No more segmented vacations for ddp

[MAGICX2]

This is a prime example of why they will no longer allow members to segment their trips with the dining plan. This is a logistical nightmare for MS to arrange and the resorts to keep proper track of.
Personally, if we had a split stay at two different resorts, we would get the Deluxe Dining plan for the stay at one resort and then the Standard Dining plan for the second half of our stay. We would NEVER have tried to take advantage of the system by doing the dining plan one day then not the next and switching up Dlx vs. Basic every other day and so forth. This is what has reuined it for the rest of us.

 

[vinmar4]

I would not call it taking advantage of the system just because you have different needs or a different way of doing things. what somebody wants to do may not sound good for everybody else but as long as it is permited why not??
Sure it did not work out but that's part of learning IMHO

 

[DisneyaholicRaquel]

So, you can still have the different dining plans if your at 2 different resorts? What about the reservations having the same #?

 

[Dean]

This is a prime example of why they will no longer allow members to segment their trips with the dining plan. This is a logistical nightmare for MS to arrange and the resorts to keep proper track of.
Personally, if we had a split stay at two different resorts, we would get the Deluxe Dining plan for the stay at one resort and then the Standard Dining plan for the second half of our stay. We would NEVER have tried to take advantage of the system by doing the dining plan one day then not the next and switching up Dlx vs. Basic every other day and so forth. This is what has reuined it for the rest of us.

I think that's accurate as far as it goes.

I would not call it taking advantage of the system just because you have different needs or a different way of doing things. what somebody wants to do may not sound good for everybody else but as long as it is permited why not??
Sure it did not work out but that's part of learning IMHO

I agree that the members are not to blame it if was allowed. Even if DVC were out on a limb with Disney itself, this is not the fault of the members using the options allowed. Even for formal rules that are not enforced, one should blame the organization and not the individual. It's only when the individual purposefully sneaks around the rules that are enforced that I think the individual is to blame. That's a difference between a rule and law, IMO.

 

[Nanapapa3]

This is a prime example of why they will no longer allow members to segment their trips with the dining plan. This is a logistical nightmare for MS to arrange and the resorts to keep proper track of.
Personally, if we had a split stay at two different resorts, we would get the Deluxe Dining plan for the stay at one resort and then the Standard Dining plan for the second half of our stay. We would NEVER have tried to take advantage of the system by doing the dining plan one day then not the next and switching up Dlx vs. Basic every other day and so forth. This is what has reuined it for the rest of us.

Wow...you are so brutal.

I did not ruin it for you and the rest. Neither did anyone else who used segmenting while it was offered. It was a program that was allowed and I did nothing sneaky or illegal, nor did we take advantage of the system.

MS was more than happy to segment our stay and never said it was a nightmare for them. Each and every resort we stayed at never had a problem with it and every restaurant was happy to take our KTTW card with no problems.

We used a program that was offered to us, paid for it pre-trip and it worked out well.

Placing any blame on us or anyone else who used this program that Disney offered is shameful IN MY OPINION!

I would not call it taking advantage of the system just because you have different needs or a different way of doing things. what somebody wants to do may not sound good for everybody else but as long as it is permited why not??
Sure it did not work out but that's part of learning IMHO

Thanks for seeing everyone has different needs while on vacation and not accusing us of doing something illegal!

I think that's accurate as far as it goes.

I agree that the members are not to blame it if was allowed. Even if DVC were out on a limb with Disney itself, this is not the fault of the members using the options allowed. Even for formal rules that are not enforced, one should blame the organization and not the individual. It's only when the individual purposefully sneaks around the rules that are enforced that I think the individual is to blame. That's a difference between a rule and law, IMO.

No sneaking here...it was allowed, we used the program, Disney stopped it, now on to planning our next trip with tips from people here on the Disboards

 

[Dean]

No sneaking here...it was allowed, we used the program, Disney stopped it, now on to planning our next trip with tips from people here on the Disboards

I'm not suggesting you did, it seemed clear you were up front. However, there are many situations posted where people do or suggest this such as not listing everyone in the villa to skirt DDP or occupancy rules. I was dealing with the larger picture, something I routinely do in such threads.

