New "term" for pre-teen girls I heard yesterday...

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by JerseyJanice
I applaud what appears to be the beginning of talent for spin-doctoring in you, DisneyChrista.

Please by all means post where I twisted anyone's words?

 

[palmtreegirl]

Originally posted by HaleyB
I don't have time right now to read all 7 pages of this thread, but feel the need to reply.
Only I don't know what to say.
A part of me wants to scream at the parents that let their kids dress like trash.
A part of me remembers how much fitting in means to a 15 year old.

I know of horrible people that dress very well.
I know of wonderful intellegent people that live on the streets.
I don't care what kind of underwear someone has on,
but I don't want to see it either. Not to the point that I would support anti-undie laws.
I guess what I want to say is, I hope I never jump to conclusions about anyone based on the way they appear. Or think that someone was "asking for it" based on the way they dress, whatever "asking for it" might mean. Or judge another parent with out knowing the whole story. I guess I hope that what matters to me is how a person acts, not what they wear. And one more thing, I hope I remember this when my daughter is a teen- because I only have a male teen right now and I am in dread and fear of facing the female kind.

:thewave:

 

[JerseyJanice]

Originally posted by disneychrista
OMG! I never new that "a nice pair of khakis and a regular t-shirt " was unacceptable, better tell the private school around here that they better change their dress codes.

This is the twisting of words I was referring to, Christa.

I don't think the poster of those words meant to imply what you are saying here.

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by izzy
The use of a little punctuation would go a long way to helping us at least be able read your argument. As you have it written right now, I can't even tell what you are trying to say. Then again, as long as you look good and know the "right" people, I guess grammar skills aren't needed in life either.

Exactly my thoughts!

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by Tea Please
What does that have to do with anything? Most kids I know start at Macy's and McDonalds. Where would you suggest they start summer jobs? Smith Barney, Goldman Sachs? I just do not understand your logic. If for one minute you think all the people working hard flipping burgers or pushing perfume (your words, not mine) are thong wearing ****teases, the you lady are mistaken. Your attitude is both pompous and pontificating.

And by the way, not all the smart alec little punks that wear thongs are ****teases nor do they all put out (again, your words) I would even venture to guess that there are some smart alec little punks that wear bloomers. And that there are very prim and proper little girls in Mary Janes that do put out.

I was speaking to the other poster that said looks are everything and he wanted to make sure his DD got a GOOD job. He gave an example of working as a sales clerk. Of course kids can start at a job like that but he was talking about it as a career. What a great career that would be.

 

[Blondie]

I'm going to the kitchen for a snack, anyone want anything while I'm in there?

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by Blondie
I'm going to the kitchen for a snack, anyone want anything while I'm in there?

Popcorn! LOL!

 

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by JerseyJanice
This is the twisting of words I was referring to, Christa.

Well this is what they said
As I said you can tell who is wearing a thong and it doesn't matter what kind of pants they have on. A 12 or 13 or even 14 y/o should not be wearing a thong! If people didn't dress their young girls like tramps then there wouldn't be any problems. Sorry but dressing like that is an open invitation.

And it was in response to this comment

Maybe we should talk about the boys who are taking bets on whether or not a girl is wearing a thong.

By your scenerio, she could be wearing a nice pair of khakis and a regular t-shirt with a thong and the boys would be taking bets.

Smart alec little punks.

So if they are responding to a comment about someone wearing khakis and a T-shirt with a comment about the wearer being a tramp and asking for it, what other conclusion should I draw from their comment?? oh and by the way my comment was meant to be funny. Because personally I can not see how the underwear a person wears really matters all that much (to anyone but the wearer), as long as I don't have to see it.

Also, if you can see the underwear if it is granny panties, bikini or thongs, what difference does it make thong vs other type really matter if that underwear makes the wearer feel better?

 

[crazyme5kids]

Skiwee1, why is a career at McDonald's or as a sales clerk so bad?I'm just curious, what line of work are you in?

 

[LadyAurora]

Originally posted by kidzmom3
Do you call adult women prostitutes just because they dress sexy?

I haven't read the whole thread, just up to this post, but I have to answer this with "yes."

Maybe not "prostitute" specifically, but there are a lot of women out there who have put their heads together with girlfriends to snicker over another woman and her manner of dressing. Trashy, trollop, etc. are the words that come to mind. Women often insult other women who dress provocatively or inappropriately...
And inappropriate is the word for children dressing provocatively.

 

[Banzai]

I thought it was funny But then again, I think that that the Bratz dolls look like hookers too.

 

[Banzai]

Originally posted by skiwee1
Only the kids around here that can't get a decent job end up pushing perfume at Macys or flipping burgers at McDonalds.

I just wanted to say I like my job thank you very much! I have made so many friends at McDonald's, including my last two girl friends. McDonald's is a decent job for a hs student!

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by crazyme5kids
Skiwee1, why is a career at McDonald's or as a sales clerk so bad?I'm just curious, what line of work are you in?

I own my own engineering firm. I don't think those jobs I listed are not bad for a student but I do not think they are good career choices. Do you? Do you really want to work at a McDonald's all your life? How about a perfume pusher at Macy's?

