Nowhere to go.

[sunshinehighway]

I thought this was an interesting article:

Sounds just about what I'd expect...ple I know stopped talking about it days ago.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

So, let's start acting like terrorist in some kind of Morale tit for tat?

I keep Dr Kings words in my head, "an eye for an eye simply leaves everyone blind". I never want my children see me with so much hate that I act like a terrorist.

No we do not"owe" him compassion but then again Good has enough forgiveness to not give me what I deserve.
The answer to inhumanity is not to act inhuman. The answer to hate is not more hate. Never works.

Just my choice.

I agree.

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[Nette]

What do you say to the victim's of this man's bomb? The 8 yr old child had a mother too. The mother of the woman who died was on the news talking/weeping about her daughter the next day. You could tell she was heartbroken. The Chinese family who lost their daughter wasn't even from here.

ALL the surviving victims had mothers too!

This terrorist doesn't deserve to be buried on American soil. Soil and people he HATED. He wasn't even an American citizen. He has no American rights.

His body parts should be chopped up and sent home in individual pressure cookers.

What do I say to his MOM who also HATES the U.S? Who has no problem stealing from us and would USE our good will and money to get her son returned to her. How about she go to the very terrorist groups she aligns with to give her the money to get her son back? Where is their loyalty back to her?

I say: Sorry Mom, your son lost his right to be treated humanely when he treated our citizens inhumanely and without regard. We don't owe him any regard in return.

So we should punish the parent for the sins of her child? I'm typically not a big bleeding heart, but I don't have any reason to punish the mother for the son's evils. He got his. He's dead. Period. In some ways that's too good for him. But the people left on Earth are the ones who have to pick up the pieces.

 

[crashbb]

So, let's start acting like terrorist in some kind of Morale tit for tat?

I keep Dr Kings words in my head, "an eye for an eye simply leaves everyone blind". I never want my children see me with so much hate that I act like a terrorist.

No we do not"owe" him compassion but then again Good has enough forgiveness to not give me what I deserve.
The answer to inhumanity is not to act inhuman. The answer to hate is not more hate. Never works.

Just my choice.

What I find interesting is that I don't remember these sort of commons before. No one suggested (that I read) desecrating the body of the Newtown shooter, for example.

 

[buffettgirl]

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But the people demonstrating SHOULD have more rights than the TERRORIST's family does to bury his sorry A**.

I don't even know where you got that from. No one said the people holding the sign don't have right to do it, just that if they're going to continue to do it then they have to know that there is a cost associated with it.

The terrorist is dead. His family wants to bury his body. We're not giving the terrorist rights. We're treating his family like civilized people.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I don't even know where you got that from. No one said the people holding the sign don't have right to do it, just that if they're going to continue to do it then they have to know that there is a cost associated with it.

The terrorist is dead. His family wants to bury his body. We're not giving the terrorist rights. We're treating his family like civilized people.

From what I heard on the morning news, it appears the problems burying him lie with local officials in towns and his family. Apparently there have been places willing to take him but ended up being rejected by either town officials where the cemeteries were located or his family.

 

[skylizard]

I admire the funeral director for what he does. We live in a civilized society and act in a civilized way, even if others do not.[/QUOTE]

AMEN!

 

[Teacher Princess]

Then they shouldn't complain about the tax dollars spent to protect their rights.

I admire the funeral director for what he does. We live in a civilized society and act in a civilized way, even if others do not.

Well said !!

 

[foreUT]

So we should punish the parent for the sins of her child? I'm typically not a big bleeding heart, but I don't have any reason to punish the mother for the son's evils. He got his. He's dead. Period. In some ways that's too good for him. But the people left on Earth are the ones who have to pick up the pieces.

Has the mother ever offered any sympathy for the Bombing victims?

 

[penn19]

So, let's start acting like terrorist in some kind of Morale tit for tat?

I keep Dr Kings words in my head, "an eye for an eye simply leaves everyone blind". I never want my children see me with so much hate that I act like a terrorist.