 

[Chuck S]

Just a mod note to let everyone know that the last few posts here were merged from another thread, as they were all on the topic of no more segmenting.

 

[OurDogCisco]

I don't blame the OP for doing this because they used the system as it was advertised. But it is pretty obvious that the OP was using the dining plan to cover meals for 2 days at a time. I'm sure when Disney came up with segmented dining plan they didn't expect people to use it this way. Logically, the OP needs to understand that the way they used it was going to cause the system to go away. I knew over time it would go away because everytime I read about someone's plan it was always to use the credits over 2 days.

 

[Nanapapa3]

I don't blame the OP for doing this because they used the system as it was advertised. But it is pretty obvious that the OP was using the dining plan to cover meals for 2 days at a time. I'm sure when Disney came up with segmented dining plan they didn't expect people to use it this way. Logically, the OP needs to understand that the way they used it was going to cause the system to go away. I knew over time it would go away because everytime I read about someone's plan it was always to use the credits over 2 days.

Again, perfectly within the rules of segmenting to use the credits over a 2 day period. We never intended to cause the system to go away...foolishness! It seemed like a great way to see how a DP worked for the first time and Disney offered it for our use. If they did not want DVC members to use the credits over a 2 day period they could have implemented different rules which we would have followed.

 

[tjkraz]

If they did not want DVC members to use the credits over a 2 day period they could have implemented different rules which we would have followed.

And that's exactly what they have done.

I don't fault anyone for using the prior system within the permitted framework. But now that the segmenting has been eliminated it seems pretty clear that members were not using credits in a manner that Disney had either foreseen or endorsed.

Despite what some have been told, I'll be very surprised if this option returns in any format similar to the pre-9/6 arrangement.

 

[twinklebug]

MS was more than happy to segment our stay and never said it was a nightmare for them. Each and every resort we stayed at never had a problem with it and every restaurant was happy to take our KTTW card with no problems

No accusing you of doing anything wrong - I just would like to remind everyone that just because MS or a restaurant is pleasant and they seemingly have no trouble, that is not always the case. Disney is known world wide for their excellent people-oriented training programs and management. They're taught not to break a sweat in front of the guest and research/fix any issues before the guest is aware there is one.

My bet is the software is the issue. Training thousands of employees how to get around glitches with segmented reservations and them cascading through to the DDP is putting a bandaid on the problem, and we all know bandaids fall off and need to be reapplied. Fixing the software is the way to go, and in the meantime they've stopped segmentation.

Nanapapa3, I'm glad your trip went so smooth! Hopefully they will allow segmenting again - I know I'd love to try the DDP for just a couple nights.

 

[dzorn]

I don't blame the OP for doing this because they used the system as it was advertised. But it is pretty obvious that the OP was using the dining plan to cover meals for 2 days at a time. I'm sure when Disney came up with segmented dining plan they didn't expect people to use it this way. Logically, the OP needs to understand that the way they used it was going to cause the system to go away. I knew over time it would go away because everytime I read about someone's plan it was always to use the credits over 2 days.

Or the poster that got the deluxe plan broken into different days inbetween and got like 16 mugs for her group in a studio.

Denise in MI

 

[hmmerr02]

I actually received a call from the DVC exec offices this morning. I had sent in an email because of a horrendous segmenting experience last week. I didn't count ,y key to the world cards but I think I would come close to the 48 listed on this slight (I feel your pain). They told me that it was dvc's decision to withdrawal this program and that they would be reaching out to the members who currently have segmented trips planned. I didn't get a clear answer as to whether they currently planned member is just being made aware of the issued or being asked to change their reservation but he said this staff of people began making calls on Tuesday. He said the only reason they were taking this perk away was because of the onsite system failures and the unsure stress it was placing on resort front desk procedures and the poor level of service it was providing to members while onsite. I can attest to that....I was. Huge fan of the segmented ddp but nothing was worth the amount of hassle I went through. This was my second time doing this this year and it is getting worse instead of better.

