Official 2012 Princess Half Marathon Thread!

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Right now, I am doing 1:1s for my 2 weekly short runs (2-3 miles) and averaging 11:30-12 min miles. My weekend long run is done "Galloway" style (2 min slower than race pace + more for heat per his recommendation), so are more in the 15mm range. Long runs are done with intervals at 1:30 min run, 1 min walk.

If I am on a treadmill for a short run, I run at 5.3-5.5 and walk at 4-4.2. Treadmill for a long run is thankfully something I haven't yet had to do. :laughing:

Thanks for info! I am at a comfortable 11:00-12:00 min range at this point, but I haven't been run/walking..I've been straight running.

Your pacing is exactly where I want to be right now. I just can't image running so fast as to still do run/walk and be finished a mile in 10 minutes (which is my ultimate goal!)
 
Thanks for info! I am at a comfortable 11:00-12:00 min range at this point, but I haven't been run/walking..I've been straight running.

Your pacing is exactly where I want to be right now. I just can't image running so fast as to still do run/walk and be finished a mile in 10 minutes (which is my ultimate goal!)

How far distance-wise have you gone so far? I find that the run/walking really helps with the distance (especially the 16 mile week!).

There are people in my Galloway training group from 7min miles all the way to 18 min miles. The 10 min group does 3 min run, 1 min walk intervals.
 
Thanks for info! I am at a comfortable 11:00-12:00 min range at this point, but I haven't been run/walking..I've been straight running.

Your pacing is exactly where I want to be right now. I just can't image running so fast as to still do run/walk and be finished a mile in 10 minutes (which is my ultimate goal!)


I'm a straight runner also...and when I first started (around 3 years ago...craziness how time flies) and I was around your pace, maybe a few seconds faster. I never thought my race pace would be a 10 min mile...but now I can proudly say it's 9:20ish (aiming for 9:00 min/mile next half mara!) for a half, and 8:40ish for short races (aiming for 8:30 next short race!) Believe me you'll get there...just keep running those miles!

Finally registered last night! :)

I've been doing the Galloway 10k plan, but it really doesn't work with my schedule. I checked out the schedule he made for the January half marathon and decided to start that on Monday and work on it until the schedule for the Princess kicks in.

Who here has done the Galloway plan posted on the RunDisney site? I'm not trying to be skeptical--I've just never seen a plan that only has you run 3 days a week and I'm worried I won't be prepared. I'd love to hear stories of success!

It depends on what your goal is. Again I'm not a Galloway person - but I ran my first half on 3 days a week/running plus cross training. Three years later, I run 5 days a week, and I've brought my half PR time down a bit over 15 minutes. Yes I finished my first half in one piece, and finished running the whole thing - which was my goal. But I definately have attributed my current PRs to the extra miles I've been doing. On a similar note - I have a friend who is at a somewhat similar pace, but her half marathon PR is about 2-3 mins faster than me. She also runs 5-10 more miles/week than I do.....so I don't think it's a coincidence that she is a bit faster than me, either.

But...I wouldn't advise adding too many running days/too many miles too soon, either - depending on how long you've been running for. Too much/too soon can lead to injuries and that doesn't help anyone either!
 
Finally registered last night! :)

I've been doing the Galloway 10k plan, but it really doesn't work with my schedule. I checked out the schedule he made for the January half marathon and decided to start that on Monday and work on it until the schedule for the Princess kicks in.

Who here has done the Galloway plan posted on the RunDisney site? I'm not trying to be skeptical--I've just never seen a plan that only has you run 3 days a week and I'm worried I won't be prepared. I'd love to hear stories of success!

I have done 3 half marathons using the galloway training plan, 2 of which I was injury free. IT WORKS! Trust it. AND if you can get your cross training in as well.
 

I was going to have my cell phone on me as well, so I could text him with any supplies I might need as well. Would he be able to pass off anything to me like gels or anything? Maybe could he give me my small camera then so I wouldn't have to carry it the first 4.5 miles? (Are there any characters on the route before you reach the MK?

