New Magic Kingdom Welcome Show & Main Street Opening UPDATE: Page 15 - Post #281

[AngiTN]

To not spoil .... 5 fur characters (maybe not who you'd expect) and 14 face characters.

Thanks, I'm fine with knowing what happens, just going to hold off watching any videos.

 

[glk2009]

Duplicate post.

 

[ArielSRL]

I'm curious too. My guess is they will be held outside the park, that they can't scan in till 9:00 and there will be no opening show, or an abridged one.

I read in a Facebook group that for this past Friday, the non-resort guests were held at the TTC (maybe until around 8:30 if memory serves). I am wondering if they were practicing for the new opening?

Of course, that was just 1 person's experience and I never read another account that mirrored it so, while I don't think they were untruthful, they may have just been confused or mistaken.

 

[brockash]

I just sent a message to someone that was there for the opening, I hope they can find a definite answer
But remember that any dinning reservation only guarantees you a table for whatever time you reserved and not a placement in front of anyone else, I'm not trying to be combative, just stating the facts. I know that many book the PPO too be in front of the crowds at opening but that's not the purpose of a table service restaurant.
As soon as my friend answers back I will post it here

Yes, I understand what an ADR is and I also understand how they used to work, which is why I'm asking about how it works now, as I'd like to be educated ahead of time if spending money on a PPO ADR is going to put us at a disadvantage as oppose to skipping an ADR and just doing rope drop. Everyone holds value in things differently, while 1 person might find value in just the food and experience at the restaurant in an ADR, others might have only thought it was worth their money for the experience of walking down Main Street without mobs of people and perhaps getting a head start on the parks for the day, and they might find even less value in it if not only those things no longer exist, but if they are now also put behind a mob of people who have been standing in Main Street while they've been eating. Obviously what works for some ppl. is very different than others. Information is key. Hopefully someone will find out soon if PPO ADR's still were able to get into MK before everyone else, or if they were walking down a packed Main Street as well.

 

[AngiTN]

I read in a Facebook group that for this past Friday, the non-resort guests were held at the TTC (maybe until around 8:30 if memory serves). I am wondering if they were practicing for the new opening?

Of course, that was just 1 person's experience and I never read another account that mirrored it so, while I don't think they were untruthful, they may have just been confused or mistaken.

I've heard of that in the past too. I thought that was the norm anyway. Having never stayed off site I honestly don't know how things work

 

[AngiTN]

Yes, I understand what an ADR is and I also understand how they used to work, which is why I'm asking about how it works now, as I'd like to be educated ahead of time if spending money on a PPO ADR is going to put us at a disadvantage as oppose to skipping an ADR and just doing rope drop. Everyone holds value in things differently, while 1 person might find value in just the food and experience at the restaurant in an ADR, others might have only thought it was worth their money for the experience of walking down Main Street without mobs of people and perhaps getting a head start on the parks for the day, and they might find even less value in it if not only those things no longer exist, but if they are now also put behind a mob of people who have been standing in Main Street while they've been eating. Obviously what works for some ppl. is very different than others. Information is key. Hopefully someone will find out soon if PPO ADR's still were able to get into MK before everyone else, or if they were walking down a packed Main Street as well.

I can't see how those coming from CP are going to be in anything other than the group there for Rope Drop. Those past that area, at BOG or CRT won't have the same problem. But there is no way from CP to the rest of the park without the hub, no? Even if you take the walkway towards Adventure Land there will be a rope there. Which will be fine if that's the way you want to head but if you want to head to Fantasy Land or Tomorrow Land you'll face an uphill battle across Main St.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

I'm curious too. My guess is they will be held outside the park, that they can't scan in till 9:00 and there will be no opening show, or an abridged one.

At DL, about 20-30 minutes before the end of EMH, ropes would be raised between Main Street and the hub, instead of between the hub and the lands. EMH late-arrivers would be let through those ropes until non-EMH rope drop time. There, you can prove you're an on-site guest at the rope with your KTTW card. Not sure how that would work without a mobile MB scanner at MK, which I'm assuming may be the case.

 

[AngiTN]

I'm wondering the exact same thing. Are early ADR folks let in any earlier? I have an 8:10 ADR at CP on 2/19. Was really hoping to get a cute picture of my kiddos sitting on the ground facing the castle, wearing their Mickey ears. From what I've been reading on different sites, everyone was let in at the same time.

Hasn't it been reported that PPO folks were going to get in at 7:45?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

So turnstiles open at 8, but the rest of the park is off limits until 9, unless you have a PPO ADR?

exactly

Any word on how it impacts people with pre-park opening ADRs? For example, if you had one today at 8:10, could you get in before 8am? Getting some "empty" Main St pictures was always a motivation for us to schedule the pre-park opening ADRs and wondering if that is still possible

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm curious too. My guess is they will be held outside the park, that they can't scan in till 9:00 and there will be no opening show, or an abridged one.

I'll be keeping a close eye on the updates because when I last went in 2011 we never seemed to make it right at park opening. It was always a little bit later. We were also staying off-site and this September we'll be staying on-site and I really want to make it to EMH.