 

[gymnasticsmom68]

My daughter is only 7 and we take her shopping and she picks out her clothes.

I'm sure she's thrilled that she has 'friends' instead of parents.

As for getting jobs in the world today itr isn't about what you know it is about who you know and in alot of cases how good you look.

Hmm, I wonder how it looks for a Father to have his daughter dressing so innapropriately? I wonder if bosses look at that type of thing, especially if the child wearing the belly shirts is only 7?

Can you point out many sales floors that have unatractive looking sales people I can't

What's your point? You're striving for you and your children to be sales people? Woohoo, big futures there.

I just took a job working for a bank here in London well I will be once my knee is better and I have my operation. Do I know how to do the job yes did I feel I was as qualified as the next person no but you know what I have an in my BIL works there and that is how I got in

So, in reality, it had NOTHING to do with your looks, your BIL got you the job, lucky you have him in your corner, but then again, he must be dressed well.

So dress how you want and say what you want it is after all our right to.

That's right, it's my right to say I think 12 year old's dressing sleazy, look sleazy. It's your right to let your child tell you what she's going to do.

as for my daughter she has alot of flared pants and some low rise pants and some belly shirts etc so what she likes them

Again, read my first response. I'm sure you won't be winning any Father of the Year awards anytime soon.

Oh and just because a girl dresses that way doesn't mean she puts out I know alot of women and girls because of my daughters friends that come over that are the sweetes people and kids don't judge a book by it's cover.

I don't even know what the heck you're trying to say here.


I'll end this saying that I don't believe a word you wrote.

ETA a little punctuation goes a long way. I hope writing isn't one of your strong points, but then again maybe you can put on a belly shirt and get a job at the mall.

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by DSNY FN
I just took a job working for a bank here in London well I will be once my knee is better and I have my operation.

I can not imagine any Bank in the USA "hiring" someone who can't start working until after an operation and recovery!

Do I know how to do the job yes did I feel I was as qualified as the next person

no

but you know what I have an in my BIL works there and that is how I got in some people may not like it or agree but it really is how things go on in the world.


OK...so you will get this "bank" job after the operation, but only because you have an "IN"-which is your BIL works there?

 

[Geoff_M]

I thought it was funny But then again, I think that that the Bratz dolls look like hookers too.

The OP's term works for me. I hear you on the "Bratz" dolls... or as I've heard them referred as "Crack (insert not so nice word for prostitute)" dolls.

 

[kild]

"My daughter is only 7 and we take her shopping and she picks out her clothes."

Is this where the "I can't control my 14yr old" people come from?

The only choice I had at 7 was which side of my mouth to start brushing my teeth.

 

[crazyme5kids]

Skiwee1, I don't work at McDonald's or "push perfume" nor am I an engineer, but I know people that work in all those fields and some of them love their career choices, some of them hate their career choices (including an engineer).
What I think is that if you are happy at a job, if you enjoy what you are doing, yes it is a good career choice.

 

[DSNY FN]

Actually I was offered the job before I hurt my knee. So in being fair to them I ased if it would be ok to start after the operation and rehab. This way they didn't spen time training me etc so that I could then be off in a month or 2 for another 4 or more months. They actualy liked the fact I was trying to save them the hassle of putting me in a position and then having me leave it for x number of months. My 7 year old is a great kid if you ever met her you would see it. She does have a bit of a temper but nothing a bit of time in her room and losing some play time stuff doesn't cure. As for my punctuation I really could care less about it on here this is not a formal proposal to a client etc so I really don't care about it. As for the job I have to think that having my BIL working there did help me get the position and I can say that I am glad he does work there and if it helped me get in then great if it wasn't him they wouldn't tell me and yes I did ask then they must have felt I was a better fit for the position. Yes we have a firendship with our 7 year old and what is wrong with being a parent and being a friend she has some guidelines in tho clothes she can pick They can't hang to the floor so as to be ruined by dragging behind her shoes etc that turns out to be a waste of money when they wear things for a month and the pant leg is all torn up at the back. Most of her clothes come from ROOTS OLD NAVY POLO GAP places like that very tastefull and generally of higher quality not all of it is as I am sure most know. She also wears alot of Disney print shirts and pants that we get her at the Disney store when they have the stuff. As for the comment about striving to work in a sales position Hmmm let me see I know some pretty wealthy sales people so tat doesn't actually work. I know some people that are selling and are maing in the 6 figures a year range tell me where that is bad. My first job when I was 13 was washing dishes in a restaurant I do not know to many people who let a kid 13 get a job as posted in some threads on here but if I wanted to buy my own clothes I had to make themoney to buy them so I did. What I was saying is just because you do not like how the person looks or is dressed doesn't mean you should judge them without talking to them first just like looking at a book or whatever and passing judgement on it by how it looks that is the biggest mistake in society today and I will say this looking good does by no means you can do the job you are hired for if they hire you only because you look good then they may not like what they get. If you have the qulifications to do the job and you look better than the other person it is a step up for you as most places like to have a good looking staff not always the best thing but it does happen all the time.

 

[ScarlettO]

Thanks for the explanation...................now you might want to "mosey on over" to the Debate Board and your post on the Pat Tillman thread. You're in pretty hot water over there,too.