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There are definitely characters before the MK. One of the first photo ops last year was Jack Sparrow & crew, followed by a bundle of princes. There were various drumlines & musicians, and Lilo & Stitch were in the parking lot right before you get into the MK. I might be forgetting some, but if getting lots of pics is important to you, you might want to have your camera on you from the start.
 
How far distance-wise have you gone so far? I find that the run/walking really helps with the distance (especially the 16 mile week!).

There are people in my Galloway training group from 7min miles all the way to 18 min miles. The 10 min group does 3 min run, 1 min walk intervals.

I've recovered enough from a spring injury and a summer blood donation to be able to run 3 miles without walks. Anything over that still gets a walk break. Tomorrow's goal is 6 miles, which I'll try to do with 3 min. run and 1 min. walk. With my horrible feet and my age (60!) I'm thrilled if I can maintain those intervals. Nobody has ever called me fast - my PR for a 5K is a bit over 33 minutes, but at this stage of my running life (didn't start running until I was 48) I'm happy to still be able to do it! Without Galloway, I probably would have quit.
 
I was in a walking boot for 8 weeks with strict orders for no impact exercise until the boot came off and I was fully healed (passed the tuning fork test and could jump on that foot alone with no pain).

How did he diagnose the stress fracture? Did they do an xray or bone scan?

This sounds like something your doctor should be discussing with you in more detail.

He did an x-ray and said it showed bone thickening along where the muscle attaches and he was feeling along the outside of my shin, which is always a little tender. And I told him the pain was deep on the inside of the bone. He said it is shoe related. :confused3 I have had the shoes since the end of May and didn't start getting this pain till maybe early July.

While I was there the orthotist did his thing for new orthotics. I should have those by the end of the week. I don't know how they will come back. I am a PT and the way they used to make orthotics was looking at your gait and see how off center your calcaneus was. He just had me walk on a gait mat that showed the pressure levels on the sole of your foot as you step. When the image came up there was no pressure over my arches. I'm a little leary how these will come out. I guess worse case senario they have to remake them. Won't my insurance co just love that.
 
How far distance-wise have you gone so far? I find that the run/walking really helps with the distance (especially the 16 mile week!).

There are people in my Galloway training group from 7min miles all the way to 18 min miles. The 10 min group does 3 min run, 1 min walk intervals.

My longest run was a little over 4 miles. That was back towards the beginning of my running (started at the end of February, this was in April). Since then, I got a new job and have been trying to balance the gym/commute/work, so I try and run at least 3 days a week.

Recently I've been averaging 25-30 minute runs and running about 2.1-2.4 miles, so around a 5.0-5.5 pace. I decided to kick it up about a month ago--I was running between 4.5-4.8 pace and was not feeling confident and really hit a wall. I've felt a lot better confidence wise, just a little more tired at the end.

It probably doesn't help I only run at the gym as well--I have been absolutely terrible the handful of times I've run outside. I run way too quickly and cannot feel out the pace I had on the treadmill.
 
I'm a straight runner also...and when I first started (around 3 years ago...craziness how time flies) and I was around your pace, maybe a few seconds faster. I never thought my race pace would be a 10 min mile...but now I can proudly say it's 9:20ish (aiming for 9:00 min/mile next half mara!) for a half, and 8:40ish for short races (aiming for 8:30 next short race!) Believe me you'll get there...just keep running those miles!



It depends on what your goal is. Again I'm not a Galloway person - but I ran my first half on 3 days a week/running plus cross training. Three years later, I run 5 days a week, and I've brought my half PR time down a bit over 15 minutes. Yes I finished my first half in one piece, and finished running the whole thing - which was my goal. But I definately have attributed my current PRs to the extra miles I've been doing. On a similar note - I have a friend who is at a somewhat similar pace, but her half marathon PR is about 2-3 mins faster than me. She also runs 5-10 more miles/week than I do.....so I don't think it's a coincidence that she is a bit faster than me, either.

But...I wouldn't advise adding too many running days/too many miles too soon, either - depending on how long you've been running for. Too much/too soon can lead to injuries and that doesn't help anyone either!

I honestly just want to finish. I would LOVE to finish at 3 hours or less..but I'm trying to be realistic. I am absolutely terrified of being swept!
 
