OT. Aspergers Syndrome

Belle1997

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I do not know where to post this. And since I learned about this disorder on the vmk forum I thought I should post this here. I was reading a post about asperger vmk room and wondered what is was. So I looked it up on line. Well thanks to you I think I have finally figured out what my 23 year old step sons problem is. He has all the symptons of an adult with aspergers. I always thought it was because he has physical disbabilities and a unstable childhood. But now I realize that it is a bigger picture and that he we will not just grow up. My DH also seems to have this as well but has learned to cope and be successful. My son has just gone through another term at college and managed to pass the majors in his cooking course but failed all the minors. He has an extremely high IQ but will never come to us for help. Though we ask him everyday how it is going. Now I understand a lot. But am at a loss of where we go from here. I need to get him help but I am unsure where to go in Canada. So I am really posting hoping someone who has this as an adult or who has a teenager with this I can talk to and get focused in the right direction. Right now I am fighting to keep him in at least the cooking classes at college and deal with the acedemics later. For I know that a full course load for him is too much. I also feel bad that I knew that things were not right with him and always listen to my DH that he was just like him. Since my DH is a good provider and we have a very good relationship I always put it to he will grow out of it like his dad says. But my DS seems to have a more severe form than his father so I know he will not grow out of this but I know he can learn to cope. But It is so hard realizing that the road ahead now seems a lot longer and harder. I have no clue how to get him help in Canada.

But I am so thankful to Pokeaman who shared he had this for this tweaked my curiousity and now I really know he has a type of autistic disorder. And is not just an anti-social intervert. He has no friends and I have never been able to understand this but now I am beginning. Sorry for the ramble. Just loooking for some advice and encouragement. Thanks.
 
Belle, thanks for this post. I also had no idea what this was, thanks to Master and Marcm posts, I also checked into it further. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family to find some assistance in Canada to help your Step Son out.
 
My thoughts and prayers are with you and although I have no idea about this syndrome, just wanted to say you might get more help speaking to a doctor or doing an internet search for help in Canada. I hope everything works out well for you and your family :grouphug:
 
:grouphug: and lots of pixie dust coming your way Belle :wizard: ~***~***~**~***~**~*****~****~**~**~*****~

The power of the DIS is amazing!
 

I have a nephew with AS, now a teen. The early years were very difficult, but luckily he got the help he needed. Things are better now, but there are still a lot of issues to deal with. I agree you should start by talking to your family doctor (alone) for help on where to go from here. There are lots of books and internet sites available. Good luck. You are right BTW, fathers/sons can have this disorder together, as we suspect is the case in our situation.
 
http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/suppCAN.html

I think this should move you in the right direction.
Hope this helps.

Also I hope more of our forum members did a little research on Aspergers as we do have a few posters here with it and remember to be tolerant of their posting habits. ;) I know I have to remind myself from time to time.

Thanks MarcM and Pokemon_Master they both shared this with me sometime ago but I did not feel it was my place to out either one of them...but glad they decided to share that fact with the board and that may have sparked a flame and Belle's stepson may get the help he so needs.

For More info on Aspergers:

US - http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Aspergers

UK - http://www.autism.org.uk/


Mal
 
Thank you for talking about AS on the boards belle! It's important that people know about AS!

I don't know anywhere you could go in Canada to talk about AS; I suggest you see your nearest psychariatrist. There are websites about AS, which you can find from Wikipedia, if not google.

Hope you and your family are OK with AS, and spread the word!
 
I just wanted to thank everyone for there support and links to web site which I did go to. What I am finding really frustrating is that he is 23 and getting him help is really hard. I am not getting far in this area because he is not a kid. I have no idea what to do with him now if I can not get the decision reversed on allowing at least to take part time courses. He is not motivated to work and not fully understanding the disorder I am not sure if I am making it worst or better. But sitting on his computer all day is definately not the right one. But he seems unable to get a job. I am sure having missing fingers is part of the discrimination he faces. I just am not getting anywhere on what supports is out there for adults with aspergers. We are making an appointment with his family doctor so hopefully we will get some direction. Thank you for you kind posts.
 
