Opinons- neighbor leaving their balcony door open all night

[wdwlover25]

On our DCL cruise to Alaska last summer, our neighbors were a teenage boys choir from I don't know where. The boys were out on the balcony at various times practicing. The singing was not in English and very loud. My DH couldn't help but peer around the wall and reserve himself a
front row seat!

 

[Greysword]

Having considered your ideas, I think its mostly that people are less concerned about their noise level and how it impacts others.

I agree with you on your overall point, and I think it is all three factors. Society, as a whole, is definitely shifting, and the ideals placed by the "Greatest generation" have not full transferred to the baby boomers, and by extension to the Gen X, Gen Y and Millennials.

Adding to this is the reduction in quality of many products, including our beloved DVC, in an effort to save money. Complaints on BLT quality, the thickness of the walls/floors, and the OKW refurb with less sound absorbent materials are all example.

Finally, our perceptions shift as we age. As a child, I could sleep through a hurricane, while now I get awoken by the noise of a hotel AC (or the light from the clock face).

I think it is all three factors, and I agree with everyone that I try to adjust my behavior based on how I feel a reasonable person would respond.

Did I go out and say to them "we like to sleep with the door open and you're sounds of fornicating are keeping us up!"

This is high quality tag material if I ever saw it! It won't be a tag, but it should be!

 

[AmyB2006]

Janis, you're dead on, on every point! Your upbringing/experiences mirror mine and I also raised my son the way my parents raised me.

This thread is reflective of how much society has changed.

Agree as well with Janis and you.

I love how words get twisted though. I say that once 10 to 11:00pm rolls around people should be respectful of that watch their noise levels and I'm accused of expecting Disney to "shut down" everywhere at 10 pm. Right.

Allow me to clarify... not that anyone cares, as is evident people will do what they want when they want. However, what I am trying to say is that with regards to being in your room/villa, it would be nice if people respected others around them and were aware of their noise levels once 10 to 11 pm rolls around. I do not expect Disney to shut down everything at 10 o'clock.

NOT that any of this has to do with the original poster since this woman was trying to sleep with her door open and was rude by yelling at her. Like pp said, there are plenty of other areas to be alive and bubbly late into the evening. Have at it. To be honest, I will probably be there as well. We are rarely going to bed early, but when we get back to our room around midnight, we are quiet and aware that others are or could be sleeping around us and that the walls are thin.

But I guess that makes me rude.

 

[AmyB2006]

This kind of reminds me of something that happened on our last cruise. On the ship, sometimes we leave the door open as we like to hear the ocean etc when we sleep yadda, yadda, yadda.
One night the couple next to us (who I know had kids cause we certainly heard them enough on the trip) were out on their balcony on the chair...having sex.
Did I go out and say to them "we like to sleep with the door open and you're sounds of fornicating are keeping us up!" LOL. NO! And let me just say, it was before 11pm....

First of all, the way I look at it, it would embarass them and me. (although I kind of wanted to do it just to see the look on their faces). Secondly, I figure, as in the words used in Dirty Dancing "this is your dance space, this is my dance space" What you do on your balcony is your business. Sure, if it was 2am and you guys were throwing a balcony party, maybe then, try to keep it down. A man and a woman enjoying the night air and some cheerful conversation? No freaking way.
What she should have done is just close her door. There was no reason for her to be nasty. So, one night they go without leaving the door open! There are more important things in this world.
If your voices were not raised constantly, I see no reason at all to apologize or keep your voice down. These people are the type who think everything revolves around them and the entire resort should be quiet because they're sleeping...
Unfortunately for them, I'm sure they'll never realize the world, and also The World, does not revolve around them.

Just curious what ship you were on, because every cruise ship I've ever been on, the balcony door is usually heavy and has a tension rod on it. They're difficult to prop open much less just leave open.

 

[Dean]

2 sides of course but it's 100% unreasonable to cater to people because they want to keep their balcony door open. IMO, until they close the door, nothing else matters and they have NOTHING to say that would be reasonable or appropriate, they are 100% in the wrong as long as the balcony door is open. That's true at 10, 12 or 3 AM.

 

[LSchrow]

These people are the type who think everything revolves around them and the entire resort should be quiet because they're sleeping...
Unfortunately for them, I'm sure they'll never realize the world, and also The World, does not revolve around them.

definitely not in reference to OP but (devil's advocate again), it works both ways. i doubt you will find many ppl who will actually admit to believing "the world revolves around them", but these same people can easily be both the one being awakened by noise, or the ones making the noise.
as considerate as we try to be, i will readily admit that we are human , and occasionally get wrapped up in a moment - i can't count how many times we've been awakened at night, hit by strollers, had the person in front of us leave their hat on during a show, been bumped into, etc.
the reverse side of the coin: i know i've accidentally bumped into people (no, i don't yell at them for stopping short - if i was paying attention, i would've stopped ), unintentionally walked through someone's photo, stopped suddenly, spoken or laughed too loudly for the time/place. i don't think i'm self-involved, but sometimes we lose sight of our surroundings/time.

