My thoughts on touring plans

I agree. I did the whole touring plans thing for our spring break trip in 2013. The first day we ditched it and just did what we wanted and when we wanted to do it. We maximized our fast passes (pre fast pass +). It was great and we did everything we wanted even with it being spring break crowds! Now all the planning is what parks to visit each day, fast passes, and ADR's.
 
I love planning for my Disney trips, but I basically only plan an outline. I plan which park we will tour each day, our "focus area(s)" in that park, our FP+, and our ADR. I build free time into my master schedule, which allows spur of the moment decisions. I want everyone in my family to have the opportunity to do what they want. I think the key to an enjoyable trip is a balance of scheduling and spontaneity.
 
We've found for us, the most stress free way to visit is with a plan- a very detailed plan. We're a group of 5 from 3 households. We get together a few times before the trip, get everyone's must do's as far as attractions and dining and one person is in charge of scheduling to insure those are met. We don't argue over where we're going to eat, what day we're going to what park and it just makes a much more relaxing and stress free vacation once we're there.

That doesn't mean we can't change things up or that we pass by incredible moments because we have a "schedule". It does mean we don't waste time discussing where to go, what to do or where to eat.

We had some incredible spur of the moment magical encounters on our last trip- with the most detailed planning we've ever done. Once doesn't preclude the other for us.

I'm glad your way works for you! Every family is different so what works for one, may not work for the other.
 
We plan park, ADRs, and the FP+--we work with those and have a general plan of what we want to do. I like the planning sites because they are helpful, but have never used one of their plans. Down to the minute potty breaks no thank you, lol.

We are taking my sons GF on her first trip in September and she is just floored with the fact that we have to make ADRs and pick rides at 60 days out.

I love that the OP allowed their children to take the lead--that's awesome and those memories are way better than the ones you try to schedule.
 

lol! Yes a lot of those touring plans get scrapped, but I have found that pouring over those maps ahead of time, planning, tweaking, planning again.... is really a good investment. We never keep a plan, but we do have a basic idea where we want to start and the general direction we will head in. Sounds like a no brainer, but believe me, it sure is better than pouring over that little nap, every individual in the group trying to decide what to do next. Perhaps you did not stick with your plan, but you knew what to do and where to go. That put you light years ahead of those who fdi not plan. We never have a structured "plan", but we have a basic "PLAN. To me there is a difference.
 
I have an exact plan. I even make out index cards. That being said, we rarely use them (besides ADR's and which park we are going to) and just let the day, and our daughter, lead us. I think the reason I plan so much, and I'm sure others will agree, is that it makes the planning more enjoyable and the time leading up to our vacation less agonizing!
 
Glad that worked for your family, but if I followed my kids' leads we would have 4 different touring styles and two miserable parents. I know plenty of families who absolutely hate Disney because they were under the impression they could just show up and have a magical time. Putting in a few hours of planning time or even buying a tour plan pays off exponentially.
 
I like to have "plans" for the first couple hours to get all the must-dos out of the way. After that I have a general idea but we mostly wing it. For us I mostly keep the day flowing.
 
I've NEVER understood touring plans, or why someone would pay for them. We've NEVER gone to rope drop at ANY park (usually arrive around 10am), and we've always rode EVERYTHING. We're only two adults, but we've never had a problem with not going on something unless it was closed. Ever.
 
This gives me hope that I won't be ruining anything by letting go of the reins a bit. I'll be planning Fastpasses with my group (no kids) and have ADRs set up already. Other than that, I just want to keep an eye on shows like parades and shows. I don't want them to get bugged by my planning everything.
 
This gives me hope that I won't be ruining anything by letting go of the reins a bit. I'll be planning Fastpasses with my group (no kids) and have ADRs set up already. Other than that, I just want to keep an eye on shows like parades and shows. I don't want them to get bugged by my planning everything.
First trip or veteran Disney traveler?
 
The only thing I haven't changed in my months of planning is our daily park plan. I gave up some ADRs and dining packages, because I don't want to commit those times. I like the idea of having entire days to just have fun. I arranged our park days according to easywdw and picked 5 restaurants we felt were musts. We have one TS to "play with." I refuse to do pre-park ADRs when hours can change the day before. We will wing the rest. I'll book FP we really, really want and just play the rest by ear. It's very stressful to over plan everything. So many things can go wrong!
 
First trip or veteran Disney traveler?
First trip in about six or seven years but was never the planner and felt we missed a lot. I certainly didn't know there was a Muppets show, for example. My mom just came back from a trip with friends who spontaneously went to MK and she was very disappointed in not seeing the fireworks show and no one knew about fastpasses.
 
I liked making our touring plans. Some of the time was absolutely wasted because we went off plan a lot. But the actual act of making the plan didn't feel like a waste, it sort of got me pumped up for our trip and helped me understand the overall layout of the park. I also liked having a map that had only the attractions we wanted to see on it so I could easily take a look and find the quickest route there. AND liked that it gave you an idea of the least busy times to ride the rides. BUT, on our first disney trip I did make the mistake of really trying to follow the plan. I agree, its much better to be flexible. :)
 
I've never used touring plans but I've looked at some of the plans in the unofficial guide and I always have a tentative plan when I go but I can't imagine following a plan to the letter. This will be the first trip using fp+. I think that planning is part of the fun and if you do the planning and the research, you have more ability to go off the plan when you get there, if that makes sense. My plan this time revolves around FP+ And ADRs with lots of flexibility in between. My "agenda" includes a lot of the slower paced things, like riding the TTA and going to Tom Sawyers Island, wandering around the trails in AK, sitting in the gardens in EPCOT, some things that I haven't done much of on recent trips. And enjoying our meals and wandering around the resorts (we're going before Christmas).
 
