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Your x-ray vision read between the lines with perfect accuracy!:cool1:

Awe thanks :goodvibes Just doing my job :thumbsup2

I'm sick however, so going to bed!!! Way too early a night, but what can I do <sigh> somebody will have to follow the goings on... particularly KO, hopefully Wilderness (or anyone) will watch and fill me in....
 
Alex Witt, MSNBC, asked John Kerry if Obama had done enough about Rev Wright. Kerry replied "you people have got to let this go", it's old news and it is a distration. I have heard several people say that to the hosts on MSNBC today. Andrea got mad, Alex at least looked embarrassed. Seems the only ones still beating the drums are the republicans. I just hope the people in IN and NC are paying attention.

Anyone but me think that John Edwards is waiting to see who wins before he jumps on the bandwagon? He has to know who he wants to win by now, he has a chance to make a difference in NC, after Tues. no one will care what he says.
 
Great work finding this information!
Very revealing, and you have to wonder, sometimes if some of those folks are lacking a conscience. Deliberately misleading registered voters by using sneaky robo-calls is a nauseating tactic.

Conscience? We're talking about Clintons. :confused3
 

Alex Witt, MSNBC, asked John Kerry if Obama had done enough about Rev Wright. Kerry replied "you people have got to let this go", it's old news and it is a distration. I have heard several people say that to the hosts on MSNBC today. Andrea got mad, Alex at least looked embarrassed. Seems the only ones still beating the drums are the republicans. I just hope the people in IN and NC are paying attention.

Anyone but me think that John Edwards is waiting to see who wins before he jumps on the bandwagon? He has to know who he wants to win by now, he has a chance to make a difference in NC, after Tues. no one will care what he says.

In addition to the Republicans, the only other ones beating the drum are the media. I like Kerry's response and wish other supporters when asked would say the same thing. It is patently obvious Wright does not speak for Obama and all the media focus is not going to change that. For Democratic and independent white voters 'concerned' or 'troubled' by Wright's comments--again look at Obama's public record.. As wvrevy has noted-- show what Obama has done or said that shows he shares Wright's POV.

Of course, none can be found because they don't exist. So then the argument shifts to questions of his judgement and character due to this association. And I have to ask why is this association more suspect than Clinton's association with a get out the vote organization denounced for unethical and possibly illegal activities.
 
she went on Orly? :scared1:

that smacks of desperation or stupidity, or both
 
In addition to the Republicans, the only other ones beating the drum are the media. I like Kerry's response and wish other supporters when asked would say the same thing. It is patently obvious Wright does not speak for Obama and all the media focus is not going to change that. For Democratic and independent white voters 'concerned' or 'troubled' by Wright's comments--again look at Obama's public record.. As wvrevy has noted-- show what Obama has done or said that shows he shares Wright's POV.

Of course, none can be found because they don't exist. So then the argument shifts to questions of his judgement and character due to this association. And I have to ask why is this association more suspect than Clinton's association with a get out the vote organization denounced for unethical and possibly illegal activities.

I don't understand it either. I am sure McSame & Hillary have suspect associations too. I just don't know what else the media can say about Wright that hasn't already been said. They didn't go on and on about Bush's drug use, or his DWI, we never even heard about Laura's killing a man in a car crash. Yet they somehow feel anything about Wright is justified.
 
Conscience? We're talking about Clintons. :confused3

Don't know why but this post reminded of a line from All About in Eve in which Bette Davis (as Margo Channing) says:

Lovely speech, Eve. But I wouldn't worry so much about your heart. You can always put that award where your heart ought to be.
 
This finding from a Rasmussen poll gives hope:

Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters nationwide say that it is more important to understand a candidate’s specific policy proposals rather than the candidate’s character. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 36% disagree and believe that it is more important to understand a candidate’s character.

Any chance the media and the HRC campagin will get the point? Here's the link. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/52_say_candidate_policies_matter_more_than_character_36_disagree
 
Here's an interesting item that rips HRC's 'I-m-just-a-regular-beer-in-one-hand-gun-in-the-other-jane-who-feels-your-pain facade. I guess her memory about Magnequench is about as dodgy as her sniper fire travail and her hands-on in-front-and-behnid-the-scenes policy involvement. Except of course, when she was not involved.

Hoosier Responsible?
Clinton Decries China's Acquisition of Indiana Company -- Ignoring Her Husband's Role in the Sale

Here's the link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1
 
Are you freakin' kidding me! Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz....YOU ARE AS DIRTY AS THE DAY IS LONG!


Breaking News! : Hillary Clinton Required to Testify in November to FEC Fraud!

