way the wisdom of crowds works sometimes.

Palin, on the other hand, is in her position because of the decision of one man. John McCain made the decision to put Palin in the place where she is today. The responsibility for that decision lies solely with him.

If you fell she is inexperienced, then you only have John McCain to blame for that fact.

To me, that was the day I really started to question McCain. They say that the choice of running mate is the first presidential decision that a candidate makes, and in my opinion, as we are learning now, McCain put politics and his campaign first, not the country.

well said! :thumbsup2

I would have voted for him in 2000.

My, how times have changed. There is not a shred of respect left for the man. The maverick has morphed himself into the consumate 'Me' politician.

I liked how Obama said this morning that there will be a stage, a moderator and at least one candidate at the debates tomorrow night. Let's see if McCain has the guts to debate him.

And I loved the idea one of the CNN reporters had yesterday to call McCain's bluff.

If the presidential candidates can't possibly debate tomorrow and it really needs to be pushed back to Thursday (conveniently the VP debate date), why not give the VP's tomorrow's slot? Just switch and let the VP's debate tomorrow and the presidential candidates can debate Thursday.

Oh wait. This whole stunt is to keep Palin from debating.
 
Palin had a "Spies like us" moment. Did anyone see the 1980's movie SPIES LIKE US with Chevy Chase/Dan Ackroyd? They are two government spies and in one scene pose as medical doctors. They are forced to perform a appendectomy on a patient in front of a group of serious doctors. Obviously they don't know how. So one of the doctors ask, please walk us through the procedure. So they look at each other then quickly look at a text book to find the answer, while everyone waits for their response. :lmao:
 
I have a different take on it. I think she has a lot to say about the issues and has alot more knowledge than she is being given credit for, including her running mate. I think she probably has ideals more in keeping with what most Americans feel and should be given some freedom to be SP. However, TPTB are afraid to let he have her say which is a big mistake. she would endear people to her just as she did at the convention.

She does have a lot to say. Unfortunately, whenever she is allowed to speak off the cuff, she messes up.

She has only been on the scene for a few weeks and she is already amassing webpages full of blunders that are equal only to Bush's infamous Bushisms.

These are only a few of the better ones:

"That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." --Sarah Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first." --Sarah Palin, billed by John McCain as the nation's foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Sept. 17, 2008

"Nucular." --Sarah Palin, mispronouncing the word "nuclear" twice, ABC News interview, Sept. 11, 2008

"Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." --Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent, Sept. 11, 2008 (Watch the raw, unedited video)

"You'll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans." --Sarah Palin, linking the Iraq war the 9/11 attacks while addressing U.S. soldiers shipping off to Iraq, Fairbanks, Alaska, Sept. 11, 2008

We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." --Sarah Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated

"It's great to see another part of the country." --Sarah Palin, campaigning in Pennsylvania, Aug. 2008

and now the scary ones:

"As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" --Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008 (Watch video clip)

"I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Sarah Palin, interview with Alaska Business Monthly, March 2007

"We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative." --Sarah Palin, on the Bridge to Nowhere, interview with the Ketchikan Daily News, Oct. 2006
 

So basically you are saying that Obama is ready to be Pres, because he ran through a rigorus campaign? And Palin is not qualfied to be VP, because Mccain put her in the spot?

Listen, she worked her way to become governor. NO one handed her that position.

Even many Alaskans, some right here on the DIS, have stated that her competition was not strong with all the corruption going on. Anybody could have won. It was pretty much handed to her.
 
Did Palin really say that she doesn't know what her job is going to entail?

I know that Joe Biden is not perfect nor is Obama but at least Biden was ALSO running for President and did participate in many of the debates as well.

Palin was not running for President and why would she, how could she?

Was this something that she has "always" wanted? I don't think so.

She may be a great Governor for Alaska but she is not going to help Mccains ticket.

How is she going to help Mccain now dealing with this economy issue? Biden will be able to assist because he is aware of the situation. What could Palin bring to this. We are talking about a huge # here. If she doesn't know what her job is going to entail why did she say yes, without blinking?

I even ask my employer what my responsibilities will be. John Mccain can't hold her hand if they get in.
 
Did Palin really say that she doesn't know what her job is going to entail?

I know that Joe Biden is not perfect nor is Obama but at least Biden was ALSO running for President and did participate in many of the debates as well.

Palin was not running for President and why would she, how could she?

Was this something that she has "always" wanted? I don't think so.

She may be a great Governor for Alaska but she is not going to help Mccains ticket.

How is she going to help Mccain now dealing with this economy issue? Biden will be able to assist because he is aware of the situation. What could Palin bring to this. We are talking about a huge # here. If she doesn't know what her job is going to entail why did she say yes, without blinking?

