Motorhome in pieces, hoping to leave for the Fort on the 29th. Wish me luck.

fugarwe

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So last August 2 rear axle to leaf sring U bolts were discovered broken, one on each side. Discovery happened because I bumped a curb and the rear axle slid back and hit the frame in the wheel well. In Chadron State Park, Nebraska.

I scraped to a stop in the stable parking lot. Lots of phone calls later, and the next morning a real nice guy from Hill's Tire in Chadron stopped out with the farm service truck. While the kids went swimming and horse riding and activity doing (Nebraska State Parks are really amazing), we laid under the RV, jacked up the frame, and re-aligned everything. It appeared that the two U bolts had been broken for some time. They were rusty where they had broken. It also looked like the rear axle had been mis-aligned because of the break for some time.

New U bolts were not available locally, but were available in Rapid City, SD, our next stop. Called my Dad the mechanical engineer and he suggested chains and bolts to replace the broken ones to get us up there. My man from Hills agreed this was a good idea so off to the farm store we went. Where I found RV antifreeze on sale for a buck a gallon!

Back to the RV and we put it all together. I comforted myself in the fact that even without the chains, after re-alignment it was exactly how I had driven it for probably 5 thousand miles. The chains were a added bonus.

Big hint here folks, get under the RV and do a roll around on a creeper when you return from trips. (If you do it before a trip, you won't have time to fix anything!)

While under there diagnosing, I found the black water tank was half unbolted, and a few other things that really needed attention.

So we went to Rapid and got the parts and enjoyed camping at the Hart Ranch while there. The chains held and didn't move, so I opted to leave them on till we got back to MN. Then there were big floods in MN and various other disasters, so I didn't get a spot cleared in the shed and start working on the RV till after Christmas. Then I hurt my back which put me another week behind.

So for the last several days I've been fighting with jacking the RV up, removing the chains, re-aligning the axle (which let loose when I jacked it up and removed the chains), and putting it all back together. I've been on a parts search for the rubber bushing for the sway bar, and for the top plate on the leaf spring that keeps the u-bolts properly aligned on the top of the spring. Found the bushing reasonably priced locally, but nobody including junkyards has the metal plate. So today's project is to go out and make one. Still turning over design ideas in my head.

Also found the front tire had become VERY worn apparently from the mis-alignment, but the outside of it looked like new, so never noticed it until crawling underneath up there. So that started a hunt for a used 19.5 tire. Found one that had been a spare for an RV on a rim for 75 bucks and that included balencing. Local junkyard has four re-treads that are brand new jobs. Guy sold it to them after the wife got the RV in the divorce. They have the receipts. Original cost for the re-treads were 146 bucks. They will sell me them for 100 each. Still thinking about whether to stock up on those since apparently good used ones are hard to find. New are about 250 before mounting and balancing!

When this part of the job gets done I have to pull the power steering pully. one of the bolts holding the pump to the bracket went awol. I can hardly wait for that part of the job.

And there's no heat in the shed, so it's 14 degrees outside. And that's going to seem warm in the next few days.

Wish me luck.
 
Wow!! I'd say you had the RV Angels with you on your trip!!

Be careful when you jack up the RV. A local truck/RV mechanic was killed here last fall when the jack slipped and the MH crushed him. This guy was 28 years in the business and was using a lift jack just to take a peek at something.

Safety first!! Stay warm & good luck with the repairs.
 
Sounds like you are having our kind of RV adventure:eek:
Trans went out in TN on the way back:sad2:
Lost 5 wheel studs on right rear in FL:sad2:
Blew tire last year in Atlanta we all know how that one turned out:sad2:
But it's all good no one got hurt and the MH was fixted and rolling again:littleangel:
 
Speaking from someone who almost had their RV burn to the ground at Thanksgiving, I am glad the angels were looking down upon someone other than me. I have certainly used my blessings quota. Good luck and I hope things turn out smoothly.
 

Thanks for the good wishes! I've got a phobia against getting smushed, so I block it eight ways till Sunday. Pain in the butt.

Dad stopped over tonight to play scrabble with the princesses, and he offered to make me the piece I need. Pick it up tomorrow night.