To All Super Delegates! : This is very disturbing news!

In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!

While Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Al Gore, Ed Rendell, Barabara Streisand, Cher, Stan Lee, Brad Pitt, Mike Wallace, Larry King et al may be called to testify and be deposed starting in May, Hillary alone has been protected from explaining her role in her husband’s fraud charges.

In an astonishing ruling by the Judge, Hillary Clinton may NOT be deposed about her role in the illegal solicitation and cover up of the largest contribution made to her Senate campaign until after the presidential election. This is the same contribution Hillary denied knowing about or receiving when Lloyd Grove of the Washington Post asked her specifically about it and her relationship with the donor, Peter Paul, in August 2000. Its the same contribution her finance director David Rosen was criminally tried in May, 2005, or hiding from her and her campaign. Its the same contribution the FEC fined her campaign for hiding from the voters in three false FEC reports by her treasurer between 2000-2006. (www.paulvclinton.com)

Equally surprising as the ruling was the judge’s request to Hillary defense lawyer David Kendall to “say hello to his (Judge Munoz”) friend Bill, also a partner in Kendall’s law firm”
The decision to shield Hillary Clinton from civil discovery for an additional seven months, thereby delaying a long postponed trial,was made by the judge on his own, without any request by Hillary or her lawyer to make the ruling. No discussion was permitted by Paul’s lawyer before the decision was made. Judge Munoz’ unilateral decision effectively saved the floundering campaign and hopes of Hillary Clinton to win her party’s Presidential nomination!

Had Senator Clinton be forced to testify under oath, as a material witness and beneficiary of the fraud that her husband is being sued for before the Democratic Convention, her remote chances for being nominated the party candidate would have been unquestionably destroyed.

Hillary has never publicly commented on the case in which she was a defendant from 2003-2006. Nor has Hillary ever commented on the videotaped phone call she made to Peter Paul the day he began spending more than $1 million for her Senate campaign, the false statements she made through Howard Wolfson to the Washington Post denying working with Paul or receiving any contributions from him, the sworn Declaration she made under oath where she refused to deny any of Paul’s allegations, the role her White House aide Kelly Craighead played in coordinating Paul’s expenditures and befirending Paul’s Japanese business partner during a White House visit and many other unanswered questions of illegal conduct.

The illegalities detailed in Paul’s civil complaint and FEC complaint caused Hillary’s finance director to be criminally indicted and tried in 2005 by the Department of Justice Office of Public Integrity (the same group that prosecuted Scooter Libby) for hiding the cost of a fundraiser paid for by Paul. Paul’s FEC allegations forced Hillary’s campaign to admit to the FEC in October, 2005, that it violated FEC reporting requirements by hiding more than $700,000 received from Paul that Hillary personally said she never received.

Hillary’s sworn deposition is expected to reveal numerous illegalities directed by Hillary, with Bill’s help, to win and keep her Senate seat and avoid being accountable to the law. The judge’s sua sponte decision to delay Hillary’s deposition until after the presidential election denies the public’s right to know what a presidential candidate and a former president have done to undermine the Rule of Law and the Constitution by corrupting the Department of Justice Office of Public Integrity and its very Chief, Noel Hillman, federal judge A Howard Matz appointed by Bill Clinton (who deceived the jury in the criminal trial of Hillary’s finance director by telling the jury that Hillary was not involved in any way) and the FEC itself which aided and abetted Hillary filing a fourth false FEC report in January, 2006 that omitted any reference to the $1.2 million contribution the FBI and DOJ swore Paul made.

The Department of Justice prosecutor in the May, 2005 criminal case stated that $1.2 million was personally contributed by Paul at the request of Bill Clinton as part of an employment deal for Clinton’s post White House rainmaking services and was confirmed by FBI Special Agent David Smith as explained by Dept of Justice Prosecutor Dan Schwaber (pages 55,57,72) during the criminal trial of Hillary’s finance director David Rosen in May 2005.
Hillary’s treasurer was later forced to admit filing the false FEC reports to hide more than $700,000 paid by Paul, and fined $35,000 (the only fine imposed on Hillary’s campaign) yet Hillary has never answered one question to the media or the courts about these charges!

In fact, Hillary’s sworn Declaration in response to Paul’s sworn allegations constituted a legal admission to Paul’s charges becauseHillary refused to deny any of the allegations!
Strangely, Hillary admitted to the Washington Post in August 2000 knowing that the fundraising event Paul produced and paid for in August, 2000 cost more than $1 million- yet Rosen was indicted on three counts of hiding this fact from Hillary’s campaign causing 3 false FEC reports to be filed!