First trip in about six or seven years but was never the planner and felt we missed a lot. I certainly didn't know there was a Muppets show, for example. My mom just came back from a trip with friends who spontaneously went to MK and she was very disappointed in not seeing the fireworks show and no one knew about fastpasses.
Yeah - just educating yourself a bit can go a long way. Even if you had a touring plan, I would not recommend that it be a rigid one.

I like the free touring plans over at easywdw.com. He calls them "cheat sheets".

http://www.easywdw.com/category/cheat-sheets/

Most helpful to me, at the back of the plans are charts showing the wait times for the various attractions at different times of the day. It can be helpful to take a look at that just to know which lines build the fastest. Knowledge is really never going to be your enemy. Insisting on sticking to a plan in the face of evidence that it is not working or not enjoyable or not the right thing for your family is where you can go wrong.
 
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I have an exact plan. I even make out index cards. That being said, we rarely use them (besides ADR's and which park we are going to) and just let the day, and our daughter, lead us. I think the reason I plan so much, and I'm sure others will agree, is that it makes the planning more enjoyable and the time leading up to our vacation less agonizing!

Lol yup, I did that too. Printed them out, laminated them. Threw them out after a couple days.

For others,

And I'm not saying don't prepare at all, I said I think it's a good idea to look over maps, see what's where, get an idea of what you want to do. But there are others like me that stressed out over exact touring plans, and really, I think that is a waste - because odds are high that something will detail those plans.

Some rides we thought my son would love he wouldn't go near. Some we rode multiple times that I never imagined we would - but they wanted to. Sometimes they wanted to go in a play area ( they loved the little treehouse at Winnie the Pooh)

We missed lots, for sure, but they had fun with what they did. Maybe someday we'll be able to go back. I'd be surprised, but if we don't - I'm happy. We gave them a magical trip.
 
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I've NEVER understood touring plans, or why someone would pay for them. We've NEVER gone to rope drop at ANY park (usually arrive around 10am), and we've always rode EVERYTHING. We're only two adults, but we've never had a problem with not going on something unless it was closed. Ever.

I am glad that works for you, but I rather doubt you need to navigate character M&G, especially Anna and Elsa, slow boarding kids attractions, and a multitude of feedback from the 8 people in your party. TOuring plans are helpful for many, not because you are fored to follow them, but because they help you to strategize the day, the direction and themust do attractions.

WE seldom use a formal touin plan, in fact I only made one oncce, and tossed the thing out as soon as we arrived. The actual plannig was beneficial though, because I took time to look at wait times for certain attractions, and what time of day those times increased. Now I know that theall get longet as the day goes on, byt by checking them out, I ws able to have a priority.

I pay the fee for touring plans, I like the additional information they provide and use most of it as a tool for planning my park days and ADR's 180 days out
 
And I'm not saying don't prepare at all, I said I think it's a good idea to look over maps, see what's where, get an idea of what you want to do. But there are others like me that stressed out over exact touring plans, and really, I think that is a waste - because odds are high that something will detail those plans.

I interpreted your original post as intending to be helpful to those who, as you said, make take away from these boards that they can't have a successful visit in the summer without a touring plan. I agree that as you found that advice is not actually one-size-fits-all.

However, I disagree with the implication you make here that if you are not going to follow a touring plan then looking over maps, reading ride descriptions, and getting an idea of what you want to do gives you the same information. One very important thing that the first time (or as good as) visitor gets from the exercise of making a touring plan and no other way is to know roughly how long it will take to do the stuff that you want to do. Many first-timers do not have a good alignment between what they think they will get done and what they can actually get done in the parks, and fixing that before arrival day can help avoid some major letdown.

I know you write that you threw your plans out after a couple of days, but I'm pretty sure that you didn't forget everything you learned about which rides build lines fast, and that you drew on that knowledge when making decisions about what to do next even after your plans were left at home and you were flying free. It's likely you also didn't forget what you knew about how long various attractions take, and were able to leverage that when making decisions, knowing that choosing to do X meant you would probably not have enough time for Y later. PPs in this same thread have said much the same thing.

Even though many will be perfectly fine without it, I think advice to first time visitors to consider making some touring plans no matter what time of year they are going is sound. Making touring plans is, IMO, the immersion method of learning WDW "language". Continuing the analogy, what is unfortunate is that you were inaccurately made to feel that you wouldn't be able to get around or make yourself understood by natives unless you had learned enough that your verb tenses, conjugations, pronouns, comparatives, and possessives were perfect, and this caused you a lot of unnecessary stress. I can't speak for you, of course, but I think the waste was not the time you spent making touring plans, but that you "stressed out over exact touring plans" because the advice you were given wasn't placed in the proper context.
 
The extent of my planning is making 3 FP per day and a few ADR's for the trip. We like to be flexible, so I plan what park we will be in each day and where we will hop, but don't plan every minute out.

This is our family as well! We know the parks well enough (we grew up in FL, lived there until our late 20's) so we keep up on whats happening (closures and such) to be able to go with the flow when we are there.
 


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