Hi everyone- I've been "off" of running or even walking the past 6 days since my 10k race, which feels very weird. My left shin start hurting again, I thought I was over it! So I'm taking a little bit of time to baby it. I think I will go back out tomorrow for a long speed walk and work up to a run.

Also, just a reminder you can PM me with your first name and what hotel you are staying at and I will add you to the list that is on post #1 of this thread.

Hope you all are well! Dig Deep!
Michele
 
By the way, any folks from San Antonio? I'm headed there on vacation in 2 days.... would love some BBQ advice :cool1: I know, I know SOOOO not running related.
 
He did an x-ray and said it showed bone thickening along where the muscle attaches and he was feeling along the outside of my shin, which is always a little tender. And I told him the pain was deep on the inside of the bone. He said it is shoe related. :confused3 I have had the shoes since the end of May and didn't start getting this pain till maybe early July.

My doctor did the same thing, with the same diagnosis. She said a bone scan was not necessary as she saw a disturbance in the tender area on the x-ray, and I failed both the tuning fork and jumping only on that foot tests.

She also said the same thing about my shoes and gait. I have very flat feet and evidently overpronated like crazy. Throw in 40-60 extra pounds on my should-be-about-150-lb frame, and I am sure that didn't help! :laughing:

My rehab started on Nov 20th or so - was in an air cast until Dec 28th, then she blessed my newly fitted ASIC Gel-2150s (said I didn't need orthotics based on the ones that came with the shoes), and gave me a gradual training plan with a lot of walking that I followed. I did the Princess on Feb 26th, but almost all walking and finished a little over 3:30.

Since then I have gradually increased pace and distance and was able to do 16.5 miles a few weeks back with no shin pain. It does twinge occasionally but not usually related at all to running.

Btw, I got blisters all along my instep from the new shoes - I guess I really WAS turning in!!!

My longest run was a little over 4 miles. That was back towards the beginning of my running (started at the end of February, this was in April). Since then, I got a new job and have been trying to balance the gym/commute/work, so I try and run at least 3 days a week.

Recently I've been averaging 25-30 minute runs and running about 2.1-2.4 miles, so around a 5.0-5.5 pace. I decided to kick it up about a month ago--I was running between 4.5-4.8 pace and was not feeling confident and really hit a wall. I've felt a lot better confidence wise, just a little more tired at the end.

It probably doesn't help I only run at the gym as well--I have been absolutely terrible the handful of times I've run outside. I run way too quickly and cannot feel out the pace I had on the treadmill.

I honestly just want to finish. I would LOVE to finish at 3 hours or less..but I'm trying to be realistic. I am absolutely terrified of being swept!

You will finish. At the pace you are able to keep up right now, you will be FINE. I did all of my training for the first Princess I did on the treadmill. It was just too cold here that winter and I didn't like outside running alone.

Now what you need to do is gradually increase your weekend long runs. Starting at 3 miles, based on where you are now, go 3, 4, 5, 6, 5, 7, 9, 10, or something like it. You have a lot of time to get the distance in, and the more gradual you go, the better. A lot of running is mental confidence and setting slightly lower goals will give you a good boost!

Galloway recommends (and I agree) that you do your long runs 2 minutes slower than your "race pace" - which for you is your short run pace. It will help you get up to the distance without injury. The long runs are to get your feet and legs used to running (or run/walking) that far, especially if this is your first time getting up to that kind of distance.

You can totally do this! :yay:

How did everyone do on their runs this weekend?

I did 9 miles, run/walk. Today will be a rest day :)

10.6 miles yesterday with my Galloway group on a local greenway/trail. A little cooler than the rest of the summer but still hot here.

Definitely a rest day today!
 
I had my first race yesterday - only a 2 mile. It went pretty well. I have a 5K in 2 weeks. I'm trying to decide to follow Galloway or Higdon half marathon plan. Right now I'm taking no walk breaks, but haven't gotten past 3 miles yet.
 
Long run done, it should have been 7.25km, just 1km more then the last two weeks but Draft Logic is hard to use for curvy routes.

