News Round Up 2017

[rteetz]

News

Country Bears are now meeting in Frontierland!

 

[merry_nbright]

News

Country Bears are now meeting in Frontierland!

Seriously?! Where at?! And is this for the long run? I want to meet them when I go in September!

 

[rteetz]

Seriously?! Where at?! And is this for the long run? I want to meet them when I go in September!

I guess they aren't at a set location at this time.

 

[NawlinsGuy80]

Late to the party, but I have done NRJ twice and I'd agree that it will not be a reride situation for most people. That is, it's not worth waiting more than 15 minutes. It is a fast loader, so we'll see how it ends up, but I don't see people normally lining up in 45+ minute standby lines to reride it.

I could say the same thing about Norway Frozen, but it has insane lines all the time. I thought the ride was good, but not one I'd wait over 30 minutes to see again.

 

[mikepizzo]

I could say the same thing about Norway Frozen, but it has insane lines all the time. I thought the ride was good, but not one I'd wait over 30 minutes to see again.

I agree it's not worth the wait; however, the difference there is that children want to see Anna, Elsa, Olaf, etc. It would be interesting to (right now) ask a child, on a scale of 1 - 10, how badly they want to see a Na'vi Shaman.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I agree it's not worth the wait; however, the difference there is that children want to see Anna, Elsa, Olaf, etc. It would be interesting to (right now) ask a child, on a scale of 1 - 10, how badly they want to see a Na'vi Shaman.

But Avatar isn't a children's film to begin with...Frozen was. Even if some children enjoy Avatar and some adults enjoy Frozen they have different target audiences.

However, the thing is Disney is likely trying to appease two crowds-the ones who want more of a thrilling aspect (Fop) in the context of Disney rides not all other amusement/theme parks out there in the world and the ones who want more of a non-thrill ride (NRJ). If they made two rides that were of a more thrilling aspect they would likely alienate a large portion of visitors that go to WDW and if they made two rides that were more of a non-thrill ride then they likely would get backlash for having taken the amount of time they did only to get more non-thrill rides. They were trying to give a balance I'm sure.

 

[rteetz]

News

Springs Street Eats Food Truck Rally Coming to Disney Springs

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Fair point, but likewise your opinion will not be a true representation of what animal kingdom needs either as you are just as much against the laundry as those that root for it too much.

You don't seem to understand me at all...all due respect...so this analysis is a bit off target.

I criticize Disney's management decisions much more so than what's going on in the parks day to day.

But I can separate that stance from what works and what doesn't.

The NFL is a success/works...but it's not a well done project...it doesn't really add anything unique/memorable and that is a failure in management and execution or ulterior motives.

But it has drawn people and developed a following...so it works from an operational standpoint. However the ends do not justify the means.

What is the history of AK?

Let's go over it:
"Forced" by Eisner against the wishes of many upper managers and board members for many valid reasons...notably maintenance costs and difficulty selling animals across all demographics...

Built, but shortened and opened prematurely in a silly PR stunt with the lesser competition, so opened as a half park (a late Eisner signature move...he only built one full park)...

So that was apparent in 99-2002 and beyond when internal tracking (this is where not all takes are the same) showed that is suffered from multiple problems - including the theme and lack of enough attractions/interest due to many factors to drive a following...bad park design, lack of IP identity, bad word of mouth...etc.

So it fell behind the completely disheveled (honeslty) mgm as park 4 outta 4...and at the ridiculous high operational cost that is hard to swallow and sustain...

It's not all AK's fault...a huge problem is lack of middle class discretionary funds and no vacation to be had...but that is the main problem.

Immersive theming hasnt driven the growth of park attendance since day one. Perhaps if they could effectively budget the park? They never have done that either.

But the fact remains: disney needs to get more gate - making more of a #1
Park out of AK - to justify the costs. Elephants don't stop eating...you can't close them like epcot pavilions...and that is how it has to fit in the puzzle.

Avatar needs to be a step towards that considering the cost and it will take up an entire decade. This really isnt debatable...

Not the end all...but a solid step at a minimum.

A one and done scenario isn't gonna go well with management.

So perhaps, the quip with Mickey gloves and a wave might be underselling the point...in this case?

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

But Avatar isn't a children's film to begin with...Frozen was. Even if some children enjoy Avatar and some adults enjoy Frozen they have different target audiences.

However, the thing is Disney is likely trying to appease two crowds-the ones who want more of a thrilling aspect (Fop) in the context of Disney rides not all other amusement/theme parks out there in the world and the ones who want more of a non-thrill ride (NRJ). If they made two rides that were of a more thrilling aspect they would likely alienate a large portion of visitors that go to WDW and if they made two rides that were more of a non-thrill ride then they likely would get backlash for having taken the amount of time they did only to get more non-thrill rides. They were trying to give a balance I'm sure.

I agree with you 100%!

 

[rteetz]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

 

[jlundeen]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

That's a big change....it's always been at 3:00 hasn't it?

Do you know of this is just for summer, or is it permanent?

 

[rteetz]

That's a big change....it's always been at 3:00 hasn't it?

Do you know of this is just for summer, or is it permanent?

Well it starts at the end of August so definitely not just something for summer. No idea why yet.

 

[Indybill]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

Any idea why? Also, is this a permanent move or if not, any idea when goes back to 3?

 

[circus4u]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

Dang, now what am I going to do with my "What Time is the 3 O'clock Parade" T-shirt?

 

[rteetz]

Any idea why? Also, is this a permanent move or if not, any idea when goes back to 3?

Not yet. It's permanent for now. I don't know if it will change back.

 

[Reddog1134]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

Well, that will change the answer to the age old question.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

News

Starting in August the 3:00PM parade is moving to 2:00PM at Magic Kingdom.

Interesting. Maybe a 2nd showing of FoFP? Or adding extra time for a possible nighttime parade rumor?

 

[rteetz]

Interesting. Maybe a 2nd showing of FoFP? Or adding extra time for a possible nighttime parade rumor?

I don't understand why they would need extra time tho.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

I don't understand why they would need extra time tho.

If they use the same performers, they would need a break and then possibly change makeup. Also, they could expect people sitting rather early, so maybe get the first parade over so they can prepare the area for the 2nd parade or future nighttime parade.

 

[rteetz]

If they use the same performers, they would need a break and then possibly change makeup. Also, they could expect people sitting rather early, so maybe get the first parade over so they can prepare the area for the 2nd parade or future nighttime parade.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Disney ran a 3PM parade and nighttime parade for many years.