Nowhere to go.

[lovin'fl]

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[tinatark]

Bury him like the Newtown, Columbine, Oklahoma City murderers were all taken care of, quietly and anonymously.

 

[foreUT]

Bury him like the Newtown, Columbine, Oklahoma City murderers were all taken care of, quietly and anonymously.

ITA. Just do not understand the need to insist that the burial be in MA. It should be far from there, imo.

 

[Caropooh]

Here's a bit from an article on where others mass murderers are buried:


‘‘I keep bringing up the point of Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy,’’ Stefan told reporters. “Somebody had to do those, too.”

Oswald had indeed been buried, alongside his mother in the farthest edge of a Fort Worth, Texas cemetery where the workers are under standings instructions not to direct visitors to the grave. A flat rectangular marker reads only “Oswald." A small marker was placed beside it around 1998 reading “Nick Beef,” only that grave is apparently empty and the identify of whoever purchased is a mystery the cemetery declines to resolve.

But, the bodies of both the Oklahoma City bomber McVeigh and the serial killer Bundy went unclaimed after their executions. The authorities finally had them cremated and their ashes were scattered.

That is not an option for Tamerlan, as Islamic law prohibits cremation. What is permitted is burial at sea, as was done with Osama Bin Laden, who certainly killed many more innocents than Tamerlan.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...idow-wants-nothing-to-do-with-his-corpse.html

 

[carrie1626]

I can't wrap my head around this at all:

the uncle crys outrage over his nephew's actions.
but yet, steps forward to give terrorist nephew a muslim burial. WHY?

I hope the burial refusals become so overwhelming, that terrorist bomber is burned and ashes put to trash.

Why would this be anyone elses problem is beyond comprehension.

 

[kwelch10377]

I can't wrap my head around this at all:

the uncle crys outrage over his nephew's actions.
but yet, steps forward to give terrorist nephew a muslim burial. WHY?

I hope the burial refusals become so overwhelming, that terrorist bomber is burned and ashes put to trash.

Why would this be anyone elses problem is beyond comprehension.

His uncle is taking responsibility on behalf of the family and not leaving him for the state to deal with. Regardless of what his nephew has done the family feels it is proper to bury him in line with Muslim tradition.

I have a lot of respect for the uncle doing that and not passing the buck on to someone else. Since the family has claimed the body they are responsible for paying for all funeral costs, if no one had claimed the body it would be left to the state.

 

[DisneyMim]

I'm from Cambridge. There are two main cemeteries in Cambridge. My mother, father, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and a cousin are in one and my in-laws and my husband's brother and wife are in the other one along with other uncles and aunts. I do not want to go to these cemeteries to visit my relatives and even have to think about a terrorist being there among them. I do realize that he has to be buried but I agree with the others who said to put him someplace that nobody knows about. None of us should have to walk by his grave. He obviously hated America so why should he be here at all. It's been a very long month for all of us in the Boston area. I knew people who were killed and hurt. We need to heal not keep being reminded.

 

[foreUT]

Sounds like this is the latest:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio..._tamerlan_tsarnaev_s_mom_wants_body_buried_in

The distraught mother of Boston Marathon bombing mastermind Tamerlan Tsarnaev wants his body sent home to Russia, the funeral director caring for the remains said today.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva called Peter A. Stefan “in tears” yesterday afternoon, said Stefan, whose Graham Putnam & Mahoney Funeral Parlor has been seeking a Massachusetts cemetery that will accept Tsarnaev’s body since Friday.

“The woman was in tears,” Stefan said. “She just said, ‘It would be nice if you could get him home.’ She’d love to have him back there, obviously. Regardless of what he did, she’s still his mother. What are you going to say to her? What can you say?”


Stefan said the body has been cleansed per Muslim tradition by Tsarnaev’s uncle, is wrapped in shrouds and is ready to be shipped or interred locally. No community has been willing to take it.

“I have refrigeration. I can hold him for a long time,” Stefan said. “It’d be a great idea if we could send him to Russia, but I would have to have something from the State Department. This is a national security situation. We can’t just send a body over like we’re dumping it.”

Given the difficulty in finding a cemetery, Stefan said, Tsarnaev’s uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, now “just wants a burial. It doesn’t even have to be a Muslim grave. That’s how far along we are.”
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He said he’ll foot the bill himself to put Tsarnaev’s body on a plane, if Secretary of State John F. Kerry can assure him it will be respectfully dealt with on the other end of the flight.