So, 7.8km (4.85m) in 1:15, so 9:46/km or 15:56/m. 1st week at the longer distance, so I am hoping for a pace closer to my best of 9:15/km next week.

Pj
 
How did everyone do on their runs this weekend?

I did 9 miles, run/walk. Today will be a rest day :)

Good for 9 miles!

I was supposed to do 7 miles, but had to cut it really short. Managed to squeeze out 3.66 miles with much more walking than I had planned.

The mental battle was to much this morning. My quads are tight and sore thanks to kettlebells. I tried rolling, but it hurt! I'm going to try again later with some extra stretching thrown in. Hopefully if I focus on rolling/stretching Tuesday's 4.5 miles will go well.
 
princess:

Ran my first 10K today - the timer said 1:09 as I passed, hopefully the "official" results will be posted later today or tomorrow! I did a lot better than I had thought I would!

Is that OK enough of a time to submit to Disney? I'm planning on doing a 10K in November hopefully I can improve on my time by then!!
 
You will finish. At the pace you are able to keep up right now, you will be FINE. I did all of my training for the first Princess I did on the treadmill. It was just too cold here that winter and I didn't like outside running alone.

Now what you need to do is gradually increase your weekend long runs. Starting at 3 miles, based on where you are now, go 3, 4, 5, 6, 5, 7, 9, 10, or something like it. You have a lot of time to get the distance in, and the more gradual you go, the better. A lot of running is mental confidence and setting slightly lower goals will give you a good boost!

Galloway recommends (and I agree) that you do your long runs 2 minutes slower than your "race pace" - which for you is your short run pace. It will help you get up to the distance without injury. The long runs are to get your feet and legs used to running (or run/walking) that far, especially if this is your first time getting up to that kind of distance.

You can totally do this! :yay:

You are awesome Kat! Thank you so much for the motivation! :)

If I'm running around a 14:00 min mile for my long runs, will I eventually be able to kick that up to 12:00? I'm guessing once you build that endurance you start to be able to run faster? I guess I don't see how I will ever be able to more than 4 miles, :D

It also helps to hear that you also trained on a treadmill. I am so worried this will be a huge setback for me! I still have no idea how I am going to keep a steady pace on race day.
 
princess:

Ran my first 10K today - the timer said 1:09 as I passed, hopefully the "official" results will be posted later today or tomorrow! I did a lot better than I had thought I would!

Is that OK enough of a time to submit to Disney? I'm planning on doing a 10K in November hopefully I can improve on my time by then!!

Congrats! If you use McMillan's running calculator, it will predict a 2:33 hm finish time based on your 10k, which I believe will put you in corral b- but yes, it's a great time to submit! If your time increases significantly in November, you can always resubmit no problem

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/cgi-bin/calc.pl


You are awesome Kat! Thank you so much for the motivation! :)

If I'm running around a 14:00 min mile for my long runs, will I eventually be able to kick that up to 12:00? I'm guessing once you build that endurance you start to be able to run faster? I guess I don't see how I will ever be able to more than 4 miles, :D

It also helps to hear that you also trained on a treadmill. I am so worried this will be a huge setback for me! I still have no idea how I am going to keep a steady pace on race day.

For your long runs, you should try to run them 1-2 minutes slower than your race pace. A far wiser runner than myself explained it me to this way - most people don't lack the leg speed to keep up their desired pace for 26.2 (or 13.1 in the case of princess!), but rather they lack the endurance to keep that leg speed going on. And that's where the "bonk" happens. But yes, the more you run, your pace does get faster over time. And new runners see the improvement the most quickly, too.

I wouldn't recommend using the treadmill exclusively - but it's totally fine to mix some runs inside, some runs outside...very common, in fact. Some runners will even split their runs and do half outside, half inside when the weather gets too brutal. I totally understand how you feel about being nervous about running outside...when I first started, I used to get so anxious - am I running at the race pace, where I am, how long gone for, etc, etc. It wasn't until I invested in a Garmin that I became more comfortable running outside than inside.

Keep doing what you are doing and slowly increasing your mileage....you will finish just fine!
 
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