And the RV Angels have smiled on me in several instances. The place the RV broke in Chadron was the one spot in the whole park that cell phones work. The employees at the stable told me that. I was unable to move the RV without fixing it first, and I had scraped to a spot that was level and out of the way of people in the lot. I had JUST enough extension cords to reach the outlets on the outside of the stable building. The park super told me I could camp there no problem. It was between the pool and the stables, way closer to the two things we were there for than the regular campsites (which were cheap). They had bathrooms at the stable they left open just for us, and the girls spent a bunch of time with the horses at night and in the morning. Trail rides were 15 bucks for an hour ride, through some beautiful canyons in the back of the park. We had our mini-van on my car trailer behind the RV, so we unloaded that for going to town for dinner and supplies.

Here is where it came to rest:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?a...973033923&set=a.446239993923.243424.751848923

Jeff from Hill's spend 9 full hours with us and only charged us 400 bucks. He told me the usual hourly price and gave me a healthy discount because I "helped". I took that as a compliment.

Middle DD headed out on her 2ND trail ride:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?f...923.243424.751848923&pid=5307120&id=751848923
 
Well I finally got the rear axle all assembled and it looks pretty good. Pictures are in my phone, I'll try to get them on here for those that care.

I'm looking for opinions on the retreads. I've kind of decided that I should replace two of the rear tires, but have never had retreads.

In the morning I am going to start on the power steering and alternator. Replacing belts, pulling the pulley and replacing a bolt that came out of the power steering, and possibly replacing the alternator if I have time.

Got a quote from the guy I bought the single tire from to install the front air ride in the coil springs for 85 bucks. There is no way I could get those in there in this cold weather, so I'm going to have them do that.

Speaking of weather, it's going to be 15 above 0 for a high tomorrow during the day 17 below tomorrow night. Did I mention there is no heat in the shed?
 
I'm looking for opinions on the retreads. I've kind of decided that I should replace two of the rear tires, but have never had retreads.

Have you never noticed all the tire litter on interstates? Here in Florida, we call them "Gators". Those are from 18-wheelers that use retread tires. Tires get hot when driven on at high speed for more than say....15 minutes. The heat causes retread tires to de-laminate. On a big rig, it's usually not a problem because they're running on so many tires. On a MH, it can cost you your life. Just don't do it!
 
I agree with Deb about the road gators:eek:
I would stay away from retreads remember you are talking about your family's lives. You also mentioned front tire as I am not sure if retreads can be used on steer tires legaly I know truck drivers won't use them. Someone correct me on this if I am wrong.
 
I hear ya on the road gators. I'm the guy who ends up pulling them off the four lane at work all the time. I wasn't going to use them for steer tires.

We've had one of the rear duals break the bead (couldn't find any other damage) and only noticed at the gas stop as it was on the outside.

I'm not sure how much longer we will own this motorhome. We really need another bed. This spring I'm looking at one in northern MN that may fit the bill.

Any other opinions out there on re-treads?
 
As much as I hate to say it your best bet is to bite the bullet and go for new tires.
In my years as an RV tech I have seen the damage a blown tire can do to an RV and also with our experience last year I know first hand what a bad tire can do to your vacation.
 
As much as I hate to say it your best bet is to bite the bullet and go for new tires.
In my years as an RV tech I have seen the damage a blown tire can do to an RV and also with our experience last year I know first hand what a bad tire can do to your vacation.

I looked at the original thread. Were those retreads on your rig? I'm going to be carrying two spares with me too. Still shopping for alternatives to the re-treads.
 
No they weren't retreats. Just 7 year old tires with less than 10k miles on them
 
The assumption being that whatever got the trailer tire got the drive wheels too?

I don't know why they would make gas tanks out of plastic if they are exposed to road hazards. The previous owner of my RV hit a 2 x 4 on the interstate and poked a hole in the black water tank. You could have just as easily hit a chunk of metal that got the tank.

When we lost the bead on the outside rear dual we couldn't figure out why. The rim looked a bit rusty so we found a farm tire store in southern IA and had them clean it and re-seat the bead. There were two tires of the same vintage on the rig so I had them pull off the other one and clean that one up too, but it was fine. Weird. Those are the two tires I'm looking at replacing now as they are getting right down to the end of their life. I found one other tire for sale I have to go look at this week before we go. Finding the old 8r 19.5 tires is a real problem. Out here in the sticks everyone has to special order them, even the RV repair places.
 