This post is a good reminder to me to respect differences. I could be either of the two parties in this incident. ....Balancing your own right to enjoy your stay the way you like against someone else's right to do the same in a totally different way is bound to sometimes cause conflict.

starshine (now that i have that song stuck in my head ) please understand that i wasn't implying you were yelling, or that you would not have apologized, given the opportunity
instead of just readily agreeing because everyone else is (as will often happen on message boards), looking at both sides of a coin sometimes helps to put in things in perspective.
hope your vacation was fantastic!

 

[Starshine]

starshine (now that i have that song stuck in my head ) please understand that i wasn't implying you were yelling, or that you would not have apologized, given the opportunity
instead of just readily agreeing because everyone else is (as will often happen on message boards), looking at both sides of a coin sometimes helps to put in things in perspective.
hope your vacation was fantastic!

No worries, I know you weren't! I just wanted to be honest and mention that yep, we could have been louder than we thought. And yes, we did have a wonderful trip. Of course now the running joke everytime we stay at BWV will be "keep it down we're trying to sleep with the balcony door open!"

 

[dianeschlicht]

I have been visiting WDW since I was 16 yo, I am now 54. I travelled a lot with my parents and when in a hotel room we were always reminded when we became too loud - please think of those around you. It was drilled into our heads. I brought my son up the same way. I am in a villa and I can hear people running around upstairs - they are not thinking about the people around them. They could care less about the people around them, it's all about them. People are always saying how Disney is going downhill - i't's not Disney - it's the people visiting that are going downhill.

If I was on my balcony and someone accused me of being too loud - I would have told them I am sorry and didn't realize we were disturbing you. Very simple. Would I have moved?? No - but I would have tried to be a little quieter. It's all about respecting others. Call me old fashioned.

Janis

I could have written this! It is the constant theme of what we talk about with each other on every trip! Everyone seems so entitled these days. Gone is the idea that your freedom only extends to the point where it interferes with someone else's freedom.

 

[Lorelei528]

definitely not in reference to OP but (devil's advocate again), it works both ways. i doubt you will find many ppl who will actually admit to believing "the world revolves around them", but these same people can easily be both the one being awakened by noise, or the ones making the noise.
as considerate as we try to be, i will readily admit that we are human , and occasionally get wrapped up in a moment - i can't count how many times we've been awakened at night, hit by strollers, had the person in front of us leave their hat on during a show, been bumped into, etc.
the reverse side of the coin: i know i've accidentally bumped into people (no, i don't yell at them for stopping short - if i was paying attention, i would've stopped ), unintentionally walked through someone's photo, stopped suddenly, spoken or laughed too loudly for the time/place. i don't think i'm self-involved, but sometimes we lose sight of our surroundings/time.

Ummm...I said this because the woman was so nasty and rude to the OP. I think you misunderstood what I said. Obviously bumping into someone by accident or walking into someone's photo or any of the other things you listed, are totally different things. LOL Again, the person who came out and yelled at OP was rude and nasty, that is why I made the comment that I did.

 

[Lorelei528]

Just curious what ship you were on, because every cruise ship I've ever been on, the balcony door is usually heavy and has a tension rod on it. They're difficult to prop open much less just leave open.

We left it open on the Wonder and the Fantasy. No need to prop at all.

 

[AmyB2006]

We left it open on the Wonder and the Fantasy. No need to prop at all.

Wow! I'm really surprised. This makes me want to reconsider getting a balcony room now with my two littles. I always figured the door was so heavy it wouldn't be an issue of them getting out there on their own, but hearing this definitely makes me rethink that.

DCL just sent us an email about "discounted" cruises in November out of Miami and I was thinking of doing the balcony. :/

 

[Lorelei528]

Wow! I'm really surprised. This makes me want to reconsider getting a balcony room now with my two littles. I always figured the door was so heavy it wouldn't be an issue of them getting out there on their own, but hearing this definitely makes me rethink that.

DCL just sent us an email about "discounted" cruises in November out of Miami and I was thinking of doing the balcony. :/

I don't know how old your little ones are, but you can lock the door. I'm just not sure how high the locking mechanism is off the floor..(again and if your little ones could reach it)

And yes, the door is pretty heavy....

