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The numbers that can't ride those rides, or any other at Disney, are small. Very small. If this one is more restrictive than any ride Disney has done thus far it should be noted in some way. It's a change from their norm. Universal can do it and they have way more than Disney does. So Disney can note it too. If it comes out to be a problem. If it's not more restrictive than existing rides, it's not an issue.

Fair enough, if it does significantly affect more people than I can see the valid argument. There's still time though and it's reasonable to think that if Disney sees a problem or hears a lot of complaints during this testing/preview, maybe they'll add a sign or, less likely, a disclaimer on the website
 
So then aren't we arguing the same thing? Not every ride is accessible to all people. And Disney doesn't have ANY disclaimers about restrictions on other rides. They have height requirements for safety, sure, but they don't tell you that you might be too big to ride a specific ride. My whole point is, why are people expecting any different on THIS ride?

I mean it is a discussion board so I think we are allowed to discuss it here and discuss if there is any need for Disney to give warning or whatever. Everything is hypothetical right now but I see no wrong in discussing it here. It isn't like anyone is emailing Disney and threatening to cancel vacations over this right now. This is very new to everyone even Disney because this is the first ride at a park with tiered FP+ that is being said might cause a range of guests issues. SO yeah I think at this moment we are all okay discussing it.
 
Are people upset that body size requirements are not listed on Disney's website for this particular ride? Because as far as I know, it's not listed for any ride. That would require them to put in different acceptable body sizes for each ride which isn't likely to happen. So maybe 10% of people won't be able to ride. I love Disney World, but I don't expect them to care about me and cater to what I feel I am entitled to get from them. Maybe i'm missing the point, I just think people need to be realistic. The ride isn't even open to general public yet!
Honestly I don't think the concerns people are having stem from feeling like they are entitled to get something from Disney. That's a bit negative thoughtprocess to have towards people's concerns really.

My husband is a bean pole thin guy.....but he's 6ft 5.5inches. So yeah while not being on the larger size isn't a concern the height is one. That doesn't make him entitled to want to know if he would be ok with riding it comfortably with his long legs. I know for sure we'll be testing out that test seat. But TBH a warning would be the best thing to have along with a test seat if indeed this ride becomes significantly more restrictive (height, weight, body shape, etc) than any other WDW ride.
 
Honestly I don't think the concerns people are having stem from feeling like they are entitled to get something from Disney. That's a bit negative thoughtprocess to have towards people's concerns really.

My husband is a bean pole thin guy.....but he's 6ft 5.5inches. So yeah while not being on the larger size isn't a concern the height is one. That doesn't make him entitled to want to know if he would be ok with riding it comfortably with his long legs. I know for sure we'll be testing out that test seat. But TBH a warning would be the best thing to have along with a test seat if indeed this ride becomes significantly more restrictive (height, weight, body shape, etc) than any other WDW ride.

I never said anyone else felt entitled, I was strictly speaking about me. I'm a taller person myself, and your husband would be a perfect example of what I'm referring to regarding other rides at Disney. Nowhere does it say that tall people could be very uncomfortable or even not be able to ride a specific ride. So my point was, why expect different on this ride. However, I am conceding that if it's THAT much more restrictive than the other rides, it's probably a good idea for there to be a warning. I just wouldn't hold my breath for one
 

So then aren't we arguing the same thing? Not every ride is accessible to all people. And Disney doesn't have ANY disclaimers about restrictions on other rides. They have height requirements for safety, sure, but they don't tell you that you might be too big to ride a specific ride. My whole point is, why are people expecting any different on THIS ride?
Yep, I was agreeing with you :)
 
I never said anyone else felt entitled, I was strictly speaking about me. I'm a taller person myself, and your husband would be a perfect example of what I'm referring to regarding other rides at Disney. Nowhere does it say that tall people could be very uncomfortable or even not be able to ride a specific ride. So my point was, why expect different on this ride. However, I am conceding that if it's THAT much more restrictive than the other rides, it's probably a good idea for there to be a warning. I just wouldn't hold my breath for one

But if there were a ride that a tall person got all the way to the vehicle and was then told ... you are too tall, you can't ride, your head won't fit, that would be upsetting. It will all shake out in time as it becomes more clear but right now .... having to choose between two hot ticket FP+ or standing in a long line .... it is not unreasonable to want to know. In long run a seat out front will solve some issues other than the loss of a FP+.
 
I never said anyone else felt entitled, I was strictly speaking about me.
Well it didn't really sound like that. It came off that people who were wanting Disney to have a disclaimer shouldn't feel like they are entitled to one.

I'm a taller person myself, and your husband would be a perfect example of what I'm referring to regarding other rides at Disney. Nowhere does it say that tall people could be very uncomfortable or even not be able to ride a specific ride. So my point was, why expect different on this ride.
Yeah....except this ride has restraints that are a LOT different than any ride at WDW. The way you are sitting, the way the back and leg restraints come up...is there another ride WDW has with the same seating set up? Many rides at WDW basically sit the same way in a natural sitting position. My husband already knows that some things are going to be momentarily uncomfortable so he will try and angle his legs a bit...that will not be possible in this ride with the restraints it has.