“I’ll pay for it myself. It’s only a couple thousand dollars. My question is, is someone going to do something once I get him there? Not go back and forth and hold him there because he’s a terrorist or whatever,” Stefan said. “That day, have a service, a burial and end it. This is becoming an international political football.”

How much does this woman expect from others? I saw her Twitter account begging for money and, once again, expecting $ from others seems to be who she is.

Hopefully, Stefan can get the body on a plane, asap.

 

[crashbb]

I have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the funeral home director. From everything being reported about what he's done and said, he seems like a very decent and caring human being.

 

[buffettgirl]

I have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the funeral home director. From everything being reported about what he's done and said, he seems like a very decent and caring human being.

He is. He does this for many people, not just this guy. This is what he does.
http://bcove.me/3g0nwiq6

Watch the video, that's about all that needs to be said.

 

[Arielle22]

I have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the funeral home director. From everything being reported about what he's done and said, he seems like a very decent and caring human being.

I agree. He is handling the situation as he was trained to.

 

[soccerdad72]

I have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the funeral home director. From everything being reported about what he's done and said, he seems like a very decent and caring human being.

I agree. I just wish they can get the body buried somewhere and move on at this point.

 

[momontheright]

Is there not a prison cemetary somewhere that could handle this?

Surely, there are places others guilty of heinous crimes are buried discretely.

I also believe they are supposed to be buried within 48 after their death. So they've already broken one main burial rule of the religion, what's another? Light him up.

I'm also pretty sure the victims probably had some sort of religious belief that did not allow for them to be blown up. He wasn't very respectful of that. Put him in a pine box in a wooden canoe and point it towards Russia and give it a shove.

That's correct. Muslims do not cremate.

I think they should bury him at sea like they did with Bin Laden.

A close co-worker of mine is Muslin. He belongs to a sort of burying club in his mosque; everyone pays in and everyone gets buried in turn. Their burials are very, very green as well. (No caskets, not much in the way of headstones, no embalming etc.)

Since the brothers did belong to a mosque, I have to wonder if maybe the mosque now doesn't want to do the burying because they're scared of getting bombed or vandalized even facing worse outcomes, like long-standing community hatred of my mosque. If I were a member, I'd be very vocal in my opposition.

We seem to bounce from group to group that it's acceptable to hate, and right now its seems to that Muslims are that group, so if I belonged to the mosque, I'd be scared and I'd do just about anything to keep him from being associated with me and mine.

He wasn't a very good Muslim and did nothing more then tarnish their religion and religious views so IMOP he doesn't deserve the respect of being buried they way his faith calls for. He should be buried as a John Doe somewhere far away from Boston.

 

[wilkeliza]

He wasn't a very good Muslim and did nothing more then tarnish their religion and religious views so IMOP he doesn't deserve the respect of being buried they way his faith calls for. He should be buried as a John Doe somewhere far away from Boston.

If I'm not mistaken in Islam you are not to judge another's faith that is between that person and God. Yes he did a terrible act but his family (or even the prison system since he isn't a John Doe) has to follow the religious practices of burial.

I do believe they could so what they did for Bin Laden if people are sensitive about this. Have him a sea burial.

Now my question is where have other mass murders and terrorists been buried? I know this is a relatively new disaster so it is fresh on all our minds but it makes me wonder where other well known killers are and what was the protocol for their burials and such.

 

[VACamm]

They need to cremate him and dump his ashes into the landfill.

 

[NaLisa]

I have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the funeral home director. From everything being reported about what he's done and said, he seems like a very decent and caring human being.

Yes, he's just trying to do what's decent. I hope he's not being harrassed over it.

 

[bettymae1121]

Seems to me an easy answer is an Islamic burial but in a state or federal prison cemetery. Uncle can still cover the costs involved (including reimbursing the government for the plot). That should make everyone happy I would think. We don't pay for it, no one has to worry about a loved one being buried next to this guy, and the family and Islam is satisfied that their customs are followed.

 

[Caropooh]

Yes, he's just trying to do what's decent. I hope he's not being harrassed over it.

I would say the people protesting in front of his funeral home is harrassment. Thoough I guess it's their right to do that also.

 

[npmommie]

Don't believe the City of Boston is currently on the hook for any costs, since his body was claimed. That appears to be the reason that Mom and Dad didn't get the "independent autopsy". They learned that they would have to pay for it.

But thecity of Wiporcester is. Police security details are costly.

 

[foreUT]

But thecity of Wiporcester is. Police security details are costly.

I agree about the police costs, but I was referencing the mortuary expenses, which it appears his uncle would be shouldering, unless Mr. Stefan is providing it.