The cover-up of the original felony violations of the federal election law committed by Hillary and Bill Clinton (they solicited and coordinated Paul’s $1 million plus contribution as a quid pro quo for Clinton’s post White House employment) have resulted in a corruption of every branch of the government by the Clinton’s- all in plain view of the public and with the collusion of the media and the government. Watergate seems insignificant in the breadth of its public corruption in comparison with what has become the mother of all coverups orchestrated by Hillary Clinton.
 
I thought she was going to be deposed in November... I cannot believe the call on the judges' part. But who knows...perhaps Bill called in a favor...

In a different article, I read this HRC response rebutting the charges by Paul...

"I have no recollection whatsoever of discussing any arrangement with him whereby he would support my campaign for the United States Senate in exchange for anything from me or then-President Clinton, and I do not believe I made any such statement because I believe I would remember such a discussion if it had occurred"
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I guess she would remember this the same way she remembered being under attack by sniper fire. I'd imagine this pesky legal matter--if not swept under the carpet--could get in the way of her being ready on day one.;)

Illegal and criminal fundraising and Clinton's association and not a blip on the media radar. But soundbites from sermons from someone not running for political office is front and center. The mind she boggles.....
 
I'll bet that is just the tip of the iceberg. If she gets elected we will have 4 years of this, it will be Bill all over again. Why wasn't this brought up at the ABC debate. And people still think the media is being hard on Hillary?
 
The ABC debate focused on the really tough issues facing the country: you know--why candidates don't wear flag pins; is a former pastor who was a marine a patriotic American--you know the tough issues.:lmao:
 
The ABC debate focused on the really tough issues facing the country: you know--why candidates don't wear flag pins; is a former pastor who was a marine a patriotic American--you know the tough issues.:lmao:

You are right, how could I forget all those important issues! Silly me!
 
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WASHINGTON - A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to "heal the rift in our party" and unite behind the Illinois senator.
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Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday's primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

"I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it's now bad for the Democratic Party," Andrew said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC near the end of his presidency, and Andrew endorsed the former first lady last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House.

Andrew said in his letter that he is switching his support because "a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists (Republican) John McCain."

"While I was hopeful that a long, contested primary season would invigorate our party, the polls show that the tone and temperature of the race is now hurting us," Andrew wrote. "John McCain, without doing much of anything, is now competitive against both of our remaining candidates. We are doing his work for him and distracting Americans from the issues that really affect all of our lives."

Andrew said the Obama campaign never asked him to switch his support, but he decided to do so after watching Obama's handling of two issues in recent days. He said Obama took the principled stand in opposing a summer gas tax holiday that both Clinton and McCain supported, even though it would have been easier politically to back it. And he said he was impressed with Obama's handling of the controversy surrounding his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Wright's outspoken criticisms of the United States have threatened Obama's candidacy. Obama initially refused to denounce his former pastor, but he did so this week after Wright suggested that Obama secretly agrees with him.

"He has shown such mettle under fire," Andrew said in the interview. "The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party."

Andrew's decision puts Obama closer to closing Clinton's superdelegate lead. Clinton had a big advantage among superdelegates, many of whom like Andrews have ties to the Clintons and backed her candidacy early on. But most of the superdelegates taking sides recently have gone for Obama, who has won more state contests.

Obama now trails her by just 19 superdelegates, 244-263. This week, he picked up eight superdelegates while she netted three.

Superdelegates are nearly 800 elected leaders and Democratic Party officials who aren't bound by the outcome of state contests and can cast their ballot for any candidate at the national convention. They are especially valuable in this race since neither Clinton nor Obama can win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination through state-by-state elections.

Obama now leads in the delegate count overall 1732.5 to 1597.5 for Clinton. A candidate needs 2,025 delegates to win the nomination. About 230 superdelegates remain undecided, and about 60 more will be selected at state party conventions and meetings throughout the spring.

Other party leaders are encouraging superdelegates to pick a side by late June to prevent the fight from going to the national convention in August. Andrews wrote in his letter that he is calling for "fellow superdelegates across the nation to heal the rift in our party and unite behind Barack Obama."

It's the second endorsement for Obama this week that could be influential in Indiana. Rep. Baron Hill, who represents a crucial swing district in the state, endorsed Obama on Wednesday. Clinton has the backing of Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, who has a vast organization in the state and has been campaigning aggressively with the former first lady.

Obama and Clinton are running close in Indiana and both need a victory there — Obama to help rebound from a loss to Clinton in Pennsylvania and to prove he can win Midwestern voters and Clinton so she can overcome Obama's lead in the race overall.
 
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