OT: PSA regarding peanuts and flying

[WeLoveLilo05]

We had two people in our office who were allergic to bleach and their throats would swell up if the housekeepers used bleach to clean the office.

Another person's allergy may be as life-threatening or more than yours.

So what can I wipe down the tray with?

 

[Deb & Bill]

So what can I wipe down the tray with?

I guess you will need to find something that others are not allergic to, perhaps just water?

 

[livndisney]

I'm sorry I don't know the answer and not really sure what to say.
What is in the wipe that your allergic to? Would it effect you if I wiped my seat and your 2 rows ahead of me, I'm not trying to be snarky, just curious, I've never heard of anyone who is allergic to a disinfecting wipe. And the main reason I posted on this PSA was b/c it was dealing with peanut allergies and I wanted to help those who has PA's have a safe flight and take precautions.

Thank you for not being snarky. Yes, it would effect us 2 rows away. It is a chemical reaction to the clorox products. Most other wipes are fine. It is an allergy that is becoming more common (atleast according to the allergist.) I posted for the same reason as you. A PSA. As it is something people don't think about. As I posted earlier in the thread courtesy goes both ways. It would be nice if people could work together. But from what I have seen it is not happening.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

I guess you will need to find something that others are not allergic to, perhaps just water?

I don't think water will take the residue off.

Thank you for not being snarky. Yes, it would effect us 2 rows away. It is a chemical reaction to the clorox products. Most other wipes are fine. It is an allergy that is becoming more common (atleast according to the allergist.) I posted for the same reason as you. A PSA. As it is something people don't think about. As I posted earlier in the thread courtesy goes both ways. It would be nice if people could work together. But from what I have seen it is not happening.

Are the lysol wipes ok?

 

[roobug]

I don't think water will take the residue off.



Are the lysol wipes ok?

Do the clorox wipes even take the residue off? It's the oils that make the peanut residue correct? I don't think that bleach cuts through oil all that well. What about using a damp wash cloth with Dawn? Is anyone allergic to Dawn?

 

[disneycruising]

I really do not want to be flamed, so I will try and add my 2 cents carefully.

I have 2 boys with life threating allergies to peanuts and all tree nuts. They are also allergic to other items...that do not cause life threatening reactions.

We do everything we can to keep both boys safe on a daily basic. I say a prayer every day when I drop them off at school... 'that they will stay safe until I return to get them'. One of my biggest fears, is getting a phone call from the school telling me that the boys have had a reaction. Because a reaction for them.. means they might die. This is our reality!

We fly probably 2 or 3 times a year with the boys. We do everything we can to keep them safe. Including but not limited to... bring all medications, wiping everything down, bring them their own snacks, letting every person who works for the airline know of their allergies. But accidental reactions can happen. Even if we have done everything we could to keep them safe.

What I don't think people understand is, that if my sons have an "accidental" reaction during the flight... it might kill them. Because there is no way for them to get "medical help" fast enough. All we are doing is trying to keep our boys 'safe' on the flight. We are not trying to inconviences any one in anyway.

 

[Hannathy]

I don't think water will take the residue off.



Are the lysol wipes ok?

I don't know for sure about dogs but Lysol is deadly to cats. so with all the service animals around that may not be a good idea.

If it is residue you are taking off then water would work just as well because it is the friction of rubbing that is taking off the residue not the chemical. so yes water would be just as effective for residue.

 

[Deb & Bill]

...We fly probably 2 or 3 times a year with the boys. We do everything we can to keep them safe. Including but not limited to... bring all medications, wiping everything down, bring them their own snacks, letting every person who works for the airline know of their allergies. But accidental reactions can happen. Even if we have done everything we could to keep them safe.

What I don't think people understand is, that if my sons have an "accidental" reaction during the flight... it might kill them. Because there is no way for them to get "medical help" fast enough.

Wow, I'm surprised you want to take the risk of flying with your children so allergic.

 

[Suellen]

I don't know why I keep reading this thread. It has totally turned into my allergy is worse than your allergy, my kids life is more important than your kids life, there is NO way that your or your child's allergy can NEARLY be as fatal as mine.

I feel dumber just by reading it.

Again to the poster who keeps asking why those of us that have children who have fatal allergies fly ~ what do you expect us to do keep them in a bubble? Don't let them leave the house?

AGAIN ~ I must state I don't expect YOU (a general you) to do anything to prevent my child from being exposed. I, me, mom take all responsibility for it with my child. They only thing I ask is you not feed her berries ~ and well as a matter of fact I ask that you not feed either of my children ANYTHING.

As a general if you could go ahead and not TOUCH either of my children that would also be great.

I don't see what the problem here is?

I live in Maine where blueberries are growing EVERYWHERE. Our backyard has blackberries, strawberries and blueberries growing. If my goal in life were to 100% protect her from ever having a reaction she wouldn't leave her room. Great life. May as well let her eat a jar of berries.