I inspected the drive tires while the trailer tires were being replaced and didn't see anything but who knows it was pouring down rain when I hit it. Right before it blew the sun came out and we went from very cool temps to what seemed like a blast oven.
As for the plastic gas tank unlike holding tanks it is a very thick plastic and a very odd shape to fit under the MH. After seing the abuse it took from that red hot Flowmaster being jammed into it at 50 mph I am prety well sold on it. Also even with the damage it took it didn't leak a drop of gas until I pried the muffler from under the MH. I don't know if you deal with old cars at all but I have had rust issues with steel tanks and the inside of this 30 year old tank looked like brand new.
 
I deal with old cars alot, cause it's all I own!

Now I'm throwing the sawzall and blades in the trailer too.

Got the alternator off today, and the power steering pulley almost all the way back on. Have to go to work now. If the pulley goes on without a problem, it's all downhill from here!
 
After the broken wheel stud issue a few years ago I'm not allowed to leave home without an axle socket.:thumbsup2
 
After the broken wheel stud issue a few years ago I'm not allowed to leave home without an axle socket.:thumbsup2

I hear ya on that one! Got the power steering bracket back together and the pulley pressed on. Got the new alternator in (just cause I was in there and because the other one was a bit dodgy). Got new serpentine belt in, and spares in the trailer. Put in a new battery too, cause the old one was, well, old. I'll put it in one of the farm trucks.

Old girl fired right up and everything looks good. :cool1:

FINALLY got my trailer back today, and am going to give it the once over tomorrow.

Thursday I take it for the air ride and to get the tires put on the rims. Think I found a decent alternative to the re-treads.
 
Sounds like things are going your way :thumbsup2
Hope you have a safe wonderfull trip.
 
I inspected the drive tires while the trailer tires were being replaced and didn't see anything but who knows it was pouring down rain when I hit it. Right before it blew the sun came out and we went from very cool temps to what seemed like a blast oven.
As for the plastic gas tank unlike holding tanks it is a very thick plastic and a very odd shape to fit under the MH. After seing the abuse it took from that red hot Flowmaster being jammed into it at 50 mph I am prety well sold on it. Also even with the damage it took it didn't leak a drop of gas until I pried the muffler from under the MH. I don't know if you deal with old cars at all but I have had rust issues with steel tanks and the inside of this 30 year old tank looked like brand new.

Yeah, the insides of plastic tanks are a good selling point. And you've seen the downsides. I took a report at a local bar a month or so ago of someone having their plastic gas tank slashed. Slashed like in the old days where someone would slash your tires. In this case the tank was accessable just behind the passenger side read door under the rocker panel. Someone took a good slice with a carpenter's knife. Tank starts leaking out, and it's an expensive repair. That was a new one on me, and particularly cowardly, as all car vandalism is.

Took the RV in to town today and got the air ride replaced on the front. Makes a big difference. While I was there I talked with the owner and ended up with a FREE RV! He's parting out a 1983 Midas on a P30 chassis like mine. The engine was bad and he's sold about everthing he wants to. It'll still have a full set of wheels (bad rubber), the radiator and the rest of the drive train. There are quite a few accessories that will come in handy.

Speaking of radiators, mine started showing a bit of green, so I'll be needing the new one at some point.

After the air ride went over to the alignment place and had two new tires put on, and they checked the alignment. It was fine, meaning I had somehow managed to get the rear axle on correctly aligned. Checked the bolts on the axle while it was on their rack, and everthing underneath is looking good! They didn't charge me for the alignment or the rack use, only the tires and balancing!

Having a break now and reading all the hullabaloo, and then back out for some final mechanical checks and small repairs, then I'm starting to pack the old girl up!

Yesterday I got the trailer lights working better and brighter than ever before, and mapped out the whole system from the back of the RV through the adapters right out to the lights. Also found a set of four rims I can use for trailer spares, and got two really good spare tires. The rims were tricky because it's a 10k trailer and the hubs are really big, so most six bolt rims won't fit without modification. I had a freind with four chrome mag rims off an old 1 ton Chevy 4x4 truck and they fit! He mounted up the rubber on two of them, and wouldn't take any money. I made him take 20 bucks for beer money.

And I've got all day tomorrow yet! Things are looking good!:banana:
 
Sounds like it's all down hill from here :thumbsup2
Right up to the last minute is the way I uausly am also :confused3 the weekend before we leave I am finnishing up on the repairs from last year or the latest upgrades. Got a few planed for this year also just waiting for a little warm weather and to get some of my must doos out of the way.
 














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