 

[OrangeCountyCommuter]

She may have been rude, but 11:00 is too late to be "chatting" out on your balcony when you're only feet away. I'm sure you were louder than you think, and her having the door open doesn't help.

Just because she was rude, though, doesn't give you the right to be noisy after 10:00 or 11:00pm. I think, personally, once 10:00 pm rolls around, it's time to be quiet and inside for the evening.

It's not her "home" anymore than it's your "home". You're still in close quarters with others, and everyone should respect that.

As far as leaving the door open? Ick. Bugs, humidity, spiders, palmetto bugs (those who aren't from FL may not be aware of these even).

WOW! I guess Disney will have to quit those late night fireworks that happen after 10 PM

 

[Sammie]

I think the one very specific thing in this is they had their balcony door open.

To me that means you don't care what noise or for that matter what bugs, etc come into your room.

It has nothing to do with being quiet in the hall or even conversational voices on the balconies.

If you are in bed and you don't want to hear outside noises close the door.

 

[AmyB2006]

WOW! I guess Disney will have to quit those late night fireworks that happen after 10 PM

Again, I never said Disney as a whole has to shut down. Sorry if that's the way it comes across.

Yet again, I will clarify my post, for at least the 4th time. With regards to being in your room/villa, I think 10 to 11:00 is time to quiet down. Simply out of respect and courtesy for others next to you.

So I'm not sure if you read the entire thread and felt like stirring the pot some more or what, but nowhere did I say that Disney World as a whole should shut down at 10 o'clock.

It has become evidently clear to me, on this thread at least, of the sense of entitlement and levels of "me me me" that people expect and display on a daily basis. Saying that you should try to be courteous of people in a room next to you after a certain hour has been labled as "rude" and has been at several times. Not a surprise though, as I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis.

 

[BestDadEver]

Wow! I'm really surprised. This makes me want to reconsider getting a balcony room now with my two littles. I always figured the door was so heavy it wouldn't be an issue of them getting out there on their own, but hearing this definitely makes me rethink that.

DCL just sent us an email about "discounted" cruises in November out of Miami and I was thinking of doing the balcony. :/

The balcony door has quite a high lock on the cruise it's provably 5' high . At AKV the lock was lower but it had a difficult for kids lock IMO . It was kind of a bolt that came from the top . It felt sage to me .

I think with the being quite thing you right . But the problem about this is . one the door was open, so obviously they didn't care too much about the noise , two they weren't being loud

 

[AmyB2006]

The balcony door has quite a high lock on the cruise it's provably 5' high . At AKV the lock was lower but it had a difficult for kids lock IMO . It was kind of a bolt that came from the top . It felt sage to me .

I think with the being quite thing you right . But the problem about this is . one the door was open, so obviously they didn't care too much about the noise , two they weren't being loud

Oh ok. I've had a balcony on Carnival and Royal and they were both normal lock level. I'm just over paranoid about that I guess. LOL I always think "just in case".

I agree when you have your door open you kind of have to be willing to tolerate whatever noise you might hear. Maybe that was the first time she had to deal with someone being on the next balcony over while they slept with the door open. Who knows.

 

[smidgy]

I think, personally, once 10:00 pm rolls around, it's time to be quiet and inside for the evening.
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here is the phrase you used that other posters have a problem with... the insidepart.

who wants to pay to stay at a resort with a balcony and not be able to use it when you get back from the parks? or even, at BW, back from Jelly rolls? I agree with keeping it down both late at night and early in the morning. but having to stay inside? no way.

even most of the pools on disney property don't close. they just don't have lifeguards. you are allowed to use the pools all night. just be quiet. the signs at the pools at the value resorts and the "quiet" pools at the moderate resorts state that after 10pm (I believe that's the time) you should be quiet at the pools. (not that you have to go inside).
and by quiet, they mean no screaming, etc, not normal conversation.

 

[buzz5985]

I could have written this! It is the constant theme of what we talk about with each other on every trip! Everyone seems so entitled these days. Gone is the idea that your freedom only extends to the point where it interferes with someone else's freedom.

DH and I too. Whenever I see a post about WDW going down hill - I will always thing to myself, its not Disney - it's the people going to Disney that are going downhill.

And when you see a thread like this - it's only half of the story through their eyes.

Janis

 

[BestDadEver]

DH and I too. Whenever I see a post about WDW going down hill - I will always thing to myself, its not Disney - it's the people going to Disney that are going downhill.

And when you see a thread like this - it's only half of the story through their eyes.

Janis

I don't get the impression that this story is being exaggerated . I also put the person that left the door open in the catagory as one of those self entitled people . Just for the shear fact they left the door open .

I agree people ruin things when they are only thinking of themselfs when among masses .