To those that have airborne FATAL allergies ~ I guess I would find someway to prevent exposure for myself or my child.

The rest of us who are allergic to dogs and pet dander.... take an allergy pill with you in case there is a service animal or a lady who can't put her froo-froo dog in cargo. It happens now ~ we know it is a risk of flying the airlines that allow dogs in the cabin.

I don't get the fight???

 

[livndisney]

I really do not want to be flamed, so I will try and add my 2 cents carefully.

I have 2 boys with life threating allergies to peanuts and all tree nuts. They are also allergic to other items...that do not cause life threatening reactions.

We do everything we can to keep both boys safe on a daily basic. I say a prayer every day when I drop them off at school... 'that they will stay safe until I return to get them'. One of my biggest fears, is getting a phone call from the school telling me that the boys have had a reaction. Because a reaction for them.. means they might die. This is our reality!

We fly probably 2 or 3 times a year with the boys. We do everything we can to keep them safe. Including but not limited to... bring all medications, wiping everything down, bring them their own snacks, letting every person who works for the airline know of their allergies. But accidental reactions can happen. Even if we have done everything we could to keep them safe.

What I don't think people understand is, that if my sons have an "accidental" reaction during the flight... it might kill them. Because there is no way for them to get "medical help" fast enough.

This is our reality as well. And why we rarely fly. We have been told the only "treatment" is avoid clorox and avoid the reaction.

As far as what removes the protein(assuming there was peanut protein in the first place) is the friction from rubbing. Basic soap and water. A friend of ours travels with a wet soapy washcloth in in a baggie. Cheap, portable and environment friendly.

 

[disneycruising]

This is our reality as well. And why we rarely fly. We have been told the only "treatment" is avoid clorox and avoid the reaction.

As far as what removes the protein(assuming there was peanut protein in the first place) is the friction from rubbing. Basic soap and water. A friend of ours travels with a wet soapy washcloth in in a baggie. Cheap, portable and environment friendly.

I honestly had never thought that my cleaning t(o keep my child safe) would be a problem for any one. I will keep this in mind next time. Is there any Handi wipe products that are safe to use?

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I don't know why I keep reading this thread. It has totally turned into my allergy is worse than your allergy, my kids life is more important than your kids life, there is NO way that your or your child's allergy can NEARLY be as fatal as mine.

I feel dumber just by reading it.

Again to the poster who keeps asking why those of us that have children who have fatal allergies fly ~ what do you expect us to do keep them in a bubble? Don't let them leave the house?

AGAIN ~ I must state I don't expect YOU (a general you) to do anything to prevent my child from being exposed. I, me, mom take all responsibility for it with my child. They only thing I ask is you not feed her berries ~ and well as a matter of fact I ask that you not feed either of my children ANYTHING.

As a general if you could go ahead and not TOUCH either of my children that would also be great.

I don't see what the problem here is?

I live in Maine where blueberries are growing EVERYWHERE. Our backyard has blackberries, strawberries and blueberries growing. If my goal in life were to 100% protect her from ever having a reaction she wouldn't leave her room. Great life. May as well let her eat a jar of berries.

To those that have airborne FATAL allergies ~ I guess I would find someway to prevent exposure for myself or my child.

The rest of us who are allergic to dogs and pet dander.... take an allergy pill with you in case there is a service animal or a lady who can't put her froo-froo dog in cargo. It happens now ~ we know it is a risk of flying the airlines that allow dogs in the cabin.

I don't get the fight???

Well I will agree with you in that I do not want anyone feeding my kids anything and I absolutely hate when strangers try to touch them. I don't get why people can't keep their hands to themselves. I would never touch anyone's child.
I think the point about not flying is that to be honest, if my kids were so severe I would not fly. I would drive. That isn't keeping them in a bubble imo. That would be being proactive and keeping them safe which we both agree is our job and responsibility. Of course each family has to decide what is best for them and I respect that. You just can't be shocked though if others are not accomodating to your needs. That is why we are re-evaluating if we will be flying anytime soon. Some of us do have severe animal allergies that an allergy pill simply will not help. It could require hospitalization. So we have to decide if it is something that can be managed or not. If not then we won't fly. Is flying more convenient? Sure is. Is our health more important? Absolutely.

 

[disneycruising]

Some of us do have severe animal allergies that an allergy pill simply will not help. It could require hospitalization. So we have to decide if it is something that can be managed or not. If not then we won't fly. Is flying more convenient? Sure is. Is our health more important? Absolutely.

I think that it is really important for all of us to be understanding of other peoples situations. This tread has made me more aware of thing that I did not know before today. In the future, I will not wear purfume, use clorox wipes or eat ANY nuts on my next flight.