:wizard: Faith,trust,and lots of pixie dust coming your way Belle :wizard:
 
I think it is awesome that Belle has posted as well as master and marcm also. It will open many eyes to Autism and hopefully to other disorders. As the mom of a disabled child my best advice is to do your research and learn all you can. This enables you to get ahead of the game a little bit and to know what your child needs instead of waiting for a doctor to figure it out, which can take years. You will find all kinds of information out there and the phrase, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is, will be very true as there are people out there just trying to make a buck with a "cure" at the expense of kids and families lives.
My other saving grace is to get involved with other families for support and encouragment. This will help surround you with others who know what you are going thru, and they will be able to help you down the path of treatment and success, hopefully saving you alot of wasted time.
My son has a rare metabolic disorder and Epilepsy. He has some autistic tendency's but has never been diagnosed autistic. He just turned 13 and I do find the older he gets the harder it is to get help. He gets help thru the school district as well as thru a county regional center program which helps, but I hear all the time it is harder for adults to get the help the need and deserve.
Good luck to you. Keep us posted on your progress. You never know who else you may help along the way.
 
My son who is now 17 has AS- believe me it can be a rollercoaster when you don't know what it is.

Mal listed the links I was going to give you. Barb Kirby is great and has a book out that actually has some stories I submitted about my son (not identified but it is us lol). Barb has an online support group link called OASIS- which was a big help for us when we were first discovering Aspergers and the spectrum of autism

Another great person for reference is Tony Attwood- he has more than one book out that are excellent resources and easy to read too

The Autism Society, which is international, will probably have some "local" chapters- the one in my town is great and even holds a camp each summer (just over night but it is a great opportunity for parents and the campers)

You are probably very correct in identifying that you husband has it too- it tends to be genetic- I see traits in myself (I can get a little obsessive about things I'm interested in) and my husband does as well- but no where near the extent that my son did. When he was younger it was very hard- I knew my child was "different" the day he was born- doctors said I was just an over anxious new mom- but I could tell. As he got a little older and entered toddlerhood- he had trouble in day cares- and actually was expelled from 5 day cares. Was suspended from Kindergarten countless times before getting diagnosed with "ADD but different" by a well meaning psychiatrist who really did work wonders with him but who wasn't up on the "new" diagnosis- you will find that some of the "older" doctors may not be as aware of the disorders as some of the newer docs are- but with the increase of the diagnosis (sometimes too much) it is becoming more known. We found out about Asperger's Syndrom from my son's school when he was in 2nd grade- the assistant principal called and asked me to come to the school early to read something- when I read the article she was given by another parent of a student who was joining the school and who had the disorder- I cried- someone had snuck into my son's life and recorded all this information about him- it was all right there.

Funny thing when he was 6 he saw a pediatric neurologist as part of his other psych work up and she said she thought he might be mildly autistic- I'm a nurse and the only experience I had with autism was of the nonverbal- self abusive people or the "Rain Men" of the world. SO we just ignored what she had said and kept trying to fit him into ADD/ADHD- which didn't work.

HE probably had it the toughest when he was in 5th grade- this was the time when he became all too aware of himself being so different from the others and him thinking there was no way to be like the others- he was suicidal and also had trichotillomania (compulsive hair pulling) and had pulled all the hair from his head, eyelashes and eyebrows. He went away to a school near my inlaws that was for boys just like him- but their teaching methods left a lot to be desired and he was really learning worse behaviors being around a bunch of kids who all had behavior and social problems. So he came back home and it took the public school system (he had been in private school before) a month and half to "place" him in a school- he did have an aide at that time and he took her to middle school-

By 7th grade he quit taking all of his medicines and didn't tell us (he had been throwing them away) until about 6 months after we were commenting on how much better he was doing. By 8th grade the change in him was so dramatic that the teachers all gave glowing tributes too him and he even still gets letters from many of his past teachers commenting on things he has taught them.

