dlavender
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I don't understand why they would need extra time tho.
Maybe with the extra hour people will forget that they are watching the same parade over again when they roll out FoF at 9PM.....................
I don't understand why they would need extra time tho.
It would be 9PM that's when HEA goes off.Maybe with the extra hour people will forget that they are watching the same parade over again when they roll out FoF at 9PM.....................
Maybe with the extra hour people will forget that they are watching the same parade over again when they roll out FoF at 9PM.....................
Well, that will change the answer to the age old question.
Yes but I don't think people are saving spots at 3. Move it shake it still performs after 3.Didn't they move some of the Move it, Shake it parades to be earlier to allow for crowds getting ready for HAE - could this just be a trickle down effect and now everything had to slot a little earlier?
Yes but I don't think people are saving spots at 3. Move it shake it still performs after 3.
The only thing I've heard that makes sense is with all of the Halloween parties and Christmas parties that close the parks early they wanted people to start to leave MK earlier. So move up the parade an hour and people will start to leave after that.no, i know that ... I meant that because Movie it Shake it moved earlier everything before it had to move up to allow for enough time between the end of FoP and the start of the next Move it Shake it
I don't know, grasping at straws
The only thing I've heard that makes sense is with all of the Halloween parties and Christmas parties that close the parks early they wanted people to start to leave MK earlier. So move up the parade an hour and people will start to leave after that.
That was always my answer when a guest asked me on my bus. Now, I would be right instead of being a wisea**."What time is the 3 O'clock parade?"
"2 O'clock"
You don't seem to understand me at all...all due respect...so this analysis is a bit off target.
I criticizebDisney's management decisions much more so than what's going on in the parks day to day.
But I can separate that stance from what works and what doesn't.
The NFL is a success/works...but it's not a well done project...it doesn't really add anything unique/memorable and that is a failure in management and execution or ulterior motives.
But it has drawn people and developed a following...so it works from an operational standpoint. However the ends do not justify the means.
What is the history of AK?
Let's go over it:
"Forced" by Eisner against the wishes of many upper managers and board members for many valid reasons...notably maintenance costs and difficulty selling animals across all demographics...
Built, but shortened and opened prematurely in a silly PR stunt with the lesser completion, so opened as a half park (a late Eisner signature move...he only built one full park)...
So that was apparent in 99-2002 and beyond when internal tracking (this is where not all takes are the same) showed that is suffered from multiple problems - including the theme and lack of enough attractions/interest due to many factors to drive a following...bad park design, lack of IP identity, bad word of mouth...etc.
So it fell behind the completely disheveled (honeslty) mgm as park 4 outta 4...and at the ridiculous high operational cost that is hard to swallow and sustain...
It's not all AK's fault...a huge problem is lack of middle class discretionary funds and no vacation to be had...but that is the main problem.
Immersive theming hasnt driven the growth of park attendance since day one. Perhaps if they could effectively budget the park? They never have done that either.
But the fact remains: disney needs to get more gate - making more of a #1
Park out of AK - to justify the costs. Elephants don't stop eating...you can't close them like epcot pavilions...and that is how it has to fit in the puzzle.
Avatar needs to be a step towards that considering the cost and it will take up an entire decade. This really isnt debatable...
Not the end all...but a solid step at a minimum.
A one and done scenario isn't gonna go well with management.
So perhaps, the quip with Mickey gloves and a wave might be underselling the point...in this case?
Oh, I understand you well. I have been around a long time. But, I don't want the newbies to heed your warnings about all the people that are Disney influenced and "too close" to the situations without them also knowing that you are often times just the opposite. You cannot disagree that you are pessimistic as you could be about any news item. You think that you are the "voice of reason" about it and while I agree with you at times, there are also times you just come off as doing it because it is your MO. It is fine to doubt, but to doubt everything does get monotonous. I believe some, doubt others. But, I may have more times to research before I make my decision.
Well, that will change the answer to the age old question.
You been a stranger around this town, ain't ya been, partner?
Work got much busier. We're short staffed by 9 people so I don't have as much time for The Dis.
The only thing I've heard that makes sense is with all of the Halloween parties and Christmas parties that close the parks early they wanted people to start to leave MK earlier. So move up the parade an hour and people will start to leave after that.