 

[Missyrose]

So, do we know if the breakfast ppl. were allowed in before the regular crowd at 8am? The early breakfast folks used to be let in before 8am...is that still the case, or are they just letting everyone in at the same time?

Reports on Twitter said PPO breakfast folks were let in at 7:50, just like they always have been. It only gives a 10-minute head start on the rest of the folks, though. I think this greatly affects Crystal Palace people, because even if you are done with breakfast early, you're held with the rest of the folks until the ropes drop at 9. CRT and BOG guests are in the lands themselves already.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

At DL, about 20-30 minutes before the end of EMH, ropes would be raised between Main Street and the hub, instead of between the hub and the lands. EMH late-arrivers would be let through those ropes until non-EMH rope drop time. There, you can prove you're an on-site guest at the rope with your KTTW card. Not sure how that would work without a mobile MB scanner at MK, which I'm assuming may be the case.

Yeah see that's what I was wondering. Will they have a MB scanner? Will they have a way to actually make it to the front of the ropes so you can show the CM you are a resort guest and how will you show them will it be your MB provided you brought it or your resort card if you requested it? Or like AngiTN mentioned stopping the new process of letting guests in MK early all together when there is morning EMH?

 

[HopperFan]

I've heard of that in the past too. I thought that was the norm anyway. Having never stayed off site I honestly don't know how things work

We stay on and off and sometimes as on site guests drive. Because of PPO ADRs the transportation is rolling, just never sure which or I suppose who they let on. One trip only a bus was running. We are usually directed to ferry boat, sometimes to monorail. Once when monorail was closed we did enter the resort monorail line which was open. It seems a roll of the dice each trip.

Was posted on twitter that there is security table/metal detector machines on path from Contemporary today. Couldn't see after but they'd have to have you in queue or rope until next gate or pointless. Could see lots of security like they might have been along line.

I just think entering the MK is going to totally change this year since so many different things are happening/changing. Time will tell.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

Reports on Twitter said PPO breakfast folks were let in at 7:50, just like they always have been. It only gives a 10-minute head start on the rest of the folks, though. I think this greatly affects Crystal Palace people, because even if you are done with breakfast early, you're held with the rest of the folks until the ropes drop at 9. CRT and BOG guests are in the lands themselves already.

Do we have reports yet whether PPO CRT and BOG guests were still allowed into the lands before rope drop his morning? Since PPO CP diners are blocked from the lands now, it would seem more equitable to me for those BOG and CRT diners to be blocked until 9 AM as well. Otherwise, I would expect to see PPO CRT and BOG ADRs become even harder to get.

 

[brockash]

Reports on Twitter said PPO breakfast folks were let in at 7:50, just like they always have been. It only gives a 10-minute head start on the rest of the folks, though. I think this greatly affects Crystal Palace people, because even if you are done with breakfast early, you're held with the rest of the folks until the ropes drop at 9. CRT and BOG guests are in the lands themselves already.

Yes, I think the CP people are really going to end up being at a disadvantage, as they're going to be behind everyone else. I do think that it really won't impact BoG or CRT breakfast folks, as I'm assuming they'll hold them and treat it just as they have with the rope in front of the carousel etc., however they will probably be stuck with having to go through Fantasyland when ropes drop, so if they were wanting to go to a different land, then they'd be at a disadvantage as well (before they would have just been able to walk and roam as they pleased after breakfast, understanding that there were ropes going into each land, but they could go up and down Main St. and go to whichever land rope they pleased.)

 

[glk2009]

We have EMM scheduled with a 7:45 AM entry and I'm hoping we will still have a quick minute to get a crowd-free castle shot. I know it's not a guaranteed part of the package, but it's definitely a nice little bonus.

I'll be keeping an eye on reports for the EMM days.

I do like the idea of being able to leisurely stroll down Main Street without the frantic rush with the masses to get to whichever ride is my target. Now the frantic rush will be a shorter distance!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Was posted on twitter that there is security table/metal detector machines on path from Contemporary today. Couldn't see after but they'd have to have you in queue or rope until next gate or pointless. Could see lots of security like they might have been along line.

user mikepizzo mentioned on the "News Round Up 2017" thread that he read an article today regarding some changes in security including the bags check tables brought further out and that Contemporary had a separate bag check for guests that walked over from there.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Watching the video, it's just not the same as the previous show. All that talking, no catchy song, there is no "excitement" in that show at all. The characters might be great for first time visitors but it lacks the emotion the past show brought.

 

[Atrain13]

So if I have a 905 breakfast ADR for BOG, does this now mean I'm going to miss the opening show?

Kinda sounds like 900 is a horrible time for ADRS. If the park opened at 0800 and we could maybe get a ride in before 9, it wouldn't be bad. But if everything opens at 9, I feel very MEH about it.

 

[AngiTN]

So if I have a 905 breakfast ADR for BOG, does this now mean I'm going to miss the opening show?

Kinda sounds like 900 is a horrible time for ADRS. If the park opened at 0800 and we could maybe get a ride in before 9, it wouldn't be bad. But if everything opens at 9, I feel very MEH about it.

Honestly, it always has been.