I even ask my employer what my responsibilities will be. John Mccain can't hold her hand if they get in.

Watch this interview when Palin says she would like to know just what a VP does cause she's used to being busy......:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: It really is one of my favorite videos...too funny!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE
 
After this debacle, I commend Hilary for not attending the same function Palin was at. She sent a message of: I don't take this chick seriously.
 
So basically you are saying that Obama is ready to be Pres, because he ran through a rigorus campaign? And Palin is not qualfied to be VP, because Mccain put her in the spot?

Listen, she worked her way to become governor. NO one handed her that position.

Are you comparing a Presidential primary to a race for Governor in Alaska????
 
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I had a very similiar thought (your thought about SP, mine about Obama)about what 4-8 more yrs of experience would give to Obama. I think Obama would have been a very good VP, learning along the way to take over in 4-8 yrs, ready to lead our nation. I would have to give consideration to him if he were the VP running mate to a very experienced Presidential candidate. Obama has so little experience it is frightening and he is asking for the vote for the highest office in our governement. At least with McC we have a very good chance that he would be the president the entire 4 yr term, with a VP that was learning and becoming ready to lead over the course of 4 yrs, with Obama we know that we WILL have an inexperienced person in office....:scared1: I wish we were comparing the VP's experience for both sides, instead of the lack of experience that one of the VP candidates has vs. one of the Presidential candidate.
 
Did Palin really say that she doesn't know what her job is going to entail?.

Yup. As of July, 2008, TWO months ago, she had absolutely no idea what the Vice President of the United States job entails.

And she is ready to do the job?
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And don't forget:He's smart and has had a lot of schooling;)
So basically you are saying that Obama is ready to be Pres, because he ran through a rigorus campaign? And Palin is not qualfied to be VP, because Mccain put her in the spot?

Listen, she worked her way to become governor. NO one handed her that position.
 
And don't forget:He's smart and has had a lot of schooling;)

Why is that negative?? It scares me that people knock Obama for his intelligence and education. Maybe I am in the minority, but I will be encouraging my daughter to work very hard in school. I also want her to go to a top college. Guess that makes me a bad parent.....or at the very least "elite." :lmao:
 
Why is that negative?? It scares me that people knock Obama for his intelligence and education. Maybe I am in the minority, but I will be encouraging my daughter to work very hard in school. I also want her to go to a top college. Guess that makes me a bad parent.....or at the very least "elite." :lmao:

I'm with you. :thumbsup2

I worked hard to raise my 'big' kids to get the best and most education they could. Oh and we did that crazy stuff of turning off the tv and helping them with homework, reading to them every night until they were 12 or so. I'm working just as hard with my 'bonus' younger child right now. I hope and pray she grows up to be regarded as intelligent and highly educated. What parent wouldn't?:confused:

I cannot for the life of me comprehend how people consider intelligence and a quality education to be a negative:confused3 .

I live on a small income with my disabled Vietnam veteran husband and our adopted child. Who knew I'm a elitist??? ;)
 
No it's definitely NOT negative. That's not what I was referring to. Someone said Obama is the much more experienced candidate because he's smart and had a lot of schooling..imo that does not qualify someone to be the President.
Why is that negative?? It scares me that people knock Obama for his intelligence and education. Maybe I am in the minority, but I will be encouraging my daughter to work very hard in school. I also want her to go to a top college. Guess that makes me a bad parent.....or at the very least "elite." :lmao:
 
Maybe you guys should have read the whole thread before you jumped on me. You might have seen what I was saying. I just don't think being a smart guy qualifies him to be president. I sacrifice so that my kids can go to the best private school in my area. Obviously I value education as much as you do. Wow.

I'm with you. :thumbsup2

I worked hard to raise my 'big' kids to get the best and most education they could. Oh and we did that crazy stuff of turning off the tv and helping them with homework, reading to them every night until they were 12 or so. I'm working just as hard with my 'bonus' younger child right now. I hope and pray she grows up to be regarded as intelligent and highly educated. What parent wouldn't?:confused:

I cannot for the life of me comprehend how people consider intelligence and a quality education to be a negative:confused3 .

I live on a small income with my disabled Vietnam veteran husband and our adopted child. Who knew I'm a elitist??? ;)
 
But not having "enough" education does?

Palin went to 6 different schools for a Journalism degree, was then on TV and also was a beauty queen.

She does not have the correct knowledge for what lies ahead, I am not saying she isn't intelligent but she is lacking in that area if she keeps asking these questions and seems unprepared.

I would rather have someone who graduated from Columbia and also was head of the Harvard Law Review than someone who has a degree in journalism to help run our country.
 

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