No we do not"owe" him compassion but then again Good has enough forgiveness to not give me what I deserve.
The answer to inhumanity is not to act inhuman. The answer to hate is not more hate. Never works.

Just my choice.

Absolutely. What he (and his brother) did was horrible, but there have been some other people who have done horrible things. And I don't remember them not being properly buried when the time came. THey probably need to take his body in the dead of night and bury him in an undisclosed location.

 

[buffettgirl]

Has the mother ever offered any sympathy for the Bombing victims?

The mother still insists that it was some sort of government coverup/conspiracy/plot and that the victims were just faking it. So no, she hasn't offered any sympathy.

Then again , I can't really say the mother is any worse than some people in THIS country who are saying the same thing. Google Stella Trembley, a state rep from NH. I have a bigger issue with this lunatic than I do with the mother.

 

[cabanafrau]

So we should punish the parent for the sins of her child? I'm typically not a big bleeding heart, but I don't have any reason to punish the mother for the son's evils. He got his. He's dead. Period. In some ways that's too good for him. But the people left on Earth are the ones who have to pick up the pieces.

No, a parent shouldn't be punished for the sins of their children. However, I have zero sympathy for this mother. She has shown none for the mothers who lost their children to the bombs her sons created, those injured by the bombs, the police officer executed by her sons or the police officer nearly fatally wounded by her sons. Matter of fact many of her comments and actions have poured salt in the wounds of the victims.

Enough with this woman, just enough already. She should receive no consideration going forward, none, absent serious demonstrations of remorse.

As for the burial, the most sensible solution would be the same as was given Bin Laden. No point in providing an anonymous site that will provoke endless speculation, fascination, outrage and no doubt sickening pilgrimage. It's understandable people are outraged and want some measure of "satisfaction". I admit to seeing a certain justification to feeding him to pigs or delivering him to mommy ensconced in a pressure cooker, but I think it's best to drop him out at sea, never to be seen, heard or thought of again, completely irrelevant.

 

[okeydokey]

Has the mother ever offered any sympathy for the Bombing victims?

Her having sympathy for the victims should have no bearing on whether we do the right thing by taking care of the son's body. I will never judge my actions by comparing them to other people's. The right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless if other people do right.

 

[NaLisa]

Her having sympathy for the victims should have no bearing on whether we do the right thing by taking care of the son's body. I will never judge my actions by comparing them to other people's. The right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless if other people do right.

ITA! I don't know why anyone's bothering to listen to anything the mother says. And why in the world should we let her determine how we're going to act?

 

[foreUT]

The mother still insists that it was some sort of government coverup/conspiracy/plot and that the victims were just faking it. So no, she hasn't offered any sympathy.

Then again , I can't really say the mother is any worse than some people in THIS country who are saying the same thing. Google Stella Trembley, a state rep from NH. I have a bigger issue with this lunatic than I do with the mother.

She lived in MA for over ten years, accepted the generosity of the people of the state and country, but still is unable to offer a few words of sympathy for the victims? Even if you believe there was a conspiracy, wouldn't you still offer condolences and sympathy for the victims?

 

[foreUT]

Her having sympathy for the victims should have no bearing on whether we do the right thing by taking care of the son's body. I will never judge my actions by comparing them to other people's. The right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless if other people do right.

I don't really worry how anyone else "acts" as long as children and animals aren't harmed. However, I continue to believe the uncle is wrong to insist that his nephew be buried in Cambridge. Empathy for others is what makes us civilized, imo. I hope that the body can be sent to the parents and they can bury their son, since that is what she wishes.

 

[foreUT]

From today's NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/us/prosecutors-say-phillipos-should-be-freed-until-trial.html?_r=0

Federal officials said they had no jurisdiction and no interest in getting involved. An F.B.I. official said that the body was no longer needed for the investigation and that the burial was up to the family and the local authorities.

Ray Madoff, a professor at Boston College Law School and a specialist in what she calls the law of the dead, said she had never seen such a case.

“There is no precedent for this type of thing,” she said. “It is a legal no-man’s land.”

