Mother forces son to drink hot sauce as punishment

[PaulaSB12]

I agree with EMom! The mother is an abusive nutjob. Thank goodness the state of Alaska is now involved. I pray this little boy will be moved into a home where he will be loved for who he is. I am also cringing for families in the midst of the adoption process.
I have adopted children. One with a RAD dx. Let me just say most of the "specialists" in the RAD field make my skin crawl. There is an army of wackjob savers out there who actually encourage parents to torture their children under the guise of attachment therapy. It's a sad, disturbing, heartbreaking reality. (FTR, it's been many years since I've looked at who is the front runner for RAD treatment. Things could be different now. I hope to God they are!) By the time we settled on play therapy, I went in telling therapists we would not be seeking out any "specialists" in that field. If I ever considered it, they should know to have ME evaluated because I must have lost my freaking mind...
The truth is a RAD child may never be "normal" and no amount of love, therapy (or torture, in this case) will change that. It is what it is. I tell people all the time, therapy helped me more than it did my child. It helped me to really accept the "It is what it is" motto.
That video...
Oh, and if the state of Alaska wants to give me the boy just to get him away from that monster, I'll take him. As would many others, who would never consider that "treatment" for attachment disorder.

With twin boys they need to take both children, how damaging is it going to be to be seperated like that? Will she now turn on the other boy? Two years ago they lost home, language everything that they knew and now to loose each other?

 

[PaulaSB12]

I see her more verbally abusive than physically.

I can see a mouth of hot sauce and a cold shower in a calmer application.

I am quoting emom here
Cold showers? Let me clue you in. The child was adopted at age 5 from a Russian orphange. For those who have not been in a Russian orphanage, let me share that the water can be so freaking cold that your hands start to go numb when you wash them after going to the bathroom. When we adopted DD, she was less than a year old, and very well-adjusted. However, she HATED bathing. Screamed her head off. No duh. When she got showers or had any contact with water, it was likely pretty dang cold. She had negative associations with being in water, to say the least. We had to teach her that bathing could be fun.

So this boy has been in a Russian orphanage for 5 of his 7 years and I'll wager he has very negative memories of cold water. Traumatic even. And what does this sorry excuse for a female do? She puts him in cold water as punishment. She's mean, through and through.

So for this child cold shower brings back extremely negative memories and its going to be more traumatic than some one who doesn't have such negative memories.

 

[Kat77]

With twin boys they need to take both children, how damaging is it going to be to be seperated like that? Will she now turn on the other boy? Two years ago they lost home, language everything that they knew and now to loose each other?

Unfortunately, they may look into her story and decide not to take any of them away. As I mentioned, there is an entire community of specialists supporting this type of behavior as treatment. It's rotten.

 

[CathrynRose]

Double post.....

 

[CathrynRose]

HORRIFYING! Disgusting! I hope this woman spends time in jail. And way to teach your 10 y/o daughter, who is filming, how to parent! Disgusting! All of it!

You know who I now have living in my home for 3 years? A 20 y/o friend of my oldest son. He's been friends with him since 6th grade, so I saw the neglect and verbal (and for all I know physical abuse) this kid went through...... on top of also being a boy whom was adopted from a Russian Orphanage at age 4.


That video pisses me off.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

How can you say the first and then thumbs up FireDancer's quote? Not trying to start a rumble, I'm just curious. Seems your first quote was quite judgmental and partial, and then you thumbs up a quote about neither being wrong. Help me understand

It was a joke.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

It was a joke.

Yeah, Fire Dancer clued me in! I think my radar was down last night! SORRY!

 

[Mermaid02]

I think somebody bigger than her ought to make her drink hot sauce and take a freezing shower as a punishment for the way she treated that child. Witch. And that's not what I wanted to call her.

 

[luvsJack]

I am quoting emom here
Cold showers? Let me clue you in. The child was adopted at age 5 from a Russian orphange. For those who have not been in a Russian orphanage, let me share that the water can be so freaking cold that your hands start to go numb when you wash them after going to the bathroom. When we adopted DD, she was less than a year old, and very well-adjusted. However, she HATED bathing. Screamed her head off. No duh. When she got showers or had any contact with water, it was likely pretty dang cold. She had negative associations with being in water, to say the least. We had to teach her that bathing could be fun.

So this boy has been in a Russian orphanage for 5 of his 7 years and I'll wager he has very negative memories of cold water. Traumatic even. And what does this sorry excuse for a female do? She puts him in cold water as punishment. She's mean, through and through.

So for this child cold shower brings back extremely negative memories and its going to be more traumatic than some one who doesn't have such negative memories.

OMG! That poor baby! I would not have known that about a child from a Russian orphanage but now to know that witch did something to him to bring back those awful memories! I hope they do take both of these children from her.

 

[Mrs. Darcy]

I think somebody bigger than her ought to make her drink hot sauce and take a freezing shower as a punishment for the way she treated that child. Witch. And that's not what I wanted to call her.

omg I SO agree!!!!!!

 

[ccgirl]

Sorry, but that just isn't possible. You are just so emotionally disconnected that you don't recognize your scars. But worry not. I am sure that about 20 years of therapy would straighten you right out.

I have no problem with spanking and I have no problem if you don't want to spank your kids. I just hate seeing one person saying their way is the only way.

I don't care if you use corporal punishment or if you sit them down and sing kumbaya while you talk with them about their feelings. I notice much more of the later telling the former their way is wrong than the other way around though. Neither are wrong, they are just different.