Not sure if this helps at all answer anyone's questions but he really seemed sincere that they want their programs to work well for the members onsite and this one clearly doesn't.

I do agree that communication on this issue should be more forthright....in my opinion

 

[Grumpy Grandma]

hmmerr02 thank you for posting this. I have the first 2 days of my trip segmented with qsdp as I will be there by myself and not doing parks just resort and DTD so I thought this would make it very easy for me. Also liked the idea of the mug since I will be doing so much pool time on those days. My daughter arrives for 8 nights on my 3rd day and we have no dining plan. I've already paid for the plan so I'll be waiting to see what happens. If they make me cancel it it won't be a big deal .... I haven't arranged my whole vacation around it.

 

[Disneyhappy]

This may be old news. I just called to add the DDP to our November trip. We are getting in late the first day so I wanted the plan for all but that first day of the trip. I was told that we needed to add DDP for the entire trip unless we segment the trip at the time of booking. MS said they changed th epolicy about a week ago. I know there was talk that they were going to change it. My bad for putting it off. Busy life and all that...

 

[disneybride96]

I may be the minority, but I am glad it is gone.
Earlier this year we had a simple "segmented" trip. 4 nights, 9 people @ BLT then 3 nights, 4 people @ SSR. The Contemporary had a hard time with this fairly simple segment, I hate to think about the 1 day/2 day/3day types. Not only did it cause us the time and frustration, it ended up causing CR the housekeeping costs because when it couldn't be fixed in the computer, we were just "rebooked" as a regular CR guest, thus daily mousekeeping.

K.I.S.S.

 

[disneygrandma]

disneybride96, I'm a little confused. Did you have different segments for your time at BLT? What exactly happened? I would think that once you had checked in at CR then you should have been fine during your stay. Did you have a DDP?

We stayed at BLT for 1 night with the DXDDP. Then we moved to VWL for 2 nights with no DDP. The CM's at both resorts confirmed everything with us. We used our BLT keys on the 2nd day for DDP credits. And used our VWL keys for the room itself. No problems at all. We're really sad this is ending. We had hoped to do the segmenting on a trip next Sept.

 

[maburke]

We stayed at BLT for 1 night with the DXDDP. Then we moved to VWL for 2 nights with no DDP. The CM's at both resorts confirmed everything with us. We used our BLT keys on the 2nd day for DDP credits. And used our VWL keys for the room itself. No problems at all. We're really sad this is ending. We had hoped to do the segmenting on a trip next Sept.

Apparently you should still be able to do this. Though some CMs are saying otherwise, it appears that you can still change DP status when you change room types or resorts.

 

[castleri]

The BLT part of our stay was booked 1 night with DxDP and 2 nights without. We got our first keys at check in along with a paper showing the dining credits, the next day after eating at Chef Mickey's. They had offered to deliver them to the room between 8 and 9 am but we had breakfast reservations at 7 and then planned to head straight to EPCOT so said we would pick them up. When I did so the CM said the remaining credits had been transferred to the new key and we were good to go. We used them up that day and had no troubles except when one of us grabbed the wrong key card and tried to use it for a snack. I thought then how far they had come since I had done a segmented stay in Dec of last year. Too bad not everyone has had the same experience if what the DVC rep said is true about all the extra work and things not going smoothly. Of course we only had the one day of the plan but I don't know why someone who had the plan for the whole time at one resort and then changed to another resort should have any problems as even with one reservation number it is two separate check ins and outs. It really shouldn't be any different than if someone checked out and went home unless the first room key is made inoperable when you check into the second resort and then there could be problems with the credits left on the first key. Have a segmented already paid for reservation for AKV in Dec with the DXDP on the first night so will see what happens. We only have two nights there following a BCV 4 night stay.

 

[going/again]

You are painting with a pretty broad brush here. Blatantly abusing the system? Really? A change was made allowing this. When I made my reservation I asked about it and was told it was allowable and how it would work. I didn't try to be sneaky or deceitful. Doing things like walking reservations is abusing the system. I don't believe this is.

MS allows walking(we have never done it by the way) and says its allowable, so whats the differance.