Official 2014 Disneyland Dumbo Double Dare, Half Marathon, 10k, and 5k Thread!

[Outonarun]

The week before race week: 15 miles? I'll do 14-15 Sunday, then get a couple shorter runs in San Fran (coming from Orlando)
Are you reducing your mileage? No
What workouts are you doing? 3-4 runs per week, no cross trainings
How long is your last long run? 14-15

Race week:
Are you resting the day before your race(s)? Will not run after Thursday 3 mile run

If your finish time will be < 2 hours:
Are you using gel? No

So you do a long run longer than race distance a week before the half. And two rest days before the race. Sub 2:00 and don't take a gel. Do you use sports drink? If so, at about what interval? Thanks for sharing Have a great race!!

 

[Outonarun]

I love the idea of bringing my WDW medal with me, but I am not checking a bag so I want to keep my luggage light, and I am packing three pairs of shoes, which have to take priority

In terms of my training, here goes:

The week before race week: I will be in Northern California visiting friends the week prior, so just a few shorter runs planned, but I do have a race on the Tuesday (I love to hit local races while travelling, and this was a nighttime 4.4 miler, which is a strange distance I couldn't resist)

What workouts are you doing? I have been running 4 days a week, plus one day cycling (approx 40km).

How long is your last long run? I did 28km yesterday (17 miles?) and will probably do 21k next Sunday as my last long one.

Are you resting the day before your race(s)? I have that short race on Tuesday, but probably nothing after that.

Are you using gel? Yep, Clif Mocha (probably just one at 10k); I plan on stopping at all character stops, but would like to finish around 1:50, depending on the weather.

Thanks for the info! Are you training for a marathon? Or do you do longer long runs for half marathon training? I will be doing my only Clif Mocha near 10K, too! And with a similar finish time Any Powerade at all for you? Have a great time with your friends and enjoy your Nor Cal race! And have a blast at the Disneyland Half

 

[Outonarun]

My normal training pattern for the last few months has been 5 miles each on T,W,Th, then long runs on the weekend rotating through 8, 10, and 12 miles. I threw one 14 miler in 2 weeks ago. Last weekend I started back-to-back weekend runs, so the last 4 weekends before the race are 4/8, 5/10, 6/12, 4/8. After the last weekend (8/23 & 8/24) run of 4/8, I will be doing 4 miles on Tues and 3 on Wed. Flying out on Thurs, so that will be it before the races!

My normal half time is 2:20-2:30. I will probably be slower in DL just because I am more interested in having fun then a PR. I typically eat a gel (love the Cliff Razz) at miles 4-5 and 8-9. Sometimes I'll have one before the race. During a few long training runs, I haven't felt the need for a gel and skipped them, so we will see. I will drink the gatorade on course when needed.

I've noticed that I have gotten slower since I stopped going to the gym. The weather has been too nice to not run outside, and I HATE the treadmill! I can't do speed workouts on the road though, so I am planning to force myself to go to the gym once a week, or maybe every other week.

A structured training plan -- check (me, too). The back-to-back training structure looks sound, and smart. Sometimes gel and sometimes not (me, too). Drink on course as needed (me, too)! Hate the treadmill (me, too)!! Going to enjoy the race course (me, too)! Have a great time!!

 

[zanzibar138]

You are a trooper! Talk about determination!! I'm sorry to hear of your physical challenges. You are staying healthy (still active) through it all!! And that is encouraging and good (for this runner) to remember for adjusting to present and future injuries. Taking notes that you do fine with no food or water for runs up to 1:15, but take water in warmer weather. I hope you continue to recover, and have a great time at the races!

I am very stubborn

My physio appointment was quite positive today, so I'm still feeling good about the races. He thinks it's an overuse injury caused by very slight overpronation which is only starting to cause problems now I'm stepping up the distance. We'll be working very closely together over the next couple of weeks to get me through. I still plan to run the whole 10k (not counting photo/character stops of course), but may end up walking most of the 5k.

Sounds like you're getting lots of different ideas about tapering and nutrition. I hope you find something that works well for you

 

[Vistaway]

Does anyone know if the street closures will be the same as last year prior to the race? I ended up staying at the Hilton Garden Inn south of the convention center on Harbor which means I'll have to drive to the garage rather than walking this race. Will I be able to just drive north on Harbor, turn left on Ball, and then turn left again at Disneyland Drive or will Harbor be closed? I'm starting to regret not staying at my normal hotel within walking distance.

Can't you take the ART shuttle that morning? That's my plan (I am staying at the Wyndham, so similar situation). If you're driving, it looks like you might need to enter the Mickey and Friends garage from the north/I-5 side as opposed to off of Harbor.