For the people with dog allergies. What do you do about your allergies on the plane? Do you call ahead and ask if there is any pets on that flight? I will admit...I have carry my yorkie with me onto the plane. Would this be a problem for you?

 

[roobug]

I think that it is really important for all of us to be understanding of other peoples situations. This tread has made me more aware of thing that I did not know before today. In the future, I will not wear purfume, use clorox wipes or eat ANY nuts on my next flight.

For the people with dog allergies. What do you do about your allergies on the plane? Do you call ahead and ask if there is any pets on that flight? I will admit...I have carry my yorkie with me onto the plane. Would this be a problem for you?

One of my LO's has a life threading allergy to dogs and cats. However we always call and make arrangements with the airlines. As long as we are not in the same airflow as a dog he is fine. Depending on the type of airplane there are a certain number of rows that share recerculated air - it's not recirculated through the whole plane it's in zones. So I would think as long as those with serious allergies are making the airline aware or are asking and you have informed the airline of your animal, then your animal shouldn't be an issue. (as long as you are not taking him out of your seat area which I don't think you can do unless it is a service animal)

 

[honugirl]

In some ways y'all crack me up and in other ways, it's really sad. Yes, your allergy can kill you, so can a million other things. After my next surgery if your kid gives me their flu or cold or simple diarrhea, I can die or end up in the hospital very sick and like you guys, it can happen very fast, so fast I may not make it to the ground (seriously, if I vomit twice it's a trip to the ER). That's why I carry emergency medication with me. So I'll promise not to eat ANYTHING, I'll wrap my dog in plastic wrap so his dander doesn't get all over you, I'll wipe my seat down with plain old water and I'll try not to touch anyone as long as y'all promise not to fly or stand next to me in line when you're ill. Deal?

 

[Disneyadore]

I honestly had never thought that my cleaning t(o keep my child safe) would be a problem for any one. I will keep this in mind next time. Is there any Handi wipe products that are safe to use?

We use those old fashion Eau De Cologne- 4711 wipes. Not that we have a problem with peanuts but just for cleaning our hands and refreshing face,neck and arms. They smell nice and clean great. I think they contain alcohol but I'm not sure. This product is almost 300 years old and I think his fame has also reached the US.

http://www.victoriahealth.com/product/4711-Eau-De-Cologne-Tissue-Wipes/6414/0/

 

[Mouse House Mama]

In some ways y'all crack me up and in other ways, it's really sad. Yes, your allergy can kill you, so can a million other things. After my next surgery if your kid gives me their flu or cold or simple diarrhea, I can die or end up in the hospital very sick and like you guys, it can happen very fast, so fast I may not make it to the ground (seriously, if I vomit twice it's a trip to the ER). That's why I carry emergency medication with me. So I'll promise not to eat ANYTHING, I'll wrap my dog in plastic wrap so his dander doesn't get all over you, I'll wipe my seat down with plain old water and I'll try not to touch anyone as long as y'all promise not to fly or stand next to me in line when you're ill. Deal?

This is really uncalled for. This thread has been a conversation and has shared information. There is no need to be snarky. However, if you are actually interested in joining then I will tell you the same thing that many of us have said. If your risks are too great then perhaps flying isn't for you.

 

[syudelson]

I thought clorox wipes were actually one of the safer wipes to use because they don't actually contain bleach and several of the active ingredients that they have are what they use in hospitals, which you would think use what fewest people are reactive to?? What about wet ones antibacterial wipes? My daughter has a peanut allergy too, but has never had a contact only reaction, so I usually just wipe her down with one of those before she eats.

 

[livndisney]

I thought clorox wipes were actually one of the safer wipes to use because they don't actually contain bleach and several of the active ingredients that they have are what they use in hospitals, which you would think use what fewest people are reactive to?? What about wet ones antibacterial wipes? My daughter has a peanut allergy too, but has never had a contact only reaction, so I usually just wipe her down with one of those before she eats.

I think alot of hospital and Dr offices are using the anti bac wipes.

Quite honestly I never understood why Clorox wipes were used on trays and tables when it says this on the website-

"For surfaces that may come in contact with food, a potable water rinse is required. Not for cleaning or sanitizing skin. Do not use as diaper wipe or for personal cleansing."


(The last disclaimer.... , I don't think anyone ever REALLY thought about using a clorox wipe as a diaper wipe LOL)

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

I thought clorox wipes were actually one of the safer wipes to use because they don't actually contain bleach and several of the active ingredients that they have are what they use in hospitals, which you would think use what fewest people are reactive to?? What about wet ones antibacterial wipes? My daughter has a peanut allergy too, but has never had a contact only reaction, so I usually just wipe her down with one of those before she eats.

I think alot of hospital and Dr offices are using the anti bac wipes.

I think I know what you are talking about, I saw them in Wegmans, those are ok?
We're not even flying this year we are actually driving, but I still wipe down eating areas @ WDW.