Great post. As others have said, there is a big difference b/w spanking and beating though. I do spank my children. I get MANY compliments from teachers, and other parents, about how well behaved my children are. But, I also hug them, kiss them and tell them I love them. It sounds like the mom in the video doesn't do this and I'm very sad about that.

How can you say the first and then thumbs up FireDancer's quote? Not trying to start a rumble, I'm just curious. Seems your first quote was quite judgmental and partial, and then you thumbs up a quote about neither being wrong. Help me understand

Glad your sensor is back on. As he indicated, it was a sarcastic post.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

Great post. As others have said, there is a big difference b/w spanking and beating though. I do spank my children. I get MANY compliments from teachers, and other parents, about how well behaved my children are. But, I also hug them, kiss them and tell them I love them. It sounds like the mom in the video doesn't do this and I'm very sad about that.


Glad your sensor is back on. As he indicated, it was a sarcastic post.

It's embarrassing! I consider myself a sarcasm connoisseur! Can't believe I missed it!

 

[ccgirl]

It's embarrassing! I consider myself a sarcasm connoisseur! Can't believe I missed it!

We all have our off days.

 

[MMead]

Most current research:

Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
(University of New Hampshire)

Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
(American Academy of Pediatrics)

Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
(Tulane University)

Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
(University of New Hampshire)

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child "spanking" isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
United Methodist Church
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

In 31 nations, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The US also has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

The US states with the highest crime rates and the poorest academic performance are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment.

There is simply no evidence to suggest that child bottom-battering instills virtue.

 

[ccgirl]

Most current research:

Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
(University of New Hampshire)

Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
(American Academy of Pediatrics)

Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
(Tulane University)

Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
(University of New Hampshire)

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child "spanking" isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
United Methodist Church
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

In 31 nations, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The US also has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

The US states with the highest crime rates and the poorest academic performance are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment.

There is simply no evidence to suggest that child bottom-battering instills virtue.

Interesting....I'm sure there are articles to support both sides. I think we would also all agree there is a difference b/w spanking and beating. I spank my DD8. Yet, she is a very loving child. She is extremely intelligent, she scored 95% on the Iowa test for 2nd graders. That means she scored HIGHER than 95% of the ENTIRE COUNTRY all the while being spanked. I think she is just fine intellectually. Her teacher and Principal constantly tell me how she is helping out the other children and how kind she is. Did I mention she goes to church and sings in the school choir. Say it's not so...a child that is spanked is actually well adjusted??? Conversely, my best friend who does not believe in spanking and talks it out with her child scored 50% on the Iowa test and always has recess taken away. Guess what??? I don't judge her parenting techniques.

 

[mhsjax]

Most current research:

Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
(University of New Hampshire)

Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
(American Academy of Pediatrics)

Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
(Tulane University)

Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
(University of New Hampshire)

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child "spanking" isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
United Methodist Church
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

In 31 nations, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The US also has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

The US states with the highest crime rates and the poorest academic performance are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment.

There is simply no evidence to suggest that child bottom-battering instills virtue.

You again. YOu posted on the other thread about kids biting. YOu just drop this little piece of silliness and leave. Why don't you hang around to actually , you know have a conversation.

 

[mhsjax]

Interesting....I'm sure there are articles to support both sides. I think we would also all agree there is a difference b/w spanking and beating. I spank my DD8. Yet, she is a very loving child. She is extremely intelligent, she scored 95% on the Iowa test for 2nd graders. That means she scored HIGHER than 95% of the ENTIRE COUNTRY all the while being spanked. I think she is just fine intellectually. Her teacher and Principal constantly tell me how she is helping out the other children and how kind she is. Did I mention she goes to church and sings in the school choir. Say it's not so...a child that is spanked is actually well adjusted??? Conversely, my best friend who does not believe in spanking and talks it out with her child scored 50% on the Iowa test and always has recess taken away. Guess what??? I don't judge her parenting techniques.

I spanked mine too. They are all above average, not as smart as yours, but above average and in pre AP classes. They don't have AP classes here in middle school. Mine have never even come close to being in trouble at school, have never even hit anyone. Their friends parents and our friends say that they would be glad to take nay of our kids anywhere because they are well behaved. Do they act up and do stupid stuff sometimes. Sure they do. But most is due to the old sibling rivalry. And if someone could find a cure for that, they would be billionaires.

 

[ccgirl]

I spanked mine too. They are all above average, not as smart as yours, but above average and in pre AP classes. They don't have AP classes here in middle school. Mine have never even come close to being in trouble at school, have never even hit anyone. Their friends parents and our friends say that they would be glad to take nay of our kids anywhere because they are well behaved. Do they act up and do stupid stuff sometimes. Sure they do. But most is due to the old sibling rivalry. And if someone could find a cure for that, they would be billionaires.

Well, you must be lying because those articles say so.

 

[FireDancer]

Most current research:

Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
(University of New Hampshire)

Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
(American Academy of Pediatrics)

Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
(Tulane University)

Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
(University of New Hampshire)

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child "spanking" isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
United Methodist Church
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

In 31 nations, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The US also has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

The US states with the highest crime rates and the poorest academic performance are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment.

There is simply no evidence to suggest that child bottom-battering instills virtue.

Well, thanks for illustrating my point that it is usually the anti-spank brigade that tries to push their view on everyone. I'm sure if the people who believed in corporal punishment had nothing better to do then scrape up meaningless research (because for every study that proves 'A' there will be one that refutes 'A') they would post that as well.

 

[mhsjax]

Well, you must be lying because those articles say so.

My mom spanked me for lying, so I just didn't learn. I am also very violent, so you had better watch what you say to me.