 

[Outonarun]

I am very stubborn

My physio appointment was quite positive today, so I'm still feeling good about the races. He thinks it's an overuse injury caused by very slight overpronation which is only starting to cause problems now I'm stepping up the distance. We'll be working very closely together over the next couple of weeks to get me through. I still plan to run the whole 10k (not counting photo/character stops of course), but may end up walking most of the 5k.

Sounds like you're getting lots of different ideas about tapering and nutrition. I hope you find something that works well for you

I sure am! Thanks! And so glad to hear your appointment went well!!

 

[Outonarun]

I am not tapering, I am actually racing a 10-miler the weekend before. I will probably run 15-20 miles that week, then we will be touring the parks the week leading up to the DDD. I expected to finish in <2 hours, but we will see how I feel about the character stops. At W&D in 2012, I stopped for almost every shot and finished in 2:11. I thought that was slow too because it was a night race and we'd done the parks that day - I became totally exhausted around the 9 mile mark. But I also didn't need to contend with the sun, so I'm expecting a time somewhere around 2 hours, give or take.

I really dislike gels, but will take either honey stinger chews or sport beans along with me. I will eat one package in 3-4 parts over the course of the race. I will drink mostly water, although I might pick up some sports drink toward the end of the course depending on how hot it is and how much I've been sweating.

I am getting so excited!! I can't believe it's almost here!

Thanks for your info! Another DIS Runner who uses honey stingers and sports beans. And you space out your intake. I think that might work better for me than the one time 'slam down' of the gel pack (... must experiment...) Your comments got me to thinking that, while I would like to try only using sports drink, and no solid food or gel, it might be too much fluid. Thanks for making me ponder the possibility now instead of trying it on a run (and uncomfortably sloshing around) I'm getting excited, too! Have a great run!!

 

[Outonarun]

I'm tapering the week before so my long run the weekend before the race will probably only be around 6-8 miles. I'll probably still do my normal speed work and pace run the Tues & Thurs before the race since they're only 30 minutes. Plus, I have my finaly PT (Physical Therapy) appointment that Wednesday. That might affect how I feel about running Thursday though, lol. I'll need to through in some Yoga that week as well to make sure my IT Band's good and flexible and ready. Maybe a swim too. I'm going to listen to my body and see how it goes.

I'll definitely take it easy Friday and Saturday before the 1/2 on Sunday. Maybe walk around the parks a little but will watch my mileage and try not to go more than 2-3miles.

My time will be >2 hours so I have to use some nutrition. Finally figured out some Hammer products seem to work for me through a lot of trial and error. Due to the heat and humidity right now in Phoenix I'm having to use them for anything over an hour.

Thanks for your reply! Tapering, yoga, swimming, trial and error on finding nutrition that works -- -- 'balance' comes to mind... adding that to my list of important things! Have a fantastic race!!

 

[Pleglech]

Question Runners: How are you tapering?

The week before race week:
Are you reducing your mileage?
Travel kind of forces the issue, which I imagine to be true for a lot of us. When training specifically for a half, I'd normally cut from my normal mileage two weeks out to maybe 50-60% of that in the six days preceding the race. But this time it'll look like I'll be dropping to a little less than half of normal in each of the next two weeks.

What workouts are you doing?
Five to seven runs per week. One VO2 max session, one tempo and a long run. Sometimes a hill workout in there, sometimes not. The rest comfortably easy. Race week will probably skip the tempo, do some shorter repeats at 5k pace maybe five or six days out, some pickups two days out and the 10k the day before.

How long is your last long run?
16 miles, this weekend. Again, dictated by travel. That said, you don't get the full physiological benefit from your longer runs that quickly. Your longest run *should* be about 4 weeks out

Race week:
Are you resting the day before your race(s)? Resting two days before?
Other?
Running the 10k the day before, and running the day before that too. So probably taking a rest day four days out? I generally like to run the day before the race, with a very short burst at race pace, but take off the day before that.

If your finish time will be < 2 hours:
Are you using gel? Sports drink? Both? Neither?
Never. There's just no need. Sometimes I'll take a quick shot of water or gatorade, but only if it's particularly warm.

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[rachlovestv]

For any past DLHM participants who have used the ART: do you have to be staying at that hotel (where the ART stops are) to take advantage of the free pass for Half Marathon Weekend? My hotel has its own non-ART shuttle, but I will need to take the ART to get there on race mornings.

Nope, you don't have to be staying at the hotel where the ART stops!

 

[Vistaway]

Thank you! I am at the Wyndham, but it's a short walk to a hotel that has an ART stop.

 

[sdchickie]

Thank you! I am at the Wyndham, but it's a short walk to a hotel that has an ART stop.

We stayed at the Wyndham two years ago when we did the half and it was a short walk to get to the bus stop. We actually ended up walking to the parks several times because the waits for busses could get long.