He will graduate from high school this year- and although things have not been perfect- they haven't been bad- he has a 2.95 gpa although he probably has a 150+ IQ - he does absolutely NO homework and never studies for a test- so those grades are minimal effort. So things have come a circle for us and things we never dreamed he'd accomplish in the past we know he has just as much a chance as any other average kid.

He works each summer now as a counselor at the Autism camp he used to attend - and the past three years has been actively training the new counselors who work the camp too.

Asperger's is a very interesting disorder- some say Thomas Edison, Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein all had the disorder- and there is strong suspician that Bill Gates does have it as well- I do know his kid has an autism spectrum disorder so it is a strong likelihood. I know many have met Aspie's here on the boards and others like it- (you just may not be aware) and still many more have seen the kids on Jay Leno or other shows - you know those little kids that go on the show and are very pedantic and can list tremendous amounts of information to people- those are all Aspies- or at least fall somewhere in the PDD spectrum-

Although almost all Aspies have some similarities- it is very important to remember that there are different presentations of the disorder from person to person- so it sometimes is difficult to diagnose especially those with the milder forms- but in general- they are usually greater than average in intelligence (this doesn't mean straight a's), often have some abilities beyond average (read early, musical abilities, mechanical abilities, etc), frequently have poor handwriting, poor to non-existent social skills, different form of imaginative play (tend to recreate things they have already seen in person, on tv, in books etc and do not develop new situations themselve), to to have strict literal interpretation of things around them and although rules may not always "apply" to them- they hold those in their surroundings to much higher standards, an obsession of some sort is classic (my son went through many he did trains, Nintendo, rocks, pokemon, and more although computers and music are his two steady almost always present obsessions) and these obsessions rule their life- they will often talk of nothing else but these- and for those around them if they learn to use that to an advantage they can greatly improve quality of life for the individual... I'm sure I am missing some things- but in general that is what it is like.

You can't tell an Aspie by looking at them from a distance- and you may not even realize it the first few times you talk to them- some have become great at mimicing others that it takes a good observer a while before they realize that something is a little different. But because of the higher intelligence and usually the strong natural focus on trying to figure other people out- Aspie's usually figure out they are different pretty soon- and it makes dealing with some of the problems easier and makes others more difficult.

One person with Asperger's described themselves as being like an anthropologist from Mars- that has come to Earth to try to figure out the Human Race but has no clue what makes them tick...

Okay- I think I may have rambled on more than needed here- but really feel free to ask any questions- just know that I am leaving for Florida tomorrow and will have variable internet access but will get back to you any time.
 
I was directed to this thread by another VMKer, and I see all the advice I was going to give!

Barb Kirby's site is THE best, bar none, for information and support. The OASIS group was my lifeline in the months following my son's diagnosis at age 5. There are teen and adult boards on the OASIS site. One person in particular, AnchovyEater, sticks out in my mind. She has Asperger's and is the most knowledgable and helpful person about Asperger's. I'd love to meet this woman and thank her for all the help she gave when I was going through the maze of testing for my son.

Tony Attwood's "Asperger Syndrome" book is also a huge help. I have two copies, and one is almost always loaned out to those dealing with my son. One of my sisters has been holding on to it for a while-her son seems to have some shadow traits.

Here on the DIS, there are abour a dozen parents of Aspies (though none that I recall as having adult children) on the DISabilities board.

Hang in there, it does get easier as time goes on!

Suzanne
 
Thank you for posting I will go check out this web site. Oasis. I need to get as much information to help him. Now we know he has this problem we need some ideas that may help him. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.
 
I am so happy that so many have shared their thoughts and expierences in this thread...I hope you can find the help you son needs very soon.


Mal
 





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