However, I am conceding that if it's THAT much more restrictive than the other rides, it's probably a good idea for there to be a warning.
Glad you are conceding that because with all due respect earlier it didn't seem like you understood why this ride was becoming such a concern.

I just wouldn't hold my breath for one
Yeah see I don't think people are doing that but again that comes off like you think people are entitled just because they would idealy like Disney to alert them. It's not unreasonable nor unheard of to have a warning. Like AngiTN mentioned Universal does it and other parks as well.

Anywho moving on.
 
yeah, there's a difference between "uncomfortable to ride" and "can't ride"
I'm sure tall people have a heck of a hard time fitting into IASW but they are welcome to go on it if they wish.
But if you are too tall/heavy to ride fro safety restrictions then there should be a warning
 
Are people upset that body size requirements are not listed on Disney's website for this particular ride? Because as far as I know, it's not listed for any ride. That would require them to put in different acceptable body sizes for each ride which isn't likely to happen. So maybe 10% of people won't be able to ride. I love Disney World, but I don't expect them to care about me and cater to what I feel I am entitled to get from them. Maybe i'm missing the point, I just think people need to be realistic. The ride isn't even open to general public yet!

Disneyworld should care about you, you are paying for a product, and they should do the best to meet your expectations. If there is a maximum height maybe they could post it. Universal Studios posts a maximum height for some rides.
 
yeah, there's a difference between "uncomfortable to ride" and "can't ride"
I'm sure tall people have a heck of a hard time fitting into IASW but they are welcome to go on it if they wish.
But if you are too tall/heavy to ride fro safety restrictions then there should be a warning
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
 
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
Who does and doesn't fit on rides differs so greatly from person to person. You can have 10 people that all weigh the same or are the same height. Some can ride, some maybe not. At least that has been my experience at other parks with thrill rides. Even with similar body shapes it all varies greatly. I think that's why many parks just give that disclaimer of guests "of a certain size" or taller than... may not be able to ride. Hopefully the hype here is blown out of proportion, similar to 7dmt. Many were uncomfortable but could still close the restraints. I think it is an important topic as so many Americans are now leaning towards being on the larger side. Hopefully a test seat will be put put to solve the mystery.
I still love Disney for being so inclusive overall.
 
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
they can't really be specific, more general like the one Universal has. That way people will know what to expect before they book fp.
I find it hard to believe that they created this attraction and did not know some body types would not be able to ride. But, I guess at least they have the CM previews to figure it out now.
 
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
I agree that they may be figuring it all out still but I do wonder what testing they were doing prior to these previews. They may have known there might be a possible restriction but wanted more test subjects (that sounds weird to say that) to get a better idea. I find it hard to believe that with the type of restraints they have that they didn't anticipate it or that they didn't have some sort of inkling that it was more restrictive than vast majority of their rides if not the most restrictive. Obviously I'm speculating here so I could be wrong.

A broad warning like "This ride employs safety restraints which may not accommodate certain people due to their body shape or size." which is the warning for Escape from Gringotts would work for now. This is a ride we haven't ridden yet since it wasn't opened last time we were there but I have heard complaints from folks not being able to fit both height and weight/body weight distribution.

Once they get the test seat out they could then add "A test seat is available in the front of the attraction entrance to assist guests in ensuring their ability to ride." which is also the description from Escape from Gringotts.

If they felt the need to (which they don't have to to me if they've got the test seat it just provides a more detailed description) to explain exactly how the body should fit into the restraint/seat. This is also from Escape from Gringotts "When seated, one natural full leg must fit under the shin guard and the other leg (natural or prosthetic) must, at minimum, terminate below the knee."

I will admit though I have no idea if Escape from Gringotts had the full warnings, which I didn't completely paste in but are available via Universal's website, before or after their previews/soft openings, etc.
 
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
In reality, that's a touchy subject to use people who are disapproved from riding. Disney disapproves entertainment CMs from long-standing roles and that's the worst out of all of the casting duties.

Disney already has the givens: the width of the area between the two cushioned sidearms, the depth of the seating area, and either the depth or the circumference of the leg restraints. It's all components of the engineering of the seat.

Maybe they are factoring in the percentage of guests who are disapproved and what the Guest Recovery will be. Disney doesn't like to advertise Guest Recovery measures.

I wonder if guests with claustrophobia issues will feel overly confined?
 
Agreed however I think with these previews they are still doing some body shape tests to see exactly what that warning should be.
I agree with you agreeing.
Hopefully the hype here is blown out of proportion
I interacted with every group in line during the last two sessions yesterday, there were all sizes, shapes and ages. While attempting to weasel my way onto FoP, I chatted with the CMs working the entrance, I specifically asked about the size issue and at no time did they tell me that it had been an issue yet.
 
I agree with you agreeing.
I interacted with every group in line during the last two sessions yesterday, there were all sizes, shapes and ages. While attempting to weasel my way onto FoP, I chatted with the CMs working the entrance, I specifically asked about the size issue and at no time did they tell me that it had been an issue yet.
Which does seem to not mesh with the reports that some had to leave and were unable to ride. I am thinking it was not as wide spread as the reports made it sound. A PP mentioned that it could have been multiple reports of 1 person who wasn't able to ride and it just seems like it was many. I'm being cautiously optimistic that it's much ado about nothing
 
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