 

[Outonarun]

Thanks! And the same to you!


The 10k will be my first race ever so I'm doing a long taper. I finished my last "training" 10k on Sunday at just a tad under 13min/mile in 85 degree temps and high humidity. From here until race day I'll watch my diet, do a lot of walking (5-6 miles/day) perhaps a few 2 or 4 mile easy runs but that's about it. I'm most worried about injury so I just want to maintain without stressing myself physically.


What's a 'gel'? I'll have some water, but that's all. (Not that I fit the criteria you mentioned time wise since I'm just doing the 10k)

Other than training for the distance, I've been working hard not to need "Dumbo's feather" to complete the race. I've run in the sun, dark, rain, heat, snow, early in the day, late at night, with and without: music, pacing app, water, sunglasses, hat, etc. I feel comfortable that whatever race day tosses at me I'll be ready to go. (queue Rocky theme music.....)

Your first race ever?! That is exciting!! I hope you have a fantastic time!

Here is a link to an energy gel overview (I Googled "gel for runners"):
http://running.competitor.com/2014/07/nutrition/everything-you-need-to-know-about-energy-gels_44642

 

[Outonarun]

Other than training for the distance, I've been working hard not to need "Dumbo's feather" to complete the race. I've run in the sun, dark, rain, heat, snow, early in the day, late at night, with and without: music, pacing app, water, sunglasses, hat, etc. I feel comfortable that whatever race day tosses at me I'll be ready to go. (queue Rocky theme music.....)

SgtTibbs! You're prepared for anything that gets thrown your way! That, my friend, is a recipe for success!! Your body is trained, and you've exposed yourself to many out-of-your-control conditions. Your method is being added to my notes... a phrase I have heard before but hadn't yet applied to my running: Expect nothing, prepare for everything. Got it. Thanks a bunch!!

 

[longhorns2]

Did the 10K corrals get posted yet? Apparently rD slipped this one on the site recently.

http://noguiltlife.com/2014/08/disneyland-10k-corrals.html

 

[Kathymford]

Did the 10K corrals get posted yet? Apparently rD slipped this one on the site recently.

http://noguiltlife.com/2014/08/disneyland-10k-corrals.html

It looks pretty legit. I'm not sure why they don't post all of the corrals?

 

[kermit116]

http://noguiltlife.com/2014/08/disneyland-10k-corrals.html

Awesome! Thanks for posting!

If I'm in the second to last corral, how much additional time will that buy for photos? Or, maybe it's better to ask this way - how long is the time between releasing corrals?

How long does it take for each corral to go out? I'm assuming the later corrals take a little longer to empty out than the early ones?

 

[StarGirl11]

It looks pretty legit. I'm not sure why they don't post all of the corrals?

Those are all the corrals for the 10k. 10k only goes to E. Which is why I keep wanting to bang my head against a wall in frustration about the fact they still haven't told everyone in F up for the Dumbo what is going to happen on the 10k.

If we get all shoved in E someone at RunDisney is going to get read the riot act by me. I worked too damn hard to move up corrals after surgery to be shoved in the last corral of a race.

 

[Belle Ella]

Finally printed out my packet today, I'm doing the 10k and I'll be bib #30609. Does anyone know if the street closures will be the same as last year prior to the race? I ended up staying at the Hilton Garden Inn south of the convention center on Harbor which means I'll have to drive to the garage rather than walking this race. Will I be able to just drive north on Harbor, turn left on Ball, and then turn left again at Disneyland Drive or will Harbor be closed? I'm starting to regret not staying at my normal hotel within walking distance. Other than the parking situation I'm so excited for this race I could scream, I've been training hard for the Avengers half so the 10k has turned into a comfortable distance I'm running 2 to 3 times a week in about an hour, this should literally be a nice stroll in the park. 18 days !!!

In response to street closures, they SHOULD be the same, in theory, but nothing is out officially yet that I've been able to find (and that includes through work). I can post the street closures/times as soon as I find out which should be in the next couple of days.

 

[nervous1sttimer]

Those are all the corrals for the 10k. 10k only goes to E. Which is why I keep wanting to bang my head against a wall in frustration about the fact they still haven't told everyone in F up for the Dumbo what is going to happen on the 10k.

If we get all shoved in E someone at RunDisney is going to get read the riot act by me. I worked too damn hard to move up corrals after surgery to be shoved in the last corral of a race.

That is not what is going to happen. Your bib will have two separate corral placements based on your proof of time and correlating pace. For example, I am in B for the 1/2 but expect to be A for the 10K. I don't remember all the matched corrals, but if you look at some stuff from PHM and GSC this year, there will probably be old posts with some of the allocations. I seem to remember seeing B/D bibs (ie B for the 10K and D in the 1/2) but don't want to say 100%.