She suggested that the body be sent back to Russia, where Mr. Tsarnaev, an ethnic Chechen who turned to conservative Islam, had lived in the republic of Dagestan — and that option may be gaining currency.

Peter A. Stefan, the owner of Graham Putnam & Mahoney Funeral Parlors in Worcester, which is holding the body, endorsed the idea Monday. He had dismissed it earlier, saying there was no guarantee that Russia would accept Mr. Tsarnaev’s body.

Mr. Stefan said that he had spoken with Mr. Tsarnaev’s mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, by phone on Sunday and that she had said she would like her son’s body to return to his home country. “She’d love to have him back there, obviously,” Mr. Stefan said. But he said he needed to make sure the Russian authorities would agree to accept the body and inter it.

He said he might seek help from Mr. Kerry in making the burial arrangements with the Russian authorities.

“If we could engineer that, that would be great, but we can’t just send the body over like we’re dumping it,” Mr. Stefan said.

 

[buffettgirl]

She lived in MA for over ten years, accepted the generosity of the people of the state and country, but still is unable to offer a few words of sympathy for the victims? Even if you believe there was a conspiracy, wouldn't you still offer condolences and sympathy for the victims?

Well, she doesn't actually believe there are victims. She (like the state rep from NH) actually think the whole thing was staged. The photos faked, the blood was all paint. So if you think those victims were actors then why would you offer sympathy?

I don't really worry how anyone else "acts" as long as children and animals aren't harmed. However, I continue to believe the uncle is wrong to insist that his nephew be buried in Cambridge. Empathy for others is what makes us civilized, imo. I hope that the body can be sent to the parents and they can bury their son, since that is what she wishes.

I think the uncle just thinks that where the family did live in Cambridge that it's the logical choice on where he should be buried. Like most other criminals, they end up buried in family plots in family locations. I don't see really anything unusual about it. He's not really insisting that. He simply wants a burial. Anywhere.

the mother is really unreliable. One minute she says she doesn't want the body in Russia and the next she says she does. All that is irrelevant though as Russia has said it will not accept the body. Regardless of what the mother wants. The funeral home can't just put the body on a plane and wash it's hand of the matter.

On the other hand, the work of the funeral home continues for another local family and their mourning is being disrupted simply because of the clothing worn by some of the family. Pathetic:

http://www.telegram.com/article/20130507/COLUMN01/105079916/-1/column

 

[sunshinehighway]

Well, she doesn't actually believe there are victims. She (like the state rep from NH) actually think the whole thing was staged. The photos faked, the blood was all paint. So if you think those victims were actors then why would you offer sympathy?


I think the uncle just thinks that where the family did live in Cambridge that it's the logical choice on where he should be buried. Like most other criminals, they end up buried in family plots in family locations. I don't see really anything unusual about it. He's not really insisting that. He simply wants a burial. Anywhere.

the mother is really unreliable. One minute she says she doesn't want the body in Russia and the next she says she does. All that is irrelevant though as Russia has said it will not accept the body. Regardless of what the mother wants. The funeral home can't just put the body on a plane and wash it's hand of the matter.

On the other hand, the work of the funeral home continues for another local family and their mourning is being disrupted simply because of the clothing worn by some of the family. Pathetic:

http://www.telegram.com/article/20130507/COLUMN01/105079916/-1/column

Why do you keep blaming the people of Worcester for this? First of all, the article clearly states the protester are a small group.

Outside, a handful of pathetic protesters with too much time on their hands continued to embarrass the city with their shouts that the corpse's presence is an embarrassment to the city.

Why continue to give these people attention?

Second, how is this Worcester's fault? That funeral director is stuck with a body many cities and towns rejected. Let's not forget that. Every place that has rejected burying the body is to blame for this situation. It really has nothing to do with Worcester.

 

[momontheright]

Sorry but the mom is a hair away from strapping a bomb to herself. She is a nutcase and I wish the news would stop showing clips of her babbling. They need to bury his body in an unknown grave as John Doe and be done with him. The more they talk about him the more he becomes a martyr to a